VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Machete]

Ohhh, Just tried a bit... So much freedom in interactions, serious game indeed, but not sure I really want to play it now, I already feeling too much stress (that feeling... like a kid in Toy store with all the toys you're dreamed of but must choose only one and not even sure parents Will have enough money to buy chosen one...)
Really surprised there is no Ntr tag in such kind of game...

NTR stands for Netori, which is the category of games where the MC has to see his love interest going with another man as in cuckholding or just missed love opportunity.
It doesnt stant for NoT haRem game

 

[Zerorox]

Ahah, as I said, Just played very little, so it was first impression, and played not long enough to know who is Roger... Just sayin' some Ntr aspects can fit this game if author wanted to add it.
No problems for Me if there Will never be NTR added tbh
And I know, most players will be jealous even if rejected LI Will find other man for herlelf so... not worth for developer in terms of popularity/finance even if counting some additional (not that great amount) ntr fans.

 

[Zerorox]

Well... It all depends on what you mean by NTR... Usually people consider it so when the MC -- and only the MC -- is being cheated and has feelings of jealousy about it (some are more strict and consider it only when there's a man involved and ignore girl-on-girl NTR... and some are more lax and consider NTR any scene where some guy other than MC has sex with a girl, at least when she's a potential love interest...) There's nothing like that in this game, but in the literal sense of the word "netorare" -- cheating --, it happens because (spoiler) there are two scenes where the MC bangs Roger's girlfriend letting him know/watch and humiliating him. I don't know if that's what you're talking about though...

Yeah, in that terms there is no Ntr in this game in my (and most players) opinion.
And when MC fucks someone's girlfriend/wife, there is no bad feeling for player so... no (such a scary for most players) tag mostly. Though maybe technically it is ntr, but I'm not a big fan japanese style VN's and don't know how they manage with tags and what is really correct, and care not tbh)

 

[Geralt_R]

Did someone just bring up Where The Heart Is and the N-word in the same sentence?

faints



Actually, I did feel a bit bad at the party, not because of any NTR tendencies (there are none), but because that revenge plan really escalated rather quickly and can become quite vicious if you go all the way... no one deserves punishment like that. Not for the (not nice) things they did. At least Katie feels some guilt about it later (and the MC kind of too, to a lesser degree maybe).

 

[Ghostload]

Yeah, that's why I decided to just grab Debbie by the pussy and leave the party early.

I don't want to be a part of something that would only be used against me later on.

 

[Skeltom]

there are two scenes where the MC bangs Roger's girlfriend letting him know/watch and humiliating him. I don't know if that's what you're talking about though...

Even if someone did count those scenes they are at least optional unlike most games that may have it. Your not forced to cuck Roger at all even if he probably deserves it.

 

[acewinz]

There are technically two forms of NTR, Netorare and Netori. Rare is the bad one where the MC has love interests stolen, and tori is the one where he is doing the stealing (more often labeled cheating in the tags).

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[Geralt_R]

I am a bit anxious about the official reveal of the gold digger

Do characters meet in a church in the afterlife for the big reveal? Are there mysterious hatches involved? Time travel? No? Then I think you will be mostly fine
Unless Katie, Jenna or Monica are the the gold diggers, then you should all assume new identities and maybe find a lone hut in Antarctica without internet access, but I really don't think it will be like that.

 

[acewinz]

Did someone just bring up Where The Heart Is and the N-word in the same sentence?

faints



Actually, I did feel a bit bad at the party, not because of any NTR tendencies (there are none), but because that revenge plan really escalated rather quickly and can become quite vicious if you go all the way... no one deserves punishment like that. Not for the (not nice) things they did. At least Katie feels some guilt about it later (and the MC kind of too, to a lesser degree maybe).

Haha, Cheeky really did allow the player to really go overboard at the party.

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[felicemastronzo]

There are technically two forms of NTR, Netorare and Netori. Rare is the bad one where the MC has love interests stolen, and tori is the one where he is doing the stealing (more often labeled cheating in the tags).

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now I'm worried....

 

[Skeltom]

Haha, Cheeky really did allow the player to really go overboard at the party.

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Yeah, it can be seen as overboard but also a trap. It's the only way out of that part of the game with dirt on at least one of them. To do that though the only way you can is to sleep with Nat and maybe even have Sammy borderline rape Roger. There is hardly a middle ground it's leave or don't and just go with it.

 

[Machete]

Sammy borderline rape Roger.

Technically i would say that Sammy actually raped Roger or at least molested him.

 

[Skeltom]

Technically i would say that Sammy actually raped Roger or at least molested him.

I think it's closer to molestation. On the same level as sleep sex I guess. He didn't force him into sex he preformed a sexual act without his knowledge. A grey area I know but...

 

[DaimonFey]

I think it's closer to molestation. On the same level as sleep sex I guess. He didn't force him into sex he preformed a sexual act without his knowledge. A grey area I know but...

There is no grey area. Sexual act without consent = rape

 

[Geralt_R]

I think it's closer to molestation.

I think it would easily be classified as rape. It's a non-consensual sexual act. Sleep sex is also rape, rape doesn't necessarily have to include violence or forced entry, it's about consent. Molestation is more like touching, groping, kissing etc. or maybe even verbal abuse.
So yes, all those VNs that feature sleep sex... the MC is a rapist. And if it's "just" touching etc... it's molestation.

Sammy could face time in prison for the prank he pulled, it's rape. The MC... probably not, Nat was a willing participant. But he could be charged with filming revenge porn. That party really can bring out the worst in the MC (and Katie to a certain degree).

 

[Harlaw]

Yeah, that's why I decided to just grab Debbie by the pussy and leave the party early.

I don't want to be a part of something that would only be used against me later on.

The true chad move is to go along with the plan till Natasha is ready to ditch Roger for the MC and then tell her to fuck off anyways. That way not only do you prove that they are terrible people who don't really care for each other, but you also don't end up doing anything immoral or illegal.

Because honestly that whole scene is fucked up, probably the worst thing the MC can do, closely followed by the Elaine guilt path. And I hope, by the end, there are some severe consequences for everyone involved in that mess.

 

[Machete]

Because honestly that whole scene is fucked up, probably the worst thing the MC can do, closely followed by the Elaine guilt path. And I hope, by the end, there are some severe consequences for everyone involved in that mess.

Might be, but it would be very harsh since it happens in the very early stages of the game and the plot kinda implies it's the "best ending" for the party sequence.

Maybe it would just end in a moral scoff or something.

(not sure that the word scoff actually exist, i'm too lazy to check. English is not my first language and sometime i find out i know some english words i didn't know i knew. Like plaster. Why do i know what plaster is?)

 

[Geralt_R]

The true chad move is to go along with the plan till Natasha is ready to ditch Roger for the MC and then tell her to fuck off anyways. That way not only do you prove that they are terrible people who don't really care for each other, but you also don't end up doing anything immoral or illegal.

And the "Neo - The Chosen One" move is to retroactively change the Matrix by altering a variable when you find out your past is going to haunt you when Nat tries to blackmail you... I know I am horrible! But I want to have my cake and eat it too! Please devs, forgive me!

Might be, but it would be very harsh since it happens in the very early stages of the game and the plot kinda implies it's the "best ending" for the party sequence.

At that time I didn't spoil myself using a walkthrough or so and yes, to me it looked as if successfully pranking Nat is a prerequisite to winning over Katie's heart... so I went through with most of it (but not all). Even though I felt terrible about it. In hindsight I would draw a line in the sand before things escalate too much.

 

[Skeltom]

The true chad move is to go along with the plan till Natasha is ready to ditch Roger for the MC and then tell her to fuck off anyways. That way not only do you prove that they are terrible people who don't really care for each other, but you also don't end up doing anything immoral or illegal.

Because honestly that whole scene is fucked up, probably the worst thing the MC can do, closely followed by the Elaine guilt path. And I hope, by the end, there are some severe consequences for everyone involved in that mess.

My biggest problem is that the only conceivable way for any of the plan to work is to have one or more people sleeping together consensually or otherwise. There was no other way to do it I guess. And so far the only one paying their dues is the MC. Not Katie or Sammy or anyone else really.

 

[Machete]

My biggest problem is that the only conceivable way for any of the plan to work is to have one or more people sleeping together consensually or otherwise. There was no other way to do it I guess. And so far the only one paying their dues is the MC. Not Katie or Sammy or anyone else really.

Technically the girls, MC and Sammy are all accountable for the events of the night. I don't know how the fellony is called in english, when someone talks someone else into committing a crime.

The scenario would be:

MC - Revenge porn, talking Sammy into rape.
Sammy - Rape
Nat - 'Talking mc into revenge porn'.
Debbie and Lily - 'Partecipating in a criminal activity'

Sorry for the lack of correct technical terms.