VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 v2024-09-06 BETA] [CheekyGimp]

[acewinz]

Things are as active as ever here I see.

who the fuck is acewinz

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While I'm inclined to agree with Ava.
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A question we ask ourselves every day.

I'm just an amateur writer/grade A pervert that Cheeky seems content to leave in charge of PR and bossing CellStudios our artist around. A dangerous combination...

For those that are new around here, Cheeky and acewinz are a few of the best devs here. I can only think of a handful among many hundreds I am aware of who are as concientious and open with the fans. Devs don't have to hang around F95 and chat with all their fans (and deal with the trolls), so they should be given a huge amount of credit for doing so. Ultimately, I think being involved in the community here helps their games, and helps build support, it certainly does with me, but not all devs see it that way.

I get the frustration, in general, when much loved games are delayed, but unlike some devs, Cheeky and ace have always gone out of their way to communicate with all of us, and it is very much appreciated.

And don't minimize the impact of health issues on development. It is not like a typical office job where you show up, deal with paperwork, read and write emails, or sit in meetings all day. It takes creativity, and your mind to be in the right place, to build scenes, write dialog, and make the story flow cohesively. It is easy when you are young and healthy to scoff at all the devs with health issues, but that is real life for most people, and you will certainly experience it yourself someday. The fact that devs can deal with their health, and still find the time and enthusiasm to continue developing their games for the enjoyment of all of us, should be applauded, not criticised.

So, unless you just like to step all over a good thing, just for the fun of it, you really should direct your criticism about delays elsewhere. Cheeky and ace are really some of the good ones, and should be commended.

Plus, Where the Heart Is has a huge amount of content, and every release is very lengthy compared to most games here, so if it takes them an extra month or even 5 or 6, it will be excellent as usual I am sure.

While I was obviously more concerned about Cheeky when he got sick, it was also in my mind that our patreon would take a big hit when we had to pause. I've seen it happen before to plenty of games here good and bad. I was thankfully wrong in our case and posts like this, and the patience and devotion of our fans that have stuck with us through the hard times is exactly why we want and enjoy (on the whole) being involved here and making WTHI.

So just thanks all!

This last Sunday Cheeky and I spent about 4 hours talking about the game and things. While he isn't fully recovered, he is anxious to get back to work and we have a lot in store for you. Things that will knock some socks off I think, and I have a feeling it will ignite some conclusions that will make poor Avaron1974 have to go back to crushing dreams in the forum. (I know she misses it anyway)

I started a new run starting from the beginning (as a sign of my total trust in the words of the developers) and I must say that actually the presentation of Monica's character is worse than I remember (if I'm not wrong I talked about it with Machete) not considering the misunderstanding of the stuffed swimming costume, that has to be taken for what it is, a comic moment, in the whole initial part Monica is really described in a not very fair way, the shadow of alcoholism, she is always ready to beg for a compliment, to bend over or lean out in a provocative way, in the end Zarah has more dignity

I repeat: I'm talking exclusively about the first chapters, in which she is by far the character who drools the most over MC, and while for Katie and Jenna it is acceptable that they have an "old" crush on MC, for Monica this is much less acceptable.

then at a certain point the story gets going, and Monica remains one of my favorite characters, but I must admit that it starts really badly

Yeah, WTHI is definitely a gem in the rough at the start. Monica included. Cheeky was a one man team then and finding his feet in everything, but keep in mind, Monica was also in probably a very tough spot in life when the MC came along at the start.

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[CheekyGimp]

on hold , on hold, abbandoned, 3 games on plate and no one finished...i'm starting to beiung a bit upset of these behaviour form devs.

However shall I sleep tonight knowing Indio is mad at me? I will try to repair this life-impacting relationship breakdown with this jewel of humanity by making the following points.

1) I've been sick and still am. Although I am feeling a little better these days so I have gotten back to work on the game. (Still out of work in my real job in case you're concerned)
2) We write >8K lines per episode and this takes time even without pausing the game due to point 1 above. Based on the amount of errors and typos you managed to squeeze into a single sentence, I hope you now understand the magnitude of 8K lines?
3) 3 games? Hmm...Maths isn't my strong suit so let me try..... WTHI = 1.....Re-count.....WTHI = 1. Oh, I forgot about WTHI so that's a total of.....1. Maybe maths isn't your strong suit either? Although you're obviously a master of the written word so you can't have it all..
3) Did I have a point 3 already? Sorry, maths isn't my strong suit.
4) The game is not abbb..., abb... (Does abbbaondend have 4 'b's or 5 ? I can't remember...Can't be bothered to check). The game has not been abbb... cancelled and is no longer on hold.

Apologies for the delay. It took me a while to get the crux of your cleverly coded message as I had to use google translate four times, the Rosetta stone twice, the enigma machine and I even roped in Koko the sign-language gorilla to help me so we got there in the end.

Hopefully this heartfelt response has restored your faith in me and you will be around in my garden for afternoon tea every second Sunday like before.

P.S. Koko is "beiung" upset at your lack of punctuation. He also said something about a thousand monkeys on a thousand typewriters couldn't come up with as many typos. I didn't really get his joke as it was too high-brow for me but I'm sure you'll get it and can share with your friends in the research lab tomorrow.


For every one else - Thanks for the nice messages and ongoing support. Hopefully we'll get a bit of momentum going this month. And I know a group of you got together to create the fake user and this ludicrous troll message. You overdid the typos (there's nobody out there that bad). But you know I'm a sucker for trolls so thanks for helping coax me out from under my rock as you know I just wouldn't be able to resist replying.

CG

 

[acewinz]

However shall I sleep tonight knowing Indio is mad at me? I will try to repair this life-impacting relationship breakdown with this jewel of humanity by making the following points.

1) I've been sick and still am. Although I am feeling a little better these days so I have gotten back to work on the game. (Still out of work in my real job in case you're concerned)
2) We write >8K lines per episode and this takes time even without pausing the game due to point 1 above. Based on the amount of errors and typos you managed to squeeze into a single sentence, I hope you now understand the magnitude of 8K lines?
3) 3 games? Hmm...Maths isn't my strong suit so let me try..... WTHI = 1.....Re-count.....WTHI = 1. Oh, I forgot about WTHI so that's a total of.....1. Maybe maths isn't your strong suit either? Although you're obviously a master of the written word so you can't have it all..
3) Did I have a point 3 already? Sorry, maths isn't my strong suit.
4) The game is not abbb..., abb... (Does abbbaondend have 4 'b's or 5 ? I can't remember...Can't be bothered to check). The game has not been abbb... cancelled and is no longer on hold.

Apologies for the delay. It took me a while to get the crux of your cleverly coded message as I had to use google translate four times, the Rosetta stone twice, the enigma machine and I even roped in Koko the sign-language gorilla to help me so we got there in the end.

Hopefully this heartfelt response has restored your faith in me and you will be around in my garden for afternoon tea every second Sunday like before.

P.S. Koko is "beiung" upset at your lack of punctuation. He also said something about a thousand monkeys on a thousand typewriters couldn't come up with as many typos. I didn't really get his joke as it was too high-brow for me but I'm sure you'll get it and can share with your friends in the research lab tomorrow.


For every one else - Thanks for the nice messages and ongoing support. Hopefully we'll get a bit of momentum going this month. And I know a group of you got together to create the fake user and this ludicrous troll message. You overdid the typos (there's nobody out there that bad). But you know I'm a sucker for trolls so thanks for helping coax me out from under my rock as you know I just wouldn't be able to resist replying.

CG

Haha, definitely feeling a little better eh boss? Got the fire going.

 

[CheekyGimp]

Haha, definitely feeling a little better eh boss? Got the fire going.

It's good practice and I'm still rusty. And unlike the game, I don't have to worry about if statements and variable checks so it's nice to get a free-flowing rant out.

 

[CheekyGimp]

I started a new run starting from the beginning (as a sign of my total trust in the words of the developers) and I must say that actually the presentation of Monica's character is worse than I remember (if I'm not wrong I talked about it with Machete) not considering the misunderstanding of the stuffed swimming costume, that has to be taken for what it is, a comic moment, in the whole initial part Monica is really described in a not very fair way, the shadow of alcoholism, she is always ready to beg for a compliment, to bend over or lean out in a provocative way, in the end Zarah has more dignity

I repeat: I'm talking exclusively about the first chapters, in which she is by far the character who drools the most over MC, and while for Katie and Jenna it is acceptable that they have an "old" crush on MC, for Monica this is much less acceptable.

then at a certain point the story gets going, and Monica remains one of my favorite characters, but I must admit that it starts really badly

Yep, Couldn't agree more. Those early episodes were really just a rough draft / practice (same for the renders). I never had any intention of those being finished products but then the game took off and I never got a chance to polish them a little. A re-write (and re-render) of the earlier episodes is definitely part of my plans.

 

[zajaz]

You know what? I'm starting to think Cheeky and Ace might be the same person...

Maybe even split personalities of the same individual.

Evidence? Just trust me, guys.

 

[CheekyGimp]

You know what? I'm starting to think Cheeky and Ace might be the same person...

Maybe even split personalities of the same individual.

Evidence? Just trust me, guys.

Ace and I have said the very same thing to each other.
In the mirror.

 

[acewinz]

You know what? I'm starting to think Cheeky and Ace might be the same person...

Maybe even split personalities of the same individual.

Evidence? Just trust me, guys.

Ace and I have said the very same thing to each other.
In the mirror.

It is crazy! Early on when we were just starting to work together and we often kept coming up with the same ideas for scenarios it was a bit freaky. We only finish about half of each others sentences thankfully, so there is some room for creativity. I think we just grew up in the same "era" while consuming all the same media. Definitely a case study here of one sort or another.

 

[zajaz]

It is crazy! Early on when we were just starting to work together and we often kept coming up with the same ideas for scenarios it was a bit freaky. We only finish about half of each others sentences thankfully, so there is some room for creativity. I think we just grew up in the same "era" while consuming all the same media. Definitely a case study here of one sort or another.

*In a dark and seemingly solitary room*

Ace: How did you know what I was thinking?

Cheeky: Can't you guess? After all this time? All the things that have happened? All the hints that I have dropped?

Ace: You mean that...

Cheeky: Yes, Ace. I'm you.

Ace: How...?

Cheeky: Just think about it...

*Cue Fight Club-like flashback*

 

[ename144]

Yep, Couldn't agree more. Those early episodes were really just a rough draft / practice (same for the renders). I never had any intention of those being finished products but then the game took off and I never got a chance to polish them a little. A re-write (and re-render) of the earlier episodes is definitely part of my plans.

Hang on, a rerelease of the early episodes sounds nice and all, but the devil's in the details. I'm not going to need to make "Monica Shot First!" t-shirts, am I?

(Glad to see your recovering is continuing, Cheeky!)

 

[Construct]

Wow what a nice text maybe you should put this effort in those 8k lines of text instead to bother with the "troll", wow for one that claims he's sick comming here making very funny sarcastic jokes i would think that one has others problems when sick like i dunno tending to his health maybe, eh boss?

What I don‘t get is why you feel the need to defend a random 2 line comment from a person you will likely never hear from ever again and jump on a post from a developer who is clearly just letting off some steam. To me Cheekys post was more like a „getting out of bed and stretching for the first time after a long period of not being able to move at all“ thing, while your post just screams entitlement a la „if you can post here, you can work on the next update you milking piece of shit“.
Not trying to whiteknight for the dev, but your comment is just nasty.

 

[felicemastronzo]

pull yourself together!! both developers have answered you, stay calm and breathe!!!

Yeah, WTHI is definitely a gem in the rough at the start. Monica included. Cheeky was a one man team then and finding his feet in everything, but keep in mind, Monica was also in probably a very tough spot in life when the MC came along at the start.

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I wasn't making it a problem of realism, but of "desirability", a middle-aged woman with a little alcohol problem and disoriented by her economic vicissitudes is credible and realistic, only, that at least for me, she is not particularly fascinating. "Ethically" MC should reject her, he is quite aware of her situation.

their story starts "worse" than the others

 

[HSHS1111]

Things that will knock some socks off I think, and I have a feeling it will ignite some conclusions that will make poor @Avaron1974 have to go back to crushing dreams in the forum. (I know she misses it anyway)

Yeah, for a self-proclaimed sub she sure does take a lot of delight in putting others down.

 

[Dragon59]

Yeah, for a self-proclaimed sub she sure does take a lot of delight in putting others down.

I know quite a few subs who have a sharp tongue. Especially one I know who identifies as a Brat and is writing a "Guide to Brats and Brat Tamers" book. She's the inspiration for a future "Unicorn" project.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Yeah, for a self-proclaimed sub she sure does take a lot of delight in putting others down.

Sub for her snookums, fire haired terror for the rest

 

[t3alqdansam]

What I don‘t get is why you feel the need to defend a random 2 line comment from a person you will likely never hear from ever again and jump on a post from a developer who is clearly just letting off some steam. To me Cheekys post was more like a „getting out of bed and stretching for the first time after a long period of not being able to move at all“ thing, while your post just screams entitlement a la „if you can post here, you can work on the next update you milking piece of shit“.
Not trying to whiteknight for the dev, but your comment is just nasty.

Just a note. The poster you refer to is consistent in approach. I literally looked at who and knew the jist. Scary isn't it. The opportunity to be a troll is never ignored. That is the only real value added. The poster fills a niche. I totally agree with your assessment of said post even though it is unreadable to me. DOH!

 

[Ahx]

Are you for real, you should ask yourself how come this dev has the energy to write such a long text to someone who considers a "troll" will likely never hear from

I'm sure that the dev said he was a sucker for trolls....or Did i misread that too..?........whatever.....

if you have the energy for that you God damn should have the energy for those 8k lines too, right?

Come on now.....that was just a post with a bunch of couple of lines.....the dev did just say that he was sick...and still is......and it's obvious that he doesn't have the energy for those 8k lines right now....(8000...lines..seriously?)

How do you know that guy wasn't blowing some steam off too, maybe i was doing that too when i wrote that or only them devs are allowed to do that?

wasn't gonna make any comment here...but gotta say ..you guys have a weird way of blowing off some steam

Btw that's exactly what you was doing, whiteknighting...

wait...Does that mean i'm whiteknighting the Construct guy right now...........OH....Bite me

 

[LionHeart 95]

I Will be a White Knight today for CheekyGimp and his team.

Why because; Self entitled Sub-humans think that it’s better to trash talk effort and bad to standup or support for something or someone.

If someone can write over 8,000 lines a simple post is of little effort. By the way chapter 20 is over 10,500 lines and the average word is 5 letters long so it’s easy for humans to read and sub-humans too, I think!

In those lines are the paths one might choose some to be an outright ass, others may choose the path to be loving and protective.

Some DEVs only give fake choices “Where The Heart Is” truly has separate paths to follow. Some here try them all. But others might just want to be only the Ass never giving love back to those who give it. If you read this, ask yourself what path I chose. The rest of us know which one was chosen, can you be honest with thyself?

Be thankful towards others who make the effort to be loving and caring. It maybe easy to type a few lines, but I know it isn’t easy to return to life when you struck by a sickness that beats down your entire body. I’m sorry that sub-humans are not loved by their mommy but us humans care for others and when one we love is sick, we will fight for them while they recover. Even fierce looking redheads who maybe hard on the outside but I’m sure she is warm and cuddly on the inside. Not to mention Cheeky whom stopped taking money, posted through friends, posted game status himself all while in pain doing so. CheekyGimp a Troll, I think not! more like “Thug life”

 

[Avaron1974]

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You should be happy hun, there hasn't been 2 of us like this since Notty left the site.

just imagine it my dove, me in some threads, her in others ... snarky tarts for all the forum.

It would be glorious.

 

[Snugglepuff]

You should be happy hun, there hasn't been 2 of us like this since Notty left the site.

just imagine it my dove, me in some threads, her in others ... snarky tarts for all the forum.

It would be glorious.

I think this may become my only actual fetish. Not sure if a good thing, or bad... Or what that says about me!