VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Bonhomie]

While we are waiting, I saw someone raising the Monica contact email again a few pages back.

Yet again nobody pointed out that the description of the sender is supplied by Jolina. Maybe she is lying.

If it was a 'mature' female then, it has to be one of Monica, Zarah or Elaine - maybe with a wig?
But remember this was BEFORE the will was read and the special terms were announced.
Whereas Jolina's "description" possibly came after.
We had that over reaction from her at the first meeting in the café?
Now she was ready to bed the MC until he had to rush off to save Jenna.


Just to throw another idea about the inheritance conditions into the melting pot - the dead Dad had a really big ego, and maybe Elaine's and/or the gold digger's terms are to get pregnant by the MC to continue Dad's dynasty.

 

[Skylaroo]

Speaking of the gold digger, I was just replaying the game while waiting and at one point in the game (Chapter 4? The part after introducing Debbie and Lily, then Katie got into MC's room), Katie said "MC, my long-lost broth.. friend... whatever ... I am glad you are back ...."

Of course the term "long-lost brother" could've been just a complete meaningless figure of speech, but at the same time, it sounded awkward to use that kind of term for a figure of speech. Is this a hint that they might share the same father but different mother? That Katie (and maybe even Jenna too) knew about Monica's relationship with MC's father? Or is this just harmless poor word of choice by Cheeky?

I'm still suspicious of Monica the most.
1. She fits Jolina's description (mature brunette curvy? can't remember exactly)
2. She can lie about the email (she sent it herself)
3. She has the motive (needing money for business)
4. She is an important character, not just a support character, thus making a better villain/plot-twist

I'm not suspicious at Jolina just because I consider her more of a side character that has less impact if she's revealed as the gold digger.

 

[Bonhomie]

I'm still suspicious of Monica the most.
1. She fits Jolina's description (mature brunette curvy? can't remember exactly)
2. She can lie about the email (she sent it herself)
3. She has the motive (needing money for business)
4. She is an important character, not just a support character, thus making a better villain/plot-twist

Cheeky is a master of suspense, and of course it is possible Monica sent the email.
As I pointed out, it was BEFORE any details of dead Dad's wealth emerged.
So Monica's reasons for sending it would have nothing to do with money - something went on with Monica and Dad - we don't know what it was. (I did suggest earlier, maybe Monica had an affair with MC's mother. )

Doesn't make her one of the golddiggers.

Still I am just looking forward to the photoshoot.

 

[Skylaroo]

As I pointed out, it was BEFORE any details of dead Dad's wealth emerged.
So Monica's reasons for sending it would have nothing to do with money

To be honest, I'm not sure if the timing matters.

The one not advertised is the father having THAT much money (15M), but judging from the fact that he owned a house, nice car, and even a beach house showed that it's common knowledge that he was actually rich. Being nice to MC could easily be a way for Monica to expect some handout from MC if she assumed that MC would get the inheritance because MC is the son.

And purely my own speculation with Monica as the gold digger, MC's condition is to sever ties with Monica/Katie/Jenna, and then later on Monica found out that her condition is to keep MC in touch with her. In the father's eyes, MC is a winner if he can sever ties with those 3, but MC is a loser if he stayed with them.

As always, I could be very wrong.

 

[BabooJ1]

And purely my own speculation with Monica as the gold digger, MC's condition is to sever ties with Monica/Katie/Jenna, and then later on Monica found out that her condition is to keep MC in touch with her. In the father's eyes, MC is a winner if he can sever ties with those 3, but MC is a loser if he stayed with them.

I understand where you are coming from this but I still feel MC would be a winner in case if Monica is the gold digger. If her condition is to keep the MC and she gets the money providing she keeps him, In this case, she gets the money and he gets to stay happy with his harem. The only things that I see in this would be if he decides to take the money then he would have to live without Monica and the girls and then I would say he is the loser.

 

[stupidcat]

I need more games like this, with deep plot and good flow

 

[Skylaroo]

I understand where you are coming from this but I still feel MC would be a winner in case if Monica is the gold digger. If her condition is to keep the MC and she gets the money providing she keeps him, In this case, she gets the money and he gets to stay happy with his harem. The only things that I see in this would be if he decides to take the money then he would have to live without Monica and the girls and then I would say he is the loser.

Correct. BUT you (and I, as well as the other players) are not the father. The father is an asshole that enjoys torturing MC. Us, the players, want MC to get both the money and the women. The father and the players have the opposite way of describing winners and losers.

Going deeper, my speculations:
1. MC's condition: stay away from Monica and family
2. Monica's condition: make MC live with her
3. Elaine's condition: make MC live with her

So with the MC and Monica's condition being against each other, the goal is creating conflict where Monica would want MC to live with them, but MC would try to resist to try get the inheritence. And on the side, Elaine would have to try her hardest to get MC to forgive her (probably why her sudden 180-degree turn on the way she treated MC before and after the will being read by the lawyer) where the conflict is that MC is supposed to hate on Elaine. Then with both Elaine and Monica pretty much having the same condition, they would fight against each other on how to win over the MC too.

Basically just the father wanting chaos between the three people he cared for. MC vs Monica vs Elaine.

 

[Bonhomie]

Good theory.
I doubt Elaine's conditions are that simple - there was a reluctance to tell the MC 'something' during the discussion at Elaine's house when Bella was there. Bella seems to know, but Elaine was sort of suggesting it was perverse, and didn't want to discuss it.

 

[Skylaroo]

I doubt Elaine's conditions are that simple

I agree, I just can't think of a plausible but more complex condition for now lol.

Assuming Monica is the third person involved, the relationships between those three are:
1. Monica nice to MC
2. Monica ??? to Elaine (never mentioned yet)
3. MC nice to Monica
4. MC hates Elaine
5. Elaine hates Monica
6. Elaine ??? MC (unclear)

The confusing part about Elaine is what she truly feels about MC.
1. If she really wanted to be nice to MC but prohibited by the father, then it's basically just her going back to natural (nice) now that the father is dead. But why was she still a bitch after the father's death and only being nice after the lawyer's meeting? The sudden turn is too suspicious especially considering the timing.
2. If she really is a bitch to MC, why would the father say something about her wanting to be nice to MC and prohibiting her about it? Is it just the father playing a game to MC by lying even after death?

Anywho, my impression of the father is that he hates the MC the most out of the 3. He'd view the two women as gold diggers and disliked them for it, but he seemed to be so invested in trying to fuck up MC's life. So I feel like it'd make most sense for the three-way battle to be Elaine vs MC vs Monica.

 

[Bonhomie]

Well Elaine knows, or thinks she knows, about something Monica has done.

Until she says what it is, we don't know if it is true, or speculation, or just what the Dad told her Monica had done.
I cannot remember how long Elaine was married to Dad, and/or what the time gap was after MC's mum died before she appeared in MC's life.
In reality there are multiple answers as Cheeky can pretty much spin it any way he likes.

As he has said that the plot is carved in stone, I would like to think that there will be a 'reveal' that makes sense with whatever events, conversations, or clues we have already seen, and from his attitude and behaviour so far, I think Cheeky will deliver.

Given all of the women involved have their fans, some of you are going to be disappointed.

 

[Deleted member 158504]

Hoping we get some titjob action scenes in this game, there's too many awesome boobed characters not to. Jenna in partiuclar.

 

[Uriel ☁]

My personal theory: *puts on a tinfoil hat*

The father is not dead.
The gold digger does not exists.
The father wants to test your resolve and Elaine's faithfulness. For that he's giving you both a task you really don't want to do.

In MC's case leaving Monica's house and staying away from her family. All the father's actions always were towards making a man out of the MC, this is the final test. MC has to prove him he's a man by sticking up to his beliefs and refusing to accomplish his task.

In Elaine's case it might be something concerning the MC, either fucking him or making him go back home. Or both.

For both of them in case they succeed in their task they actually lose.

 

[Judgementkazzy422]

I need more games like this, with deep plot and good flow

Acting lessons

 

[Alfred the Fallen]

Just to throw another idea about the inheritance conditions into the melting pot - the dead Dad had a really big ego, and maybe Elaine's and/or the gold digger's terms are to get pregnant by the MC to continue Dad's dynasty.

That's what I'm thinking too. It would explain why Bella is so aggressive with the main character and so eager to forgo protection. It fits Elaine's character because she could either be telling the truth when she says that the request in the will was a horrible condition that she wasn't going to fulfill, which caused her to finally realize how awful your father was and led her to want to make amends. Or Elaine could actually be trying to slowly seduce the main character, first by being nice, and then later getting flirty in the upcoming updates. It also felt a bit like Bella was trying to keep Elaine from getting too friendly with you by reminding you of all the things bad things she did, even though she was also trying to smooth things over between the two of you. So maybe Bella suspects that Elaine got the same condition she did.

It's all speculation of course, but it seems to fit with what we've been given so far.

 

[Imjustghosting]

HELP. I downloaded the incest patch which comes with the walkthrough patch. I have the walkthrough option disabled for all girls but the game is still telling me the good and bad options its driving me nuts did anyone find a fix for this?

 

[crashload]

I really enjoyed the game and a big thank you for the mod Phalzyr I really hope the dev let us keep all the girls and everything is working out for the MC i know I am selfish there but the game is really enjoyable like that I would be a little disappoint if the MC lose any girl but I think we have to wait for the upcoming content for more keep up the good work but i am still curios what in the other to wills stand

 

[Uriel ☁]

HELP. I downloaded the incest patch which comes with the walkthrough patch. I have the walkthrough option disabled for all girls but the game is still telling me the good and bad options its driving me nuts did anyone find a fix for this?

It's an incest MOD, not an incest PATCH. It seems the same but it isn't.
A patch is something that restores the original state of the game. So if the game originally contained incest, and it was removed after Patron went banana and started banning them, a patch would restore it like it was originally envisioned.
A mod is something that alter the game giving it a different or additional direction, like altering a game mechanic or dialogs.
This game has been around since before Patreon banned incest content and it never featured any kind of incest.

With that said you should ask about it to the mod author Phalzyr.

 

[goobdoob]

It's an incest MOD, not an incest PATCH. It seems the same but it isn't.
A patch is something that restores the original state of the game. So if the game originally contained incest, and it was removed after Patron went banana and started banning them, a patch would restore it like it was originally envisioned.
A mod is something that alter the game giving it a different or additional direction, like altering a game mechanic or dialogs.
This game has been around since before Patreon banned incest content and it never featured any kind of incest.

With that said you should ask about it to the mod author Phalzyr.

I need to take issue with your definitions.

A patch is a change. "Restore the original state of the game" is something you can do with a patch, but it's not all that a patch is.

You must be registered to see the links

A mod is a change that makes the program do something that the original release didn't intend. So, in a sense, an incest patch could be a mod. Almost all patches are mods; all mods are not patches. You could have a "total conversion" that is distributed in toto, instead of as a patch.

You must be registered to see the links

In WTHI's case, the patch is a mod, since the game was not created as an incest game. In Sisterly Lusts's case, there's a patch that flips a switch, and a console command to flip that switch, so you don't need the patch. I wouldn't consider that patch to be a mod.

 

[youcancooktwo]

I agree, I just can't think of a plausible but more complex condition for now lol.

Assuming Monica is the third person involved, the relationships between those three are:
1. Monica nice to MC
2. Monica ??? to Elaine (never mentioned yet)
3. MC nice to Monica
4. MC hates Elaine
5. Elaine hates Monica
6. Elaine ??? MC (unclear)

The confusing part about Elaine is what she truly feels about MC.
1. If she really wanted to be nice to MC but prohibited by the father, then it's basically just her going back to natural (nice) now that the father is dead. But why was she still a bitch after the father's death and only being nice after the lawyer's meeting? The sudden turn is too suspicious especially considering the timing.
2. If she really is a bitch to MC, why would the father say something about her wanting to be nice to MC and prohibiting her about it? Is it just the father playing a game to MC by lying even after death?

Anywho, my impression of the father is that he hates the MC the most out of the 3. He'd view the two women as gold diggers and disliked them for it, but he seemed to be so invested in trying to fuck up MC's life. So I feel like it'd make most sense for the three-way battle to be Elaine vs MC vs Monica.

I think there are a lot of good comments here, and much speculation to enjoy. However after playing through this game, numerous times and really putting myself into the mindset of the MC- I feel as though there's a deeper meaning and more than meets the eye.

For starters,

Monica: She's hiding a deep dark secret and no- its not the e-mail. (We'll get to that later on). When she first encounters the MC, she smells like alcohol and provocatively walks up the stairs in front of him. Anyone with a basic elementary degree would know that proper decorum would be to have a man walk up the stairs first, and walk down stairs first. (to not look up a dress, and to catch the woman if she falls). Monica didn't do either. She's a single mother with the financial implications of a car restoration, a new home, two college educations plus her own student loans and business debt. She MUST know about some sort of inheritance, probably received an email about it as well and she's not letting on- and is trying to seduce the young and impressionable main character. With that said, the fact that neither of her daughters work, and are both in university tends to lead that she is deep in debt and would do almost anything for money. Even if it means seducing impressionable youth.

Zarah: She is your E-mailer. The whole reason she changed her hair color was to throw off anyone who saw her at the Internet cafe. This will come into vision soon enough. Zarah is secretly the sister of Elaine who was having an affair with the MC's father. She's also the mother of Katie (Hence the tan resemblance and the fact they both have amazing backsides). You'll notice that half way through the story Katie AND Zarah's appearance changed. This is because they're both out together to get the MC to break his inheritance guarantee and in order to do so, need him to sleep with Monica. Mysteriously enough Zarah is always there right when something troubling is going down with Monica. This is because she's causing it all. Secretively and Seductively she's using her influence to take the inheritance from her sister. You see, MC's father is also the father of Katie, and he abandoned her for Elaine. She's out for revenge against the whole family and won't rest until she gets it.

Katie: Doesn't know that MC is her brother, only that His family deeply hurt her biological mother. Likewise Monica doesn't know that Katie knows Zarah is her mother. It was only revealed when they went swimming together and have matching big dipper birthmarks under their right armpits. Katie has a deep misunderstanding of romance and spends the nights furiously reciting line by line of 50 shades of grey hoping at one point in time she'll find her own Christian.

Jenna: Is Monica's biological daughter. She knows there's something fishy going on and is the smartest of them all. She's also playing dumb to the MC and getting him to reveal information to her. She knows that the cafe owner has more information than she's letting on and is slowly creeping into her personal life to get the answers. (Going on a date with her stalker who knows EVERYTHING about her) and logging into her own camera at home. She also knows that she's not related to the MC and has been scoping out his nefarious activities via his own computer cam. at the end of the day, Jenna is the one to watch out for... she knows all.

MC: The MC is like a puppeteer with all the strings, but only half of the controls. He doesn't know about Zarah or Katie which is his biggest weakness. However he's holding a secret of his own. Secretly he IS his own father. One night while waiting online for the next update of the game, he saw Cheeky's apology and delay notice, and in a fit of rage, went into his hard drive archives to play dreams of desire. Then during a freak electrical storm he traded places with his son. His son, who had never played DOD went through the whole game and landed on the bad ending giving his a heart attack, thus ending his life.

Im looking forward to what's next.

 

[B-52reloaded]

I think there are a lot of good comments here, and much speculation to enjoy. However after playing through this game, numerous times and really putting myself into the mindset of the MC- I feel as though there's a deeper meaning and more than meets the eye.

For starters,

Monica: She's hiding a deep dark secret and no- its not the e-mail. (We'll get to that later on). When she first encounters the MC, she smells like alcohol and provocatively walks up the stairs in front of him. Anyone with a basic elementary degree would know that proper decorum would be to have a man walk up the stairs first, and walk down stairs first. (to not look up a dress, and to catch the woman if she falls). Monica didn't do either. She's a single mother with the financial implications of a car restoration, a new home, two college educations plus her own student loans and business debt. She MUST know about some sort of inheritance, probably received an email about it as well and she's not letting on- and is trying to seduce the young and impressionable main character. With that said, the fact that neither of her daughters work, and are both in university tends to lead that she is deep in debt and would do almost anything for money. Even if it means seducing impressionable youth.

Zarah: She is your E-mailer. The whole reason she changed her hair color was to throw off anyone who saw her at the Internet cafe. This will come into vision soon enough. Zarah is secretly the sister of Elaine who was having an affair with the MC's father. She's also the mother of Katie (Hence the tan resemblance and the fact they both have amazing backsides). You'll notice that half way through the story Katie AND Zarah's appearance changed. This is because they're both out together to get the MC to break his inheritance guarantee and in order to do so, need him to sleep with Monica. Mysteriously enough Zarah is always there right when something troubling is going down with Monica. This is because she's causing it all. Secretively and Seductively she's using her influence to take the inheritance from her sister. You see, MC's father is also the father of Katie, and he abandoned her for Elaine. She's out for revenge against the whole family and won't rest until she gets it.

Katie: Doesn't know that MC is her brother, only that His family deeply hurt her biological mother. Likewise Monica doesn't know that Katie knows Zarah is her mother. It was only revealed when they went swimming together and have matching big dipper birthmarks under their right armpits. Katie has a deep misunderstanding of romance and spends the nights furiously reciting line by line of 50 shades of grey hoping at one point in time she'll find her own Christian.

Jenna: Is Monica's biological daughter. She knows there's something fishy going on and is the smartest of them all. She's also playing dumb to the MC and getting him to reveal information to her. She knows that the cafe owner has more information than she's letting on and is slowly creeping into her personal life to get the answers. (Going on a date with her stalker who knows EVERYTHING about her) and logging into her own camera at home. She also knows that she's not related to the MC and has been scoping out his nefarious activities via his own computer cam. at the end of the day, Jenna is the one to watch out for... she knows all.

MC: The MC is like a puppeteer with all the strings, but only half of the controls. He doesn't know about Zarah or Katie which is his biggest weakness. However he's holding a secret of his own. Secretly he IS his own father. One night while waiting online for the next update of the game, he saw Cheeky's apology and delay notice, and in a fit of rage, went into his hard drive archives to play dreams of desire. Then during a freak electrical storm he traded places with his son. His son, who had never played DOD went through the whole game and landed on the bad ending giving his a heart attack, thus ending his life.

Im looking forward to what's next.

Wow man really - you should make your own game! And I tell you what: DrPinkCake the mastermind of twisted plot would be jealous like hell! Seriously have you ever considered to at least writing plot lines for games? You seem to have the talent in abundance!