VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Snugglepuff]

One of these things is not like the others...

Which is precisely why it would work... in my head anway

Would the image look something like this?
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Yes!
And it's every bit as awesome as in my head

Remove Elaine and the other 3 might be possible.

How... How daaaaaaaaaaaaaare you!

Seriously though, I'm not actually looking for a harem in the game. Even if Elaine would make an awesome "head girl" for the rest to be mentored with.
Although, giving an ounce of serious thought to it, I wouldn't be surprised if Lily would wind up being the defacto "head girl" in a possible Katie/Lily/Debbie outcome. She does seem to play up her image of "dumb girl" enough that she's one dye job away from an iconic cliche.

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

She does seem to play up her image of "dumb girl" enough that she's one dye job away from an iconic cliche.

Nah, she already said she wouldn't fight for the MC in a head to head against Katie as she'd get her ass kicked!
Hopefully, that beach house awesome-four-some will live up to my head-cannon though, can't wait.

 

[Maviarab]

Nah, she already said she wouldn't fight for the MC in a head to head against Katie as she'd get her ass kicked!
Hopefully, that beach house awesome-four-some will live up to my head-cannon thought, can't wait.

One can only hope and dream CF.

 

[Boracle]

Bella won't share at all, she made that very clear.

Well she might not be willing to share, but she might be willing to ADD the MC into the relationship with Jolina. Because like
Cigar-Ferras pointed out, there are some very interesting connection the may be made earlier in the game if you pay attention to the details. A lot can be explained with a Jolina-Bella relationship, present or past and a Jolina-Bella-Elaine team.

For the ones who still doubt about Elaine being a lying bitch - one of the most noticeable signs of her dishonesty is the complete 180 her attitude had towards the MC. She went from "don't try to come here, you're not welcome in my house" to "oh, how are you? Do u have a place to stay? You can stay here. I wanna be a proper step mom to you" in a matter of 2 days. This makes me pretty sure her conditions have to do something with the way she treats the MC. Or maybe she's to never see another men, except the MC for the duration of the will conditions - 10 years. This however seems pretty unlikely and i don't think it would've made her change her attitude so fast. Still the most interesting thing for me is how she or any of her team found out about MC's conditions so they decided to set him up even before he had any idea what was about to happen.

One other possible role for Jolina is as a detective/emplyee of the private agency supposed to pry on the MC or the other parties. Newly started business owner is a perfect cover. This would also explain her technical expertise. Sleeping with her target might be her mission to gain his trust.

 

[Avaron1974]

Still the most interesting thing for me is how she or any of her team found out about MC's conditions so they decided to set him up even before he had any idea what was about to happen.

If Elaine did try to set the MC up before finding out about his will conditions then she is officially the dumbest person in the game.

Not only did the same mail get sent to several of his friends, they had no way of knowing Monica would be able to take him in.

So not only could one of his friends ruin their "plan" but it had no clear goal.

That would have left everything up to chance and with that much money on the line it would be dumb as all hell relying on luck.

Not only that but she also gave him the beach house meaning he has another place to stay to fulfil his will conditions.

Not only that but she's also starting on a journey towards banging him which also helps towards his will conditions.

So if Elaine was behind the plan to set him up, she's done nothing but help him since thus marking her as the official numb nuts of WTHI.

The only way to set the MC up is to keep him at Monica's which Elaine, Bella and Jolina are doing a really bad job of. Bella and Jolina are both after him moving out into the beach house and Elaine has enough room for him to stay there if they get together.

Even if Elaine has conditions that require her to be near the MC that too helps him with his so he wins either way.

tl;dr Bella, Jolina and Elaine are all helping him win his money by doing what they are doing. All of them will end with him leaving Monica's which is his will conditions met.

 

[Boracle]

I guess MC just needs to put on a little make up, jump into some pantyhose, pour himself a glass of red wine and jump into the bathtub with a turned on hairdryer so he can finally can hear what all these women are thinking.

I also have the distinct feeling the answer has been under our noses all the time and finally when we find out, all of us would be like

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

Not only that but she also gave him the beach house meaning he has another place to stay to fulfil his will conditions.

Not really as she didn't "Give" him the beach house, whether she wanted to or not, it was willed to him so there was nothing Elaine could do or say about it. She may have said she was going to give it to him anyway and perhaps she was but IF she knew something more than she should at that point it would make her look very good in his eyes that she's trying to be nicer.

Not only that but she's also starting on a journey towards banging him which also helps towards his will conditions.

When did she do this? Is this how your game worked out? Unless with the MC (My choices) to pursue "Her" she wasn't doing or saying anything (in my game) that was anything other than flirty so I'm not sure where you're getting that from? And how would that help his conditions? Regardless where he stayed he could still potentially bang her and return to Monica's, no? Do you have insider info? (Wanna share?)

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

One other possible role for Jolina is as a detective/emplyee of the private agency supposed to pry on the MC or the other parties. Newly started business owner is a perfect cover. This would also explain her technical expertise. Sleeping with her target might be her mission to gain his trust.

I like this idea, not sure I buy it, but it's a fun thought. I didn't think that would have been a thing until he signed the will papers to confirm that he would abide by his conditions though.

 

[Maviarab]

Where he lives is rather irelevent (unless he moves country). He may well agree to the will conditions, live in the beach house...what's to stop one of the girls suddenly turning up at his place? Not of his doing...so would that classify as breaking will conditions? The only way he can realistically have no contact with them...is if he kills them...or moves a long long way away.

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

Where he lives is rather irelevent (unless he moves country). He may well agree to the will conditions, live in the beach house...what's to stop one of the girls suddenly turning up at his place? Not of his doing...so would that classify as breaking will conditions? The only way he can realistically have no contact with them...is if he kills them...or moves a long long way away.

Exactly, it can't be all that far from where Monica lives, at least within a fairly short driving distance. Jenna threatens to hunt him down if he leaves if you're on her path. Katie say's she would wait the 10 years for him and then find and kick his ass if on her path but I can't see her having the patients for that! I'm honestly not sure if you can deliberately not tell them about the will conditions, I think you can if memory serves but I've never not told them so maybe there is a way to keep the main three in the dark for the most part?

 

[Maviarab]

Exactly, it can't be all that far from where Monica lives, at least within a fairly short driving distance. Jenna threatens to hunt him down if he leaves if you're on her path. Katie say's she would wait the 10 years for him and then find and kick his ass if on her path but I can't see her having the patients for that! I'm honestly not sure if you can deliberately not tell them about the will conditions, I think you can if memory serves but I've never not told them so maybe there is a way to keep the main three in the dark for the most part?

Yeah not sure...in the 2 runs I did (which will be deleting)...I also told them the conditions. Might have to have to try that and see if it's possible...unless someone else can clarify if it's possible?

 

[Avaron1974]

Not really as she didn't "Give" him the beach house, whether she wanted to or not, it was willed to him so there was nothing Elaine could do or say about it. She may have said she was going to give it to him anyway and perhaps she was but IF she knew something more than she should at that point it would make her look very good in his eyes that she's trying to be nicer.

When did she do this? Is this how your game worked out? Unless with the MC (My choices) to pursue "Her" she wasn't doing or saying anything (in my game) that was anything other than flirty so I'm not sure where you're getting that from? And how would that help his conditions? Regardless where he stayed he could still potentially bang her and return to Monica's, no? Do you have insider info? (Wanna share?)

She coud have done any number of things to keep the beach house away from him. Burn it down for insurance if she knew the plan before hand which is what was assumed in the previous comment.

Quick one, why, oh why, would he be banging Elaine and living with Monica?

That makes no sense. He has reason to be with Elaine, they are banging, and she has room for him to move in. If they started seeing each other that's what he'd do.

Or is your MC an idiot?

Start a relationship with someone outside of Monica's family yet still live there for no reason and throw away millions.

Wut?

For the Elaine banging journey, yes it's your choice to pursue it but the fact it can be pursued shows she's open to it.

You are missing the point though.

Anyone setting the MC up needs him to stay at Monica's. Flirting, handing over other property, offering a place to live etc... are all in direct opposition of that.

If he stays at Monica's. Elaine gets his money too.

If he leaves Monica's he gets it.

The second she starts soemthing with him, he moves into the beach house or even takes her up on her offer of moving in with her, he's won his conditions.

It doesn't matter if Elaine's conditions are to fuck the Mc, get close to him, mess his head up completely. He's still won his conditions and walked away with millions because she actively got him away from Monica which, again, would make her the dumbest antagonist ever.

Jolina and Bella also want him to move out of Monica's and with them to the beach house.

The only people trying to keep him at Monica's are Zarah and Monica then you have Theresa that either hasn't done anything or set her son up to stalk Jenna which would keep the MC there to protect her.

tl;dr 2 the only way Elaine would have set the MC up is if she was a fucking moron.

 

[Boracle]

Well the will conditions specify that even if the MC bumps into Monica on the street his conditions are breached and he loses the money. The will specifies MC's not come in 2 mile radius of Monica or the girls. I guess the point of that is to make him leave as far as possible if he wants the money. Maybe Elaine's plan involves the MC at the beach house for that reason.

 

[Avaron1974]

Well the will conditions specify that even if the MC bumps into Monica on the street his conditions are breached and he loses the money. The will specifies MC's not come in 2 mile radius of Monica or the girls. I guess the point of that is to make him leave as far as possible if he wants the money. Maybe Elaine's plan involves the MC at the beach house for that reason.

That wouldn't hold up in court.

Only realistic conditions can be set.

Crossing paths in public or them turning up on a public beach where his home is wouldn't stand up as a breach, there is no way of enforcing that.

Will conditions can't be enforced on chance.

The conditions were him leaving her home and not having any contact. Crossing paths in public space is a chance encounter and any judge would laugh at any lawyer trying to bring that up.

 

[Boracle]

That wouldn't hold up in court.

Only realistic conditions can be set.

Crossing paths in public or them turning up on a public beach where his home is wouldn't stand up as a breach, there is no way of enforcing that.

Will conditions can't be enforced on chance.

The conditions were him leaving her home and not having any contact. Crossing paths in public space is a chance encounter and any judge would laugh at any lawyer trying to bring that up.

There are some cases the may apply like the restraining orders do. Also the beach at the house isn't public, Elaine specified it was a private beach and the only place where the father let her walk in a bikini.

 

[Avaron1974]

There are some cases the may apply like the restraining orders do. Also the beach at the house isn't public, Elaine specified it was a private beach and the only place where the father let her walk in a bikini.

If they turn up on a private beach then they are trespassing and that's all he need say, her plan would still make her a moron.

In order to get them to turn up she would have to set that up which is still not a breach of his conditions.

She would need to prove he's been in contact with them and setting up meetings and then supply evidence. And then it would go through courts, then he'd contest it. This could take years during which time they are bleeding money though lawyers.

All she needed to do was not talk to him.

So she'd still be the dumbest antagonist of all time.

We're entering cartoon levels of dumb here.

 

[acewinz]

The condition for the MC to cut ties with Monica and her fam pertain both to seeing them intentionally, socially or romantically. I imagine bumping into them on the street would be fine so long as no prolonged socialization happens from a legal perspective, but in any event we are likely fudging the ability of the laws on inheritance here a bit. It is a story.

In the real world the MC could likely take the money, and immediately hire a dozen lawyers to tear down his fathers rights to retract or even withhold his inheritance on any number of conditions.

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

She coud have done any number of things to keep the beach house away from him. Burn it down for insurance if she knew the plan before hand which is what was assumed in the previous comment.

Does that sound like something this character would do though, really? It doesn't to me but I see your point.

Quick one, why, oh why, would he be banging Elaine and living with Monica?

You were the one that had it in your melon that she was on this journey to bang him? Why would he HAVE to live with her to bang her? That doesn't make sense?

That makes no sense. He has reason to be with Elaine, they are banging, and she has room for him to move in. If they started seeing each other that's what he'd do.

Ok, whether they're banging or NOT is player choice so that's subjective, not objective. And so what if she has room for him? Would you move into some ones place (Whether it was your former home or not) if you had only just started something with someone? That's a tad quick don't you think?

Or is your MC an idiot?

I think I may be an idiot because I have no idea what you mean by this one???

Start a relationship with someone outside of Monica's family yet still live there for no reason and throw away millions.

Now that is solid point, well played.

Wut?

Wut, wut? Again ?

For the Elaine banging journey, yes it's your choice to pursue it but the fact it can be pursued shows she's open to it.

But if you are NOT it doesn't really matter if she is, if it's part of her conditions to bang you and you don't give a shit, well she's out of luck and her conditions are screwed.

You are missing the point though.

What point am I missing? It would help if you fill me in then I can bounce back if I've misunderstood something.

Anyone setting the MC up needs him to stay at Monica's. Flirting, handing over other property, offering a place to live etc... are all in direct opposition of that.

Agreed.

If he stays at Monica's. Elaine gets his money too.

No she doesn't, you're forgetting the third party. We know she didn't know the other mistress (Unless she was lying) so there is nothing at all (at the moment) to suggest she is in league with her. So she wouldn't get his money, his money would be divided between the other two.

If he leaves Monica's he gets it.

True.

The second she starts something with him, he moves into the beach house or even takes her up on her offer of moving in with her, he's won his conditions.

Again, choice ... not absolute. You seem to think that it would be super easy for the MC to just ditch Monica and the girls (Essentially estranged family) like it was nothing. The whole point of getting him back at Monica's was to make it nigh impossible for him to leave again.

It doesn't matter if Elaine's conditions are to fuck the Mc, get close to him, mess his head up completely. He's still won his conditions and walked away with millions because she actively got him away from Monica which, again, would make her the dumbest antagonist ever.

Again though, you assume that just because he's fucking her, he would leave Monica's? He has the beach house yes, but there is dialog with Elaine to the effect of he didn't want to live alone, or wasn't sure what he wanted to do going forward. Now you could be correct if he chose to move in with her.

Jolina and Bella also want him to move out of Monica's and with them to the beach house.

Yup, agreed.

The only people trying to keep him at Monica's are Zarah and Monica then you have Theresa that either hasn't done anything or set her son up to stalk Jenna which would keep the MC there to protect her.

Maybe there is in game dialog I'm missing as I haven't done much on their paths as not interested other than to see how their stuff plays out so I can't say I was paying too much attention to the details but I didn't see anything that had them actively trying to convince him to stay? Were they?

I like your sarcastic tone you bring to the table but you don't seem to like people challenging your opinion on thing's. I'm not trying to be insulting by saying that, just trying to understand where you're coming from.
Sorry for all the wall of text by the way.

 

[Avaron1974]

Maybe there is in game dialog I'm missing as I haven't done much on their paths as not interested other than to see how their stuff plays out so I can't say I was paying too much attention to the details but I didn't see anything that had them actively trying to convince him to stay? Were they?

They have all tried to convince him to stay since he told them of his will conditions.

I like your sarcastic tone you bring to the table but you don't seem to like people challenging your opinion on thing's. I'm not trying to be insulting by saying that, just trying to understand where you're coming from.
Sorry for all the wall of text by the way.

I'm not against my opinion being challenged i'm against people fighting against common sense.

Why would he start a relationship with someone else yet live in Monica's house while having a home of his own and his own life with his new lover to start?

It makes no sense.

Sure it's all down to player choice but it still defies logic.

Start a relationship with Jolina, she wants to live at the beach house with him like he offers on her route but instead he says "nah love, you go live there on your own i'm just gonna throw a few million away and live with Monica for no reason whatsoever, i'll see you on Tuesday".

I'm not trying to be snarky with you but your retorts have all been shotgun blasts in the face of common sense.

It probably won't be easy for him to walk way from Monica but he does have his own life to lead with whoever he picks. Unless it happens to be one of those 3 I can't imagine any of the other love interests see much of a future living 2 separate lives.

If he is going to see someone else it makes more sense to take the money, start whatever relationship he wants to start then if he wants to stay friends with those 3 speak to a lawyer and see what can be done.

Someone laying out elaborate plans of Elaine's when all she needed to do was ignore him. Like the last comment, what if Elaine's plan involved the beach house ... for what purpose?

Why go to all that trouble when it probably won't work and ignoring him would have done a better job.

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

They have all tried to convince him to stay since he told them of his will conditions.

I thought you specifically meant Monica and Zarah. I could imaging Monica saying something, but Zarah? I don't recall anything from either, I'd have to replay. My bad.