VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Jacowboy]

they may know each other but they practically never talk about each other

how many times does Jenna mention Jolina? at every opportunity, even the least appropriate ones
How often does she mention Lily or Debbie? never.

while for example the "sexual" hints between Katie and Jenna have always been there, am so promising, but they had been there before

this could be a clue

then for charity if we find it under the tree at Christmas we will unwrap it

You do realize that you can tell Jenna about either Katie, Lily or Debbie (depending on your choices) in ch21, right? And she's still fine with sharing you with any of them as long as you're being honest with everyone... The thing is, if you're shooting for the 4 of them, you'll be romancing Katie too and she's the default option in that case, but if you're not romancing Katie and instead are romancing Lily or Debbie openly, Katie mentions the one you chose and Jenna asks about that one.

The point is, again, Jenna knows them and doesn't mind if it if you suggest sharing with any of them... so the possibility of that poly with Jenna, Katie, Lily & Debbie is indeed there... it might not happen, it might be a long shot, sure, but like I've been saying Jenna is completely fine with all of them (and with Jolina).

I think it is an omission that Jenna doesn't share any real screen time with Katie & friends (at least so far) except for that phone call (after the 4some) where she clearly talks about them and basically shows that she knows them very well and vice-versa, but it is what it is, the majority of interaction in Jenna's side of the story are with Jolene because of the whole "hacking" plotline.

 

[DaimonFey]

Jenna is completely fine with all of them (and with Jolina)

Jenna might not be fine with Jolina now.

 

[JaxMan]

So, when I started playing I had the MC pursue several girls, some in relationships and a few others as side girls. Then reading posts I discover that there was not going to be a harem and you would have to make a choice (which sounded singular). So then I had to redo my play style to accommodate that restriction which lead to some difficult decisions to make. Now, it seems like at the end of the story there are going to be harem endings. That seems very disingenuous after putting in many hours playing a lot of chapters of a long game.

Yeah, I know that you can start any chapter and adjust the settings and I used it a few times to try out and view scenes I normally wouldn't have based on my decisions. Without having to play the whole game again, to get the combinations I want I guess I'll just play the last chapter and make those choices in the relationship. That seems underwhelming and anti-climatic.

Would have been nice to know at the beginning what you could try and accomplish and with whom.

 

[acewinz]

It is impossible

Don't let Cheeky hear you say that too loud. He has a twisted sense of humor... almost as bad as me.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Don't let Cheeky hear you say that too loud. He has a twisted sense of humor... almost as bad as me.

my father-in-law would never do such a bad thing to me

 

[Jacowboy]

Jenna might not be fine with Jolina now.

That's true... but to be fair, I'm not sure I want to keep Joline around either at this point... she behaves differently depending on your relationship with her, but the hard truth is she's been at the very least keeping rather important information from you... or worse... but I reckon she'll still be redeemable at least (less so in certain paths though).

 

[Jacowboy]

So, when I started playing I had the MC pursue several girls, some in relationships and a few others as side girls. Then reading posts I discover that there was not going to be a harem and you would have to make a choice (which sounded singular). So then I had to redo my play style to accommodate that restriction which lead to some difficult decisions to make. Now, it seems like at the end of the story there are going to be harem endings. That seems very disingenuous after putting in many hours playing a lot of chapters of a long game.

Yeah, I know that you can start any chapter and adjust the settings and I used it a few times to try out and view scenes I normally wouldn't have based on my decisions. Without having to play the whole game again, to get the combinations I want I guess I'll just play the last chapter and make those choices in the relationship. That seems underwhelming and anti-climatic.

Would have been nice to know at the beginning what you could try and accomplish and with whom.

Well, there's no harem ending... harem means you can basically end up with everyone... so no harem, but you can end with polyamorous relationships... is there a poly tag for games? if not there probably should be, because harem is not the same as throuples / poly relationships.

 

[BillyPlums]

So, I just finished Episode 23 on my solo Monica run, and I have some (probably not very insightful) comments.

Since we haven't had the final meeting about the will/trust, we still don't KNOW whether Bella or Elaine is telling the truth, or even if neither is telling the truth. I have my opinion, of course, that Elaine is being truthful and that Bella is lying, but I don't KNOW..

As I have said, I'm on the solo Monica path, so obviously I don't care who gets the money. Assumption #1: Elaine is being totally truthful. Assumption #2: Bella has, as a condition for half her money, a need to reside in the beach house (Elaine needs the house, Bella needs the beach house). As I understand the will conditions, if I fail my condition completely, Elaine fails part 2 of her condition, and Bella fails part 2 of her conditions, the $15M gets split 3 ways. $7.5M to dog shelters, and $3.75M to each of Elaine and Bella. This is based on my recollection that if one person fails completely their share gets split by the other 2, then since each of the other 2 fail part of their conditions their failure costs them half of what they would have gotten.

There seem to be a number of people upset that Elaine/Bella/Jo have been keeping important information from the MC, while the MC keeps important information from them. I'm calling out anyone who is fucking more than one of the ladies and not being up front about it to all of the ladies involved. In my opinion, this is the worst kind of two-facedness there is. Note: I have no real knowledge as to whether the upset people are, in fact, screwing more than one lady, just totally assuming here.

I will try a solo Jenna and solo Katie run once it is all settled, but I can't see taking the money as a viable option for my MC.

 

[Jacowboy]

I think the evidence points towards Elaine being truthful, if a bit reserved with the information... Bella's been lying through her teeth, but we'll see if she actually has a good excuse for it... it's possible she does, but the way she's been lying... I don't know... it's gonna have to be one hell of a good excuse.

But even then, there's the fact that she slept with MC's dad and never said anything about it to anyone... AND she also did something wrong to Jolina, I forgot that... so even if she has a decent excuse, that doesn't erase all the other shit she's pulled in the past.

 

[indio68]

So, I just finished Episode 23 on my solo Monica run, and I have some (probably not very insightful) comments.

Since we haven't had the final meeting about the will/trust, we still don't KNOW whether Bella or Elaine is telling the truth, or even if neither is telling the truth. I have my opinion, of course, that Elaine is being truthful and that Bella is lying, but I don't KNOW..

As I have said, I'm on the solo Monica path, so obviously I don't care who gets the money. Assumption #1: Elaine is being totally truthful. Assumption #2: Bella has, as a condition for half her money, a need to reside in the beach house (Elaine needs the house, Bella needs the beach house). As I understand the will conditions, if I fail my condition completely, Elaine fails part 2 of her condition, and Bella fails part 2 of her conditions, the $15M gets split 3 ways. $7.5M to dog shelters, and $3.75M to each of Elaine and Bella. This is based on my recollection that if one person fails completely their share gets split by the other 2, then since each of the other 2 fail part of their conditions their failure costs them half of what they would have gotten.

There seem to be a number of people upset that Elaine/Bella/Jo have been keeping important information from the MC, while the MC keeps important information from them. I'm calling out anyone who is fucking more than one of the ladies and not being up front about it to all of the ladies involved. In my opinion, this is the worst kind of two-facedness there is. Note: I have no real knowledge as to whether the upset people are, in fact, screwing more than one lady, just totally assuming here.

I will try a solo Jenna and solo Katie run once it is all settled, but I can't see taking the money as a viable option for my MC.

being in solo route with monica do you went to cosplay event with jenna or not?? i am on poly route monica included and i didn't see her except a few seconds in this update.

 

[indio68]

i was pretty surprised about Jolina and bella...i helped and fuked jolina as best i can...why the hell she didn't mentioned? and keep up the charade in the beach house?? nmeed to wait nesxt update...hope it will be released soon and pass months and months

 

[indio68]

We can't know for sure, but episode 23 was hinting on multiple partners very strongly. Like Kate and Jenna know about each other and Jenna is convincing her to share. And at least the previous 2 chapters were also hiting, just not by that much as latest one. EP23 was practicaly hitting me in the face with those possibilities Also, if after all of this, after 23 episodes of basically being able to fuck them all without consequences and multiple hints on polyamorous relationships, there really be only single choice in the end, I'm gonna be extremally dissapointed. It just wouldn't make sense.

i'm only sure trhat if i end up with jenna i caould be with Jolina too...but after the last eveline revelation ..i'm not so sure how to handle jolina now...what i would is that monica-jenna andkate should apprechiate i choose them instead of 15 milions and i would be very happy to be with the 3 of them...

 

[indio68]

is that a sandbox

luckly not

 

[indio68]

anyway Bella eys are sign of her craazyness...she seems spirited in many frames

 

[Zerorox]

Don't let Cheeky hear you say that too loud. He has a twisted sense of humor... almost as bad as me.

I hope he's right, if Katie become bi-curious... my world Will shatter, we're all doomed, humanity survival is questionable

 

[JaxMan]

Well, there's no harem ending... harem means you can basically end up with everyone... so no harem, but you can end with polyamorous relationships... is there a poly tag for games? if not there probably should be, because harem is not the same as throuples / poly relationships.

No harem does not mean that. Harem just means a group of women who are sexual partners of the same man. A group can be 2 or more by definition.

Poly amorous relationships were not discussed as being available with certain characters (Jenna, Katie) by the dev until late. You could have Debbie join you with Lily but not in relationship with both, at least that is my recollection.

 

[ename144]

Jenna might not be fine with Jolina now.

I'm very curious to see how that will be handled. Ideally the MC would discuss the recent revelations with any girl he's been dating faithfully, but since Jenna and Jolina have been so interconnected her input stands out even on more... optimistic runs.

Honestly, when I stop to think about it the devs have their work cut out for them. We *need* to have a satisfying conversation with Bella and/or Jolina; even if we completely disagree with their motives, we still need to come away feeling as though our questions have been answered AND that we could articulate an appropriate response. The game has always offered us lots of choices, but that one's going to be a doozy. On top of that, we'll also want to formulate a plan to deal with whatever we learn from Bella/Jo, get input from any other girls we care about asking, advance the side plots for girls like Angel/Wanda, and avoid any new, cheating-related fireworks. And maybe squeeze a sex scene or two in there, too.

We don't have to fully resolve all of that in a single episode, of course, but we need to get the processes started. And if Cheeky's target of 25 episodes still holds, it's not like we can postpone things all that far. I'm very eager to see how it all plays out, but it wouldn't surprise me if this takes a while to finish. I don't think it's hyperbolic to say Episode 24 could make or break the game.

But, you know, no pressure, Ace.

 

[Zerorox]

I'm very curious to see how that will be handled. Ideally the MC would discuss the recent revelations with any girl he's been dating faithfully, but since Jenna and Jolina have been so interconnected her input stands out even on more... optimistic runs.

Honestly, when I stop to think about it the devs have their work cut out for them. We *need* to have a satisfying conversation with Bella and/or Jolina; even if we completely disagree with their motives, we still need to come away feeling as though our questions have been answered AND that we could articulate an appropriate response. The game has always offered us lots of choices, but that one's going to be a doozy. On top of that, we'll also want to formulate a plan to deal with whatever we learn from Bella/Jo, get input from any other girls we care about asking, advance the side plots for girls like Angel/Wanda, and avoid any new, cheating-related fireworks. And maybe squeeze a sex scene or two in there, too.

We don't have to fully resolve all of that in a single episode, of course, but we need to get the processes started. And if Cheeky's target of 25 episodes still holds, it's not like we can postpone things all that far. I'm very eager to see how it all plays out, but it wouldn't surprise me if this takes a while to finish. I don't think it's hyperbolic to say Episode 24 could make or break the game.

But, you know, no pressure, Ace.

I think we'll get some reveal in next chapter, a bit shouting, a bit crying, and MC'll run away relieving his stress we all know how))
And resolve in 25 chapter, starting with scene when MC wakes up with 3-5 girls in his bed after drinking, dancing and fucking all night...

 

[ktemanuel]

translate in spanish link

 

[danieldam]

Played the update gotta give the developers made it worth it imo. My only real gripe will be at the end of this if my throuple + jenna +jolina is blocked because so far nothing in their writing would make this option impossible