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No more secrets! Someone should make a game with that name. Is Marius the 3rd person in the will?
I can neither confirm nor deny my involvement, nor confirm or deny that there actually is any will at all. If I were you though, I'd keep my eye on Tamara, she shifty and certainly recommend staying at Monica's....just a piece of advice, not that I can confirm nor deny that information either, that we even spoke or where we spoke...if at all, or even my own existance for that matter.

You understand my position. ;)
 
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If you've used Mods and then saved. Trying to then load a save if the Mod used isn't updated will likely cause your game to crash. Hope that's helpful? (y)
I tried to answer this exact error a page or two back for someone else. Looks like mod installed. As the Cigar said, ditch it.
Thanks, i deleted the mod and started the chapter. It worked
 

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Is it possible Elaine is not one of the 3 getting the money?
Hmm, I hadn't even considered she wouldn't get any money .... Are you thinking she will only get the house?
ohhhhh....now there's an angle I didn't consider. That unfortunately raises more questions though:

Is Bella in the will, but not as the mystery gold-digger?
If Elaine isn't....what exactly is she doing to 'make sure we get our share'?
Is Elaine running around to help Bella...or herself (possible contesting of the will)?

Hmmm...
 

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Hmm, I hadn't even considered she wouldn't get any money .... Are you thinking she will only get the house?
Was more like a random thought, we've taken it for granted. She's hinted to making sure the MC is well taken care of or something like that but I don't think we know she gets 5mill.

Fwiw I think she is one of the 3.
 

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Was more like a random thought, we've taken it for granted. She's hinted to making sure the MC is well taken care of or something like that but I don't think we know she gets 5mill.

Fwiw I think she is one of the 3.
I also think she is yes.

That said...not seen it overly discussed, what's her extra condition that 'if/when' she tells us...will cause an even bigger rift/trouble between us and her? it's mentioned two or three times in the game that she doesn't want to ruin us growing closer...
 
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ohhhhh....now there's an angle I didn't consider. That unfortunately raises more questions though:

Is Bella in the will, but not as the mystery gold-digger?
If Elaine isn't....what exactly is she doing to 'make sure we get our share'?
Is Elaine running around to help Bella...or herself (possible contesting of the will)?

Hmmm...
Was more like a random thought, we've taken it for granted. She's hinted to making sure the MC is well taken care of or something like that but I don't think we know she gets 5mill.
And here we go again! :LOL:
Fwiw I think she is one of the 3
Yes, I agree and think she is, but very interesting to think about. (y)
 

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That said...not seen it overly discussed, what's her extra condition that 'if/when' she tells us...will cause an even bigger rift/trouble between us and her? it's mentioned two or three times in the game that she doesn't want to ruin us growing closer...
And that didn't feel to me like it was in a seductress kind of way, felt more like she genuinely wanted to fix things. Still, I've been blindsided plenty of times now so what do I know! Fingers still crossed she's on the level with MC. :)
 

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what's her extra condition that 'if/when' she tells us...will cause an even bigger rift/trouble between us and her? it's mentioned two or three times in the game that she doesn't want to ruin us growing closer...
I'm hoping what she thinks will ruin that my MC thinks YES please. :D
 
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Just finished playing the update and it was a really good one.

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The renders are getting even better too, I hadn't played Episode 17 so I had a huge amount of content to catch up, both very good updates as always!

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Just finished playing the update and it was a really good one.

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That library scene was excellent! :)
Agreed, she a great lil character. Everyone else agrees too rofl
Which character are we agreeing to here? Feels like a set up to me .... :sneaky:
Lily for life...right alongside Debbie *sighs contentedly*
I dunno man .... These days I think Debbie has jumped to 2nd on the list .... She may even become top, who knows!?
 

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So There's a bit of information here that suggests that Jenna and Jolina are closer than everyone thinks.

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Jolina constantly refers to her hatred of men and I wouldn't doubt that she only asked to apologize to MC as a means of keeping communication opened up with Jenna. She clearly speaks of the troubles of being a lesbian as if she is very familiar with it. Any time you ask her about her interests in women she dodges you and she has spent time with Jenna on multiple occasions without your presence.

This all is evidence without the famous "PC" Image.

This is largely why I feel as though Cleo's prophecies are so vague in comparison to what she admits is normal. Each one of her prophecies has a double meaning. I believe that it doesn't just refer to Katie and Debbie but also Jenna and Jolina.

Thanks for entertaining my thoughts. =)
 

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So There's a bit of information here that suggests that Jenna and Jolina are closer than everyone thinks.

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Jolina constantly refers to her hatred of men and I wouldn't doubt that she only asked to apologize to MC as a means of keeping communication opened up with Jenna. She clearly speaks of the troubles of being a lesbian as if she is very familiar with it. Any time you ask her about her interests in women she dodges you and she has spent time with Jenna on multiple occasions without your presence.

This all is evidence without the famous "PC" Image.

This is largely why I feel as though Cleo's prophecies are so vague in comparison to what she admits is normal. Each one of her prophecies has a double meaning. I believe that it doesn't just refer to Katie and Debbie but also Jenna and Jolina.

Thanks for entertaining my thoughts. =)
No evidence there at all sorry. You keep coming up with this stuff but it's all supposition.

Ask any woman about her history with men...and it will make you wonder why any of them bother with us at all. Nothing she says suggest she either hates men or indicates she is a lesbian.

Assumed sister as good looking as Jenna. Aaaannd? She can't comment another woman is attractive?
Jenna more in common with Jolina. Both nerdy, wiz with computers etc. Then laughs. She teasing you.
Cozying up together. Again..just teasing you. Besides, women are much closer to each other than men are. Anyone knows that.
Don't do men/boyfriends. Could be taken any number of ways. Maybe she doesn't want a relationship with a guy, just likes no-strings. I know many straight wpomen who don't do boyfriends myself.
Long time since successful date. Yeah well..see my previous comment, too many men are idiotic imbeciles who wouldn't know how to treat a woman properly if the manual was tattoed on their ass.
Thanks for restoring faith. Again...see last comment re many men and many womens experiences.
I told you I don't like men. Many women claim to be gay to avoid men getting ahead of themselves. Hell, very popular girl on a game right here on F95 said the same thing....
Difficult for same sex couples these days. Umm...are only gay people allowed to express such a statement?
Care more about you than I expected. Well again, we're not old..she has bad experiences...and it's been a few weeks. Not a difficult one to understand either.

Jolina isn't invited to the beach house either. That is key as that is all part of the same speech from Cleo which much more strongly suggests, this refers to Debbie and not Jolina. Again, as I stated earlier today in a previous post, whether this actually means anything or is just a statement on your life (Cleo makes a few of those) is another matter I guess.

Now, it perhaps does look that way should you choose to view it that way, I don't. Half of what she says is said with jokes and the rest just bad experiences. That's not to say she doesn't swing both ways, much like Bella might (though Bella's off-hand comment can be taken multiple ways, women do taste themselves) but nothing Jolina says can be taken as evidence of anything, all insubstantial evidence at best.
 
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This is largely why I feel as though Cleo's prophecies are so vague in comparison to what she admits is normal. Each one of her prophecies has a double meaning. I believe that it doesn't just refer to Katie and Debbie but also Jenna and Jolina.
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I jest, good post. Still nothing concrete though. (y)
 

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No evidence there at all sorry. You keep coming up with this stuff but it's all supposition.

Ask any woman about her history with men...and it will make you wonder why any of them bother with us at all. Nothing she says suggest she either hates men or indicates she is a lesbian.

It does should you choose to view it that way, I don't. Half of what she says is said with jokes and the rest just bad experiences. That's not to say she doesn't swing both ways, much like Bella might (though Bella's off-hand comment can be taken multiple ways, women do taste themselves) but nothing Jolina says can be taken as evidence of anything, all insubstantial evidence at best.
Because the game is left with vagueness to throw players off and keep them guessing.
I'm exploring all avenues and like it or not this is evidence. I'll admit, like you said is open to interpretation.

Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an , because evident things are undoubted. There are two kind of evidence: intellectual evidence (the obvious, the evident) and (proofs).

The mentioned support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct of the of an assertion. At the other extreme is evidence that is merely consistent with an assertion but does not rule out other, contradictory assertions, as in .

I'm okay with you choosing to not see things the way I do because I'm a Theorists, there are a lot of good chances I could be wrong on many things. But for me it's less about being right or wrong and more about the joy of searching for the clues.

Some people like yourself prefer to go off of nothing more than raw facts. That's fine too. I just prefer gathering clues and building assumptions or theories based on where the clues lead. This is what makes this game so much fun to me. I haven't played another game on F95 that has peaked my curiosity enough to get me Theory crafting with the exception of The DeLuca Family.

So it's fine my man. It's actually good that you present an alternative view actually. Keeps things balanced. =)
 
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