VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[acewinz]

acewinz I know I've asked you a semblance of this question before, about all the variables and paths you can go on and how crazy that code must look; however, now that it has been a few years removed, and you guys are coming to probably tons of conclusions, how does that code look now? How do you guys keep track of everything?
Anyway, you handsome-dudes keep up the good work.

It is actually better the closer we get to the end as far as the variables go. Yeah the options are still a lot, but they are becoming more modular (so less interactivity between the paths now that they are pretty well established and we are set on how things can end up depending on the path). I think at one point we were tracking upwards of 250 active variables on our spreadsheet and god knows how many paths, but now we are down to 150ish or so variables and the paths are more well defined at this point.

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[lordofhirunds]

I believe that letting Bella go to a mothel and as promised help Jolina with her business and give the house to Elaine say goodbye to Monica to Jenna and Kate serves little purpose and that if instead a pact is made with Bella by convincing Elaine to be part of the deal( no house, stay with M J K and with that(IT'S NOT A SPOIL) allow Bella to take possession of the inheritance and split it into three ways with her and Elaine and live happily with Monica Jenna and Kate and why not also with Elaine and from time to time a visit to JO would be the optimal solution but I think Cheeky and ACE have planned more than that, too bad
Have i got it all wrong?

 

[Avaron1974]

I believe that letting Bella go to a mothel and as promised help Jolina with her business and give the house to Elaine say goodbye to Monica to Jenna and Kate serves little purpose and that if instead a pact is made with Bella by convincing Elaine to be part of the deal( no house, stay with M J K and with that(IT'S NOT A SPOIL) allow Bella to take possession of the inheritance and split it into three ways with her and Elaine and live happily with Monica Jenna and Kate and why not also with Elaine and from time to time a visit to JO would be the optimal solution but I think Cheeky and ACE have planned more than that, too bad
Have i got it all wrong?

Haven't said it for a while so may as well now.

Your theory suggests a harem, there is no harem here.

At most you'll get the three friends, you certainly won't ever get Monica, Katie and Jenna that isn't on the cards at all. Even if they did do Jenna and Katie as more than the fan service it was, Monica would never go for it and would probably remove his testicles and mount them on the wall if he even hinted at it.

What's more likely to happen is something similar to Becoming a Rockstar. As they find out who you are sleeping with they will probably break things off.

 

[Harlaw]

I believe that letting Bella go to a mothel and as promised help Jolina with her business and give the house to Elaine say goodbye to Monica to Jenna and Kate serves little purpose and that if instead a pact is made with Bella by convincing Elaine to be part of the deal( no house, stay with M J K and with that(IT'S NOT A SPOIL) allow Bella to take possession of the inheritance and split it into three ways with her and Elaine and live happily with Monica Jenna and Kate and why not also with Elaine and from time to time a visit to JO would be the optimal solution but I think Cheeky and ACE have planned more than that, too bad
Have i got it all wrong?

Let me see if I got this right, you want to kick Bella out in the rain, void yours and Elaine's share, making sure that Bella (assuming both that she is indeed the GD and she completes her condition) gets the whole shebang and then expect her to split HER money 3 ways? Why would she do that, why would she do any of that?

As for any Harem implications, the devs have been on record more than once unequivocally stating that there will be no harem, it wouldn't even make any sense with the story progression up to this point. The best you're gonna get is poly relationships/throuples. Debbie+Lily and Angel+Wanda being the most likely ones, but I am sure there are a few other possibilities as well.

 

[masterdc1976]

no harem its ok, leave some of them but at least 5 to 9?

the 2 sister is a must, one is 100% loyal , and the other has a temper put she's getting there
Debbie -> cant leave the lesbian hanging
Lily -> would be a bit bad to leave her behind, butt after she was jealous of the circus girl, I would understand
Angel -> she's has made an effort, and has suffered enough, she deserves an Owner
Jolina -> she deserves an Owner , it would be cruel to not keep the bitch

Bella -> I am inclined to keep her
the crazy one that was bulling the older sister -> does not deserve as much as Wanda , but close, is she is willing to share
the black girl is she's willing to share

not too much

 

[DaimonFey]

Let me see if I got this right, you want to kick Bella out in the rain, void yours and Elaine's share, making sure that Bella (assuming both that she is indeed the GD and she completes her condition) gets the whole shebang and then expect her to split HER money 3 ways? Why would she do that, why would she do any of that?

As for any Harem implications, the devs have been on record more than once unequivocally stating that there will be no harem, it wouldn't even make any sense with the story progression up to this point. The best you're gonna get is poly relationships/throuples. Debbie+Lily and Angel+Wanda being the most likely ones, but I am sure there are a few other possibilities as well.

I agree. Giving Bella everything would be dumbest thing ever. How can anybody trust her when she stabbed her sister in the back multiple times? Also why would Elaine would want anything to do with Bella if she really is Dizzy? Only thing that Elaine would want from Bella is suffering and death wich is tottaly understandible if you ask me. Lawyer mentioned that Bella(he never mentioned her name) is very cold and calculating person so its ulikely that she would split everything. Best way would be giving Elaine everything and trust her to split everything between her and MC because in my opinion she is trustworthy. It will be difficoult given that we don't know Bella's requirements but perhaps our decissions will infuence that.

As for harem I agree for the most part but I think that Katie/Debbie/Lily, Jenna/Katie or Monica/Zarah are rather possible.

 

[Avaron1974]

Jenna/Katie

Was likely fanservice. I very highly doubt that will ever go anywhere. Dev has said they are avoiding anything that could be seen as incest or connected to.

 

[Harlaw]

no harem its ok, leave some of them but at least 5 to 9?

the 2 sister is a must, one is 100% loyal , and the other has a temper put she's getting there
Debbie -> cant leave the lesbian hanging
Lily -> would be a bit bad to leave her behind, butt after she was jealous of the circus girl, I would understand
Angel -> she's has made an effort, and has suffered enough, she deserves an Owner
Wanda -> she deserves an Owner , it would be cruel to not keep the bitch

Bella -> I am inclined to keep her
the crazy one that was bulling the older sister -> does not deserve as much as Wanda , but close, is she is willing to share
the black girl is she's willing to share

not too much

Don't know how to tell you this mate, but it's not one of those 'gotta catch'em all' type of game. The women in this game also have their own wants, they are not just there to be 'owned' by you.

 

[albul]

Was likely fanservice. I very highly doubt that will ever go anywhere. Dev has said they are avoiding anything that could be seen as incest or connected to.

I'm not advocating for that throuple, but the two sisters don't need to be involved with each other, so that will avoid any incest accusations.

 

[armion82]

no harem its ok, leave some of them but at least 5 to 9?

the 2 sister is a must, one is 100% loyal , and the other has a temper put she's getting there
Debbie -> cant leave the lesbian hanging
Lily -> would be a bit bad to leave her behind, butt after she was jealous of the circus girl, I would understand
Angel -> she's has made an effort, and has suffered enough, she deserves an Owner
Wanda -> she deserves an Owner , it would be cruel to not keep the bitch

Bella -> I am inclined to keep her
the crazy one that was bulling the older sister -> does not deserve as much as Wanda , but close, is she is willing to share
the black girl is she's willing to share

not too much

The most I can see resembling a harem is Katie and her friends.

 

[Ilhares]

I am not a fan of Jenna and in my run with Jolina I can assure you that her virginity was not touched

Whereas that's the one point in the game I make a point of finishing inside her.

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I sabotaged / prevented all three/foursomes in this game with extreme success for a reason!

That, ser, is because you're a sick and twisted deviant.

I figured it was the switch from gen 3 to 8. They look better in general but the morphs for gen 3 don't play nice or work at all for gen 8 from what I've seen. Not to mention the same character in different gens are almost always different in some way. There's bound to be flaws no matter how close you can get it.

I agree. And that's why I still don't like what's happened to Debbie. I much preferred her earlier visage. The character is still awesome, and I still like to look at her, but something changed and it's hard to put my finger exactly on it. Something with the lips and the eyes. I definitely appreciate the higher quality artwork, I don't want to seem ungrateful there, but OG Debbie was the one that got my motor going. Current Debbie is just icing on the Lily cake. It would feel wrong to not go for both of them. Our children will be beautiful and plentiful.

Not into bdsm but a three-way with Monica, especially a MMF three-way would definitely turn the heat up just don't know how you would make that happen at this point of the game.

That would make zero sense in the game. Who's that second "M" supposed to be? Francois?

The answer is obvious. You ring up Roger, and the MC becomes the meat in the Roger/Monica sandwich, having the most explosive orgasm of his life as he gets stimulated from both directions at the same time. The game resumes with him waking up in the hospital after a 3 week coma.
(or do we save that for a night with Natasha?)

 

[DaimonFey]

Was likely fanservice. I very highly doubt that will ever go anywhere. Dev has said they are avoiding anything that could be seen as incest or connected to.

Incest is forbidden in most countrie and yet in some cases sisters who are pornstars appear in theresomes together and everything is fine so why not here?

 

[Avaron1974]

Incest is forbidden in most countrie and yet in some cases sisters who are pornstars appear in theresomes together and everything is fine so why not here?

Mainly because the dev has said so. It's why he changed the story in the first place. He doesn't want incest in the game so he isn't adding it.

 

[Machete]

You didn't have to go to the carnival

I know, i know, but i really play for immersion, so i felt i had to indulge Monica with her Carnival trip. That's what a functional human being would do in the circumstance

 

[DaimonFey]

Mainly because the dev has said so. It's why he changed the story in the first place. He doesn't want incest in the game so he isn't adding it.

Sisters having sex with the same person at the same time is not incest as long as they are not performing sexual acts on each other.

 

[Harlaw]

I agree. Giving Bella everything would be dumbest thing ever. How can anybody trust her when she stabbed her sister in the back multiple times? Also why would Elaine would want anything to do with Bella if she really is Dizzy? Only thing that Elaine would want from Bella is suffering and death wich is tottaly understandible if you ask me. Lawyer mentioned that Bella(he never mentioned her name) is very cold and calculating person so its ulikely that she would split everything. Best way would be giving Elaine everything and trust her to split everything between her and MC because in my opinion she is trustworthy. It will be difficoult given that we don't know Bella's requirements but perhaps our decissions will infuence that.

As for harem I agree for the most part but I think that Katie/Debbie/Lily, Jenna/Katie or Monica/Zarah are rather possible.

I guess that depends on how 'evil' Bella is supposed to be. Maybe she'd be inclined to split the inheritance with an MC who is in a relationship with her and hasn't cheated on her. She's definitely been playing the MC against Elaine, but we don't know if she's been screwing, figuratively speaking, the MC or not.

As for her screwing Elaine, that's pretty fucked up, but tbf, Elaine did kick a 19 year old out of his own home without any support system, that too just after a week of his father's death. One could argue that Elaine has it coming and it's almost a karmic punishment for her to lose the house because of MC.

 

[Avaron1974]

Sisters having sex with the same person at the same time is not incest as long as they are not performing sexual acts on each other.

It's not an argument, dev is avoiding anything that could be linked to incest. That's his choice. There's no point arguing with me over it.

Unless you want to throw a few hundred thousand at the dev so he can avoid Patreon. You make up any income he could potentially lose and i'm sure he'd be happy to do it.

 

[Harlaw]

Sisters having sex with the same person at the same time is not incest as long as they are not performing sexual acts on each other.

It has mostly to do with Patreon's TOS against promotion of incest, the devs would rather err on the side of caution than risk losing their patreon account.

 

[Machete]

It's not an argument, dev is avoiding anything that could be linked to incest. That's his choice. There's no point arguing with me over it.

Indeed. But this is still the answer to the question: Why is it legal to have twins team up in porn? Because they don't perform actual sexual acts on each other but only on the (lucky) guy.

 

[DaimonFey]

I guess that depends on how 'evil' Bella is supposed to be. Maybe she'd be inclined to split the inheritance with an MC who is in a relationship with her and hasn't cheated on her. She's definitely been playing the MC against Elaine, but we don't know if she's been screwing, figuratively speaking, the MC or not.

As for her screwing Elaine, that's pretty fucked up, but tbf, Elaine did kick a 19 year old out of his own home without any support system, that too just after a week of his father's death. One could argue that Elaine has it coming and it's almost a karmic punishment for her to lose the house because of MC.

Elaine throwing MC from his house was indead bad but we know that she is not an eveil person since she went to MC's match when Donald was out of country. Bella on the other side is treacherous slut in serious need of karmic punishment. Wanting money is ok but betraying your family is most certainly not.