VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Maviarab]

So after thinking remake...? Lets give the old shit Episode 24 a try I can conclude the following:
The Writing and any narrative causality it was supposed to create utterly collapses every episode anew.

Final example:

I got used to the random side chick from Episode XX appears => Main Girl Romance is_kill = yes
But the Jolina, Elaine, Bella at the Beach House scene invalidates a player choice five clicks after it was optioned.

If I am given the following switch board

EP 24: Mayor Decision Warning
1) E=Yes, B=No
2) E=No, B=yes
3) E=yes, B= Yes, B_revenge = yes

Why does: Fuck_J_First from Episode 22, set B=No and B_revenge = No?

It deselects Bella from the game without any prompt or player input and invalidates the revenge path aka third choice I made five clicks ago...
I was promised a Revenge plot and some Bella action, but now that Coffee Jane makes me rich for fucking her first I no longer want to romance or revenge Bella? WTF? Why offer a choice only to kill it five clicks later...

The game went from female romance option refuses MC due to cluster fuck to => MC refuses romance options by himself after choosing it...

TL;DR:
Don't bother with the remake if the writing in every episode causes random romance kills in the same or following episode. I lost faith in that game ever having a clear path remake or not...

Ummm...what?

 

[HornyyPussy]

Ummm...what?

I think he's on second.......

 

[motseer]

I think he's on second.......

Then who's on first?

 

[HornyyPussy]

Then who's on first?

Yes

 

[keefer43]

Yes

What an act you guys have, heh.

 

[twofacejoker]

Have more episodes been added to the season version?

 

[CheekyGimp]

So after thinking remake...? Lets give the old shit Episode 24 a try I can conclude the following:
The Writing and any narrative causality it was supposed to create utterly collapses every episode anew.

Final example:

I got used to the random side chick from Episode XX appears => Main Girl Romance is_kill = yes
But the Jolina, Elaine, Bella at the Beach House scene invalidates a player choice five clicks after it was optioned.

If I am given the following switch board

EP 24: Mayor Decision Warning
1) E=Yes, B=No
2) E=No, B=yes
3) E=yes, B= Yes, B_revenge = yes

Why does: Fuck_J_First from Episode 22, set B=No and B_revenge = No?

It deselects Bella from the game without any prompt or player input and invalidates the revenge path aka third choice I made five clicks ago...
I was promised a Revenge plot and some Bella action, but now that Coffee Jane makes me rich for fucking her first I no longer want to romance or revenge Bella? WTF? Why offer a choice only to kill it five clicks later...

The game went from female romance option refuses MC due to cluster fuck to => MC refuses romance options by himself after choosing it...

TL;DR:
Don't bother with the remake if the writing in every episode causes random romance kills in the same or following episode. I lost faith in that game ever having a clear path remake or not...

If someone can translate this for me, I'll take a look at your complaint. I think you are complaining about my writing, but I cannot be sure. If I were you, I'd consider re-writing your message because I think your cat may have ran across your keyboard as you were typing. Now considering how difficult your small message was to follow, imagine trying to write a game with 912,376 words, hundreds of major path divergences and thousands of choices. Not that easy, right? But thanks for the feedback, if that's what it was. Or maybe it was a recipe for hungarian goulash that someone converted to chinese using google translate and then back to english using the Rosetta stone.

 

[CheekyGimp]

Hi.
Just discovered this and playing on Android using Ceb's. Do I need to download both season 1 and episode 24?

No, they can be treated like separate games (saves aren't compatible). Season 1 is the remake with updated art and script changes (and will cover episodes 1-10 of the original, plus some new/original content). This will be released on steam when it's finished (this summer). The original game will conclude with episode 25 (plus some epilogues) and work will re-commence on episode 25 this summer once we get the steam release completed. After episode 25 and epilogues are released, the original game is over. And then we will continue with the steam version until it also ends at the same place as the original. The second half of the original game and the second half of the remake will be very similar as there'll be very few changes (really only the first half that is getting the overhaul), so as we progress with the remake / steam version, there will be less and less edits required compared to the original. Season 2 will not continue the game AFTER episode 25. It is just the next bunch of episodes (after episode 10) of the remake... so Season 2 will cover (for example) episodes 11-20. Hope that makes sense?

 

[CheekyGimp]

Have more episodes been added to the season version?

Not since the April release. There will be another release / update later this month.

 

[enzo ferrari]

Summertime Saga Will be finished before this game lmao

 

[Maviarab]

Summertime Saga Will be finished before this game lmao

Congratulations!

 

[Abhai]

Summertime Saga Will be finished before this game lmao

if some great genie would grant me only 3 gaming wishes, one of those would be that all games/avns i enjoy much end being unfinished at the same level as this one is atm.

 

[shadosgt]

Ok I'm just trying to verify, there is currently no way to keep Monica/Katie/Jenna relationship wise? Am I missing something? It's really You keep
Mon/Zar or
Jen/Kat or
lie to them and lose all 3?

 

[Maviarab]

Ok I'm just trying to verify, there is currently no way to keep Monica/Katie/Jenna relationship wise? Am I missing something? It's really You keep
Mon/Zar or
Jen/Kat or
lie to them and lose all 3?

Correct.

 

[JackMiejov]

Ok I'm just trying to verify, there is currently no way to keep Monica/Katie/Jenna relationship wise? Am I missing something? It's really You keep
Mon/Zar or
Jen/Kat or
lie to them and lose all 3?

I think, through the end of Ep24, the game forces the player to make the choices:

Katie -OR- Monica
Bella -OR- Elaine

As far as I know, neither Zarah nor Jenna have an impact, but you're correct that there's no way to keep Monica/Katie/Jenna.

 

[K.T.L.]

Yeah. Pity that. I had to reject Monika because I can't resist Katie for long.
On the other hand, they're all just icing on the Lily cake...

 

[Massagecook01]

Yeah. Pity that. I had to reject Monika because I can't resist Katie for long.
On the other hand, they're all just icing on the Lily cake...

i had a terrible feeling and was so upset with myself when katie said that she heard monica crying in her room and that she suspected that monica's boyfriend broke up with her.

 

[K.T.L.]

i had a terrible feeling and was so upset with myself when katie said that she heard monica crying in her room and that she suspected that monica's boyfriend broke up with her.

Yeah, that doesn't sound good but I haven't seen that scene. I have never let things progress that far. I rejected anything but a friendly relationship with her from the start. But then I'm not averse to multiple play through's of a game so once I work out what's going on in the first run through, I know how to avoid a lots of the 'unwanted' scenes in subsequent runs. Guess I was just lucky that on my first playthrough I went with Katie, Lily and Debbie. Just can't avoid Lily, she's so impossibly cute.

 

[Massagecook01]

Yeah, that doesn't sound good but I haven't seen that scene. I have never let things progress that far. I rejected anything but a friendly relationship with her from the start. But then I'm not averse to multiple play through's of a game so once I work out what's going on in the first run through, I know how to avoid a lots of the 'unwanted' scenes in subsequent runs. Guess I was just lucky that on my first playthrough I went with Katie, Lily and Debbie. Just can't avoid Lily, she's so impossibly cute.

yeah i hear you Lily has one of those natural bodies that was made to breed and bear children, she's got the skin, the not huge boobs but not small and a ass for days and her face is probaly one of the most beautiful in the game, i had to reject her and debbie for katie and jenna or if i did or not i'm not sure i rejected them because i never got a scene to were we had the converation about breaking up.

 

[K.T.L.]

yeah i hear you Lily has one of those natural bodies that was made to breed and bear children, she's got the skin, the not huge boobs but not small and a ass for days and her face is probaly one of the most beautiful in the game, i had to reject her and debbie for katie and jenna or if i did or not i'm not sure i rejected them because i never got a scene to were we had the converation about breaking up.

Pretty sure I've seen a comment somewhere in this thread that said Jenna is happy with whoever you're with. I haven't tried it yet but, if that's the case, there should be no issue getting Lily, Debbie, Katie and Jenna. I'll have to try that next. Sounds sort of exciting tbh... I'm not that bothered about the rest of them!