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Are you secretly a girl in disguise? Because that sounds like something a jealous girlfriend would say.Well you can have her... Honestly Jenna and Bella are the two characters that I find completely unappealing. Everyone else I can see the attraction (even Natasha!) but I just am not a fan of "fake tan girl" and "needy woman".
I don't know that she is going to see going behind her back in the same light as her voyeurism. Especially if the MC is fucking her mother too. We'll have to see how it shakes out. Personally want to see the man-whore route blow up in the player's face leaving him alone except for Wanda, Natasha, or Mabel. It would make it easier to not have contact with Monica and the girls if they hate him
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Finished the two complete runs (Lily + Debbie and Manwhore), now I'll have to take on the others....
I was afraid that I would find this new chapter extremely short, having played the rest of the game all together, it was not particularly long, but I can not say that it was short at all. certainly the large number of LIs feels its weight on these occasions, they are excluded always too many ...
positive judgement with a couple of reservations.
excellent the 3 moments with the three girls (both sexual and convivial), predictable but well done the reaction of Katie who confirms to be a lioness, less predictable the reaction of the two friends who accept to do at least one more ride on the merry-go-round despite Katie's declarations, very very bad that instead there isn't already an opening for the triangle of my heart with Lily and Debbie (having to lie to Lily was terrible)
another small negative note on the scene (which for me is the heart of the episode) is that Katie's desire to make their relationship official is however set aside...
the retcon on the value of the wine bottles also made me turn up my nose a little, it had been a nice little joke, why cancel it?
let's move on to the most controversial scene: the reunion with Jolina. excluding how much of an octopus Jolina is if we're not in a relationship with her I think the scene is correct. Jenna (and possibly MC) have really wronged her, that they give her carte blanche for punishment is acceptable, and it's also fair that Jenna wants to stay and complains if MC doesn't. what makes the scene annoying is that no one really trusts Jenna, no one believes that her goal is to make amends (actually she confesses herself that she went there with a dream in her drawer), if MC has any kind of relationship with Jolina it's thanks to Jenna, who has continuously stressed how much she appreciates the blonde physically, but for MC's sake she's ready for an encore, just for MC's sake eh. she was already a manipulative stalker before MC's arrival, now she has become a stalker, manipulator, exhibitionist and nymphomaniac... good job
the scene with Natasha is practically a joke, it's true that it doesn't paint a perfect picture depending on how we get there, but it should be taken as a funny moment, without loading it too much
finally, the scene with Elaine, i found it a bit cumbersome, not very natural, the request she makes to MC doesn't make sense, and the motivation (the emotional value of a house where all the memories she talks about are negative...) isn't believable. it's probably related to her conditions on the will, even the fact that it becomes a blackmail for the player to access or not to have sex doesn't improve the situation. the sex scene is very good, even if i found the guilt variant unusually weak.
and finally the twist that isn't a twist, either it was Elaine or a character we didn't know, the fact that it's Elaine is really not significant, she could very well say that she did it to avoid MC being alone, and it would still be believable... interesting will only be the scene that will open the next chapter in case MC sleeps with her, I would like a good fight.
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I was afraid that I would find this new chapter extremely short, having played the rest of the game all together, it was not particularly long, but I can not say that it was short at all. certainly the large number of LIs feels its weight on these occasions, they are excluded always too many ...
positive judgement with a couple of reservations.
excellent the 3 moments with the three girls (both sexual and convivial), predictable but well done the reaction of Katie who confirms to be a lioness, less predictable the reaction of the two friends who accept to do at least one more ride on the merry-go-round despite Katie's declarations, very very bad that instead there isn't already an opening for the triangle of my heart with Lily and Debbie (having to lie to Lily was terrible)
another small negative note on the scene (which for me is the heart of the episode) is that Katie's desire to make their relationship official is however set aside...
the retcon on the value of the wine bottles also made me turn up my nose a little, it had been a nice little joke, why cancel it?
let's move on to the most controversial scene: the reunion with Jolina. excluding how much of an octopus Jolina is if we're not in a relationship with her I think the scene is correct. Jenna (and possibly MC) have really wronged her, that they give her carte blanche for punishment is acceptable, and it's also fair that Jenna wants to stay and complains if MC doesn't. what makes the scene annoying is that no one really trusts Jenna, no one believes that her goal is to make amends (actually she confesses herself that she went there with a dream in her drawer), if MC has any kind of relationship with Jolina it's thanks to Jenna, who has continuously stressed how much she appreciates the blonde physically, but for MC's sake she's ready for an encore, just for MC's sake eh. she was already a manipulative stalker before MC's arrival, now she has become a stalker, manipulator, exhibitionist and nymphomaniac... good job
the scene with Natasha is practically a joke, it's true that it doesn't paint a perfect picture depending on how we get there, but it should be taken as a funny moment, without loading it too much
finally, the scene with Elaine, i found it a bit cumbersome, not very natural, the request she makes to MC doesn't make sense, and the motivation (the emotional value of a house where all the memories she talks about are negative...) isn't believable. it's probably related to her conditions on the will, even the fact that it becomes a blackmail for the player to access or not to have sex doesn't improve the situation. the sex scene is very good, even if i found the guilt variant unusually weak.
and finally the twist that isn't a twist, either it was Elaine or a character we didn't know, the fact that it's Elaine is really not significant, she could very well say that she did it to avoid MC being alone, and it would still be believable... interesting will only be the scene that will open the next chapter in case MC sleeps with her, I would like a good fight.
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Jenna has a real tan now. I remember rubbing the lotion on her boobs while tanning. Then rubbing her Mom's anus when she stopped me from rubbing Jenna's boobs.Well you can have her... Honestly Jenna and Bella are the two characters that I find completely unappealing. Everyone else I can see the attraction (even Natasha!) but I just am not a fan of "fake tan girl" and "needy woman".
I don't know that she is going to see going behind her back in the same light as her voyeurism. Especially if the MC is fucking her mother too. We'll have to see how it shakes out. Personally want to see the man-whore route blow up in the player's face leaving him alone except for Wanda, Natasha, or Mabel. It would make it easier to not have contact with Monica and the girls if they hate him
Besides the cosplay outfits and voyeuristic and experimental nature she possess make her even hotter.
And stop rooting against us man whores MrFriendly it's very unfriendly.
If the glove don't fit you must acquit. Of course if you put on latex gloves first and don't really try to put the gloves on they aren't going to fit anyway.
Honestly this may sound stupid but I'm starting to trust Elaine. It just seems like everything points to her being the culprit that it would be so obvious that it can't be true. Perhaps I'm thinking to highly about our devs here but I feel like they are sneaky fucks who are intentionally misleading us every step of the way. Just like they keep pushing all these women on me and forcing me to have sex with them all knowing it's going to blow up in my face and make MrFriendly very happy.
I guess I am just not into the sexy nerd thing... Weird, seems right up my alley but Meh...Jenna has a real tan now. I remember rubbing the lotion on her boobs while tanning. Then rubbing her Mom's anus when she stopped me from rubbing Jenna's boobs.
Besides the cosplay outfits and voyeuristic and experimental nature she possess make her even hotter.
And stop rooting against us man whores MrFriendly it's very unfriendly.
Is rooting against the same as being realistic? Because we've been told that it's not going to end well for manwhores in this game...
Or they've shrunk due to liquid absorption...
Even after that reveal? I just don't know, she went from 100% bitch to "let's be friends" too quickly. I mean she was threatening to throw out the MC's belongings, told him not to come back to the house because there was no place for him there, and then suddenly wants to be part of his life? I just find it hard to believe that big of a change. She was never nice to the MC in the entirety of their existence together, continued to be terrible to him up until the initial will reading, and then it's like a switch was flipped and she gave a damn. I just can't trust her...Or her sister.
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you are right, but exactly the same applies to MC with regard to her
and furthermore his action towards Mc remains so chaotic that it can only be spontaneous.
she sends him to Monica by e-mail (99%) but then at the same time she does everything she can to take him away from her and her family (the suspicions about Monica, the constant invitations, the idea of moving to the beach house...)
continuous excuses and promises
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Fair enough. I think the story did say she was originally nice to MC until the Dad put a stop to that and Elaine was always firstly loyal to that Dad or seemed to be. I agree with you that it seems weird that swing of wanting him out of the house at all costs and how she acts after the will reading. Now we do not know what is in the will, but her demands must be pretty horrible to make it easily believable she so quickly reevaluated her life after.
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Yes! Now knock it off.
I'm aware what's going to happen and I have other saves but man whore is just more fun.
The reveal just made it worse. It seems like they are really pushing Elaine as the bad guy and it makes me think that they are misleading us. Yes it would be impossible to trust her in this situation and given her past relationship with the MC it's easy to dislike her. It's just to much. They've heaped so much dirt on her that she has to be a red herring. Cheeky,
Well the MC is controlled by us so he can be as nice or not as we want him to be... She changes tack quickly after the conditions are known. It doesn't scream "honest" in terms of reactions.
And she only "sends" him to Monica in that Monica was the only person that responded to the email she sent. As I've said before the MC has crappy friends if the email went out to everyone and Monica was the only one who responded. Thing is that means that Elaine had Monica's email address unless it went to Monica's business email and that is publicly available.
Yeah, that doesn't put her in a better light. She was initially nice but the abusive/neglectful/asshole she was fucking told her to stop so she did because she loved the asshole and his money. And she stayed a bitch right up until she found out her will conditions. and then "miraculously" she had a change of heart. What if her will condition is that she needs to seduce the MC?Fair enough. I think the story did say she was originally nice to MC until the Dad put a stop to that and Elaine was always firstly loyal to that Dad or seemed to be. I agree with you that it seems weird that swing of wanting him out of the house at all costs and how she acts after the will reading. Now we do not know what is in the will, but her demands must be pretty horrible to make it easily believable she so quickly reevaluated her life after.
Sorry, sorry. I will let you continue... Nevermind the giant iceberg bearing down on you captain!Yes! Now knock it off.
I'm aware what's going to happen and I have other saves but man whore is just more fun.
Maybe... Or maybe they are just as clever as Ace?
I mean after a certain point there has to be an Occam's Razor type of answer, right? Unless they just pull a Scooby Doo and have it that the lawyer pulls off his mask to relieve himself to be the smexy librarian...
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Well I think the will condition has to be worse than having to seduce him or have his baby to make Elaine change her behavior so quickly and likely she would be a bit easier to bed if it was and she just wanted the money.Well the MC is controlled by us so he can be as nice or not as we want him to be... She changes tack quickly after the conditions are known. It doesn't scream "honest" in terms of reactions.
And she only "sends" him to Monica in that Monica was the only person that responded to the email she sent. As I've said before the MC has crappy friends if the email went out to everyone and Monica was the only one who responded. Thing is that means that Elaine had Monica's email address unless it went to Monica's business email and that is publicly available.
Yeah, that doesn't put her in a better light. She was initially nice but the abusive/neglectful/asshole she was fucking told her to stop so she did because she loved the asshole and his money. And she stayed a bitch right up until she found out her will conditions. and then "miraculously" she had a change of heart. What if her will condition is that she needs to seduce the MC?
Sorry, sorry. I will let you continue... Nevermind the giant iceberg bearing down on you captain!
Maybe... Or maybe they are just as clever as Ace?
I mean after a certain point there has to be an Occam's Razor type of answer, right? Unless they just pull a Scooby Doo and have it that the lawyer pulls off his mask to relieve himself to be the smexy librarian...
Now somehow I suspect the will is the last attempt of Dad to form MC in the likeness he always wanted, so I suspect Elaine will have to do something pretty cruel to at least MC to fulfill her condition and likely same for gold digger.
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That's an awfully fucked up will condition for his conservative father to have put in his will.Thank you! Full Steam Ahead!
Yes in life Occam's Razor would be the right approach in what makes the most sense. But in a mystery story usually not the case.Maybe... Or maybe they are just as clever as Ace?
I mean after a certain point there has to be an Occam's Razor type of answer, right? Unless they just pull a Scooby Doo and have it that the lawyer pulls off his mask to relieve himself to be the smexy librarian...
Although I would love that ending.
If I had to give you my clue answer without all the information. Colonel Mustard in the Library with the Candlestick.
Best guess is that Bella is Dizzy and is manipulating everyone including her sister. She used Jolina because they have a relationship and is trying to screw everyone out of the money. I could be completely off base and I still think the beach house plays a part in all this. Why else would Bella and to a lesser extent Jolina be trying to get in there. I say to a lesser extent because Bella asked to stay there Jolina is playing up the damsel in distress hoping we offer it to her as a place to stay. I could be completely off and Elaine is the puppet master using her sister. With what is known it's impossible to really trust Bella or Elaine, but I'm starting to think Elaine isn't as awful as I thought before. Obviously Jolina or a few other people could easily be Dizzy too.
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we know for "certain" that Elaine's condition pertains to the house and MC
which could very trivially be the request that Elaine makes to MC in the last chapter
while we know from Elaine's mouth, that if she were to follow them this would end up splitting the relationship between the two of them anew
Yeah, I think the will is the dad's way of trying to get the MC to care more about money than people. I also think that Elaine knows this and is trying to figure out a way to get what she believes she deserves - the house. I didn't like how she made the MC swear to give her the house no matter what happened. It made me even more suspicious of her and what she is doing with that other lawyer.Well I think the will condition has to be worse than having to seduce him or have his baby to make Elaine change her behavior so quickly and likely she would be a bit easier to bed if it was and she just wanted the money.
Now somehow I suspect the will is the last attempt of Dad to form MC in the likeness he always wanted, so I suspect Elaine will have to do something pretty cruel to at least MC to fulfill her condition and likely same for gold digger.
I just refuse to trust anyone who is fine with the neglectfulness of the dad and did nothing to alleviate it. Bella seems the most obvious third gold digger due to close proximate allowing for opportunity...So Elaine and Bella are the prime candidates for evil... Then again Zarah could destroy Monica if she releases some photos she took of her (and the MC if you go that direction) and she seems like a woman who has been waiting for a man to come along or to "free" himself from his other relationships.
Thank you! Full Steam Ahead!
Yes in life Occam's Razor would be the right approach in what makes the most sense. But in a mystery story usually not the case.
Although I would love that ending.
If I had to give you my clue answer without all the information. Colonel Mustard in the Library with the Candlestick.
Best guess is that Bella is Dizzy and is manipulating everyone including her sister. She used Jolina because they have a relationship and is trying to screw everyone out of the money. I could be completely off base and I still think the beach house plays a part in all this. Why else would Bella and to a lesser extent Jolina be trying to get in there. I say to a lesser extent because Bella asked to stay there Jolina is playing up the damsel in distress hoping we offer it to her as a place to stay. I could be completely off and Elaine is the puppet master using her sister. With what is known it's impossible to really trust Bella or Elaine, but I'm starting to think Elaine isn't as awful as I thought before.
That requires us to believe Elaine is telling us the truth. I don't trust her at all so I don't see a reason to believe her. I'm curious to see what happens next, unfortunately we're going to be waiting awhile.
Just a couple of point son the Elaine debate - mainly from what MrFriendly said:
1. The Email was sent (possibly by Elaine ) before the conditions of the will were announced.
2. We only 'know' the MC's possessions were thrown out by Elaine because Bella told us so.
- Also before the will was revealed.
1. The Email was sent (possibly by Elaine ) before the conditions of the will were announced.
2. We only 'know' the MC's possessions were thrown out by Elaine because Bella told us so.
- Also before the will was revealed.
True, but the lawyer said that one of the other recipient know the conditions of the will, can be Elaine.Just a couple of point son the Elaine debate - mainly from what MrFriendly said:
1. The Email was sent (possibly by Elaine ) before the conditions of the will were announced.
2. We only 'know' the MC's possessions were thrown out by Elaine because Bella told us so.
- Also before the will was revealed.
then again a lady with those tits can't be guilty
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Elaine's conditions couldn't be seducing MC because most of the intimate scenes with her the MC initiates most of the time. If you say the wrong words/an asshole towards her there won't be any scene. If she truly is there to seduce MC she would try and get sexual no matter the circumstance. Elaine's scenes are genuine and brought by passion.
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Like I said before it is possible she is avoiding Jo herself, but having to avoid a coffee visit because of it being on the complete opposite area is not wrong in it self, we don't know how long the drive is and we don't know what time her appointment is or how close we are from it compared to if we were at the coffee shop so this could be legit but like I said he only brings her there a second time and he never actually doubles down. So yes she might be avoiding Jo but I doubt she would be avoiding it because she could possibly be the person that has send the email. She is a mature and smart woman but she is everything but tech savvy and smart in that department so that brings me to the conclusion like I said before, it is possible she has personal beef with Jo. Jo is in to women and from what I have found it seems that she and Bella had or have a thing going but also like I said I doubt Jo is a GD and she is possibly being used. Simply said to get that CCTV it seems Jo needed to pull a Jenna ( in other words a hack ) however she never said she was the one that has done the Hack, she merely said it was done. That brings it in to the same notion of her having found a possible Virus just when Bella encounters the USB, so it is possible that Bella was the one who got rid off or mentioned a Virus being on the laptop so Bella might be the tech savvy one and is the one who provided the footage. When you show Bella a pic of Elaine in the coffeeshop ( even if it is a bit older pic where her hair was longer ) she tells you, it might be possible but she would need a better picture, she never outright confirms or denies Elaine.
That brings me to another thing, with all the time that MC has spend with Elaine he never bothered to get a picture of Elaine and show it to her so that is also stupid on his end I would have done that as soon as possible.
That Email was send at the start of the game before any conditions was known to anyone, including Elaine knowing about the conditions and that there was a third person and that she was being cheated on, she switched the moment she heard about the conditions because it meant she was playing right in to Don's hand by kicking him out.
And we only actually know or heard or think our stuff have actually been thrown out because Bella said so, we never actually have seen that too be the case. And remember if you do mention to Elaine about what bella said, when she said " now you are never going to... " this one is easy at this point, it is not the inheritance perse but more so about her not getting the house. Now why she legit wants the house and just merely the house is a mystery to anyone. Sure Don did not exactly pay any or much attention to her but he never outright abused her either, she merely was there and an annoyance and being threated like sort of a trophy wife of some sort. But she could genuinely have good memories of that house and like the area and just wants new memories. She gives everything else away if she can for just the house. And her conditions are not to seduce the MC but instead to cut ALL contact with the MC she must legit avoid him and discard him as if he never existed and prob even worse since she does say that the conditions make it that it would legit make the MC hate her to her core.
I have pointed this one out already. This game throws you Red herrings and curve balls like no tomorrow. The first with the fortune telling who talks about a sister and a pretty blonde who has a preference for women which makes you think it is about Katie and Debbie and makes it clear that the blonde is warming up to you but is closer to the sister still, this comes right after Debbie comes out to you so your first thought would be oh it's debbie. No it is not, it is tricking you while giving you hints.
The sister and the blonde are Bella and Jolina that is what the whole fortune about the blonde and sister was talking about. It would be weird talking about a sister and a pretty blonde but leave out a damn hot beauty like Lily which never get's pointed out in that whole prophecy, so that whole convo was about Bella and Jo.
The Mother figure who has kept you two apart not by her choice but by the fault of another and she wishes to tell you something but cannot, this part is about Elaine. Not Monica.
There is also a part about Monica in there, that part is that she is one of the obstacles in the way of the MC his money.
And then there is a conversation about the Viper/Dizzy. Short but it comes down to this " She is Dizzy by Name but NOT by Nature " is all we are given on the GD.
The same thing goes for the Lawyer, He tells you and gives you enough information to point out that Elaine is not the GD nor the backstabber. One he said he met/spoken that person only TWICE, he met/spoke with Elaine at least 3 times.
Now here comes to deceiving curveball that happened just like with the fortune telling.
He tells you this person knows and has seen the will and knows about EVERYONE's conditions. He does not know if they spoke to Don about it or if they have found it lying around. And who after that conversation with the lawyer mentions she had a talk about the will with Don ? Elaine. So what does your brain automatically do ? Point fingers to Elaine being that person.
However, here is a few problems with that. If Elaine knew about the conditions, it means Elaine would have known she was being cheated on and that there was a third person involved... Yet she never knew about this until everyone got their conditions. Elaine does not know who the other person is but the person who knows about all the will owners knows exactly who the other owners are. The person who KNOWS about the conditions has a different type of condition to inherit everything.
That condition is not for what she must do for example like Elaine and MC both have to do things to be able to get there will. The third owner of the will does not have requirement she must fill out, no her conditions are more tied to the actions of the MC. And he never pointed out that Elaine could be one of the people who knows about all the wills. He never gave a name.
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You guys really make me smile (in a good way) at all the very serious thought you guys have regarding the plot. I can also say that several of you, especially put together, have all the pieces. I just hope that you still find it as interesting when things start to finally play out.
I just hope that you still find it as interesting when things start to finally play out.
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Oh fuck! After reading this I think he just confirmed that the GD and viper are Jolina and Bella.You guys really make me smile (in a good way) at all the very serious thought you guys have regarding the plot. I can also say that several of you, especially put together, have all the pieces.
Damn now I don't want Jolina any where near my precious little Jenna.