VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[OnyxShadow]

For you maybe...I don't play AVN's for the sex content, that's just a nice bonus.

It's far more realistic then 99% of the shit that's made in this genre. What's unrealistic is three women with no sharing tendancies by default (you have to make sure that happens) all wanting to fuck you (and each other)...that's pure fantasy

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you aren't here FOR the sex content why aren't you playing better games?

I think the point is that even if (as you suggest) this game is more realistic than most its still a wildly irrational scenario. It does not follow the rules of our world...and I think we generally prefer it that way. Our world sucks.

 

[Snugglepuff]

But when a fairly unremarkable MC can show up fresh somewhere and successfully hook up with 15 different girls within a couple weeks...its a porn game.

By that logic, the Witcher games are porn games...

 

[HornyyPussy]

why the remaster btw?

Sigh....for the 157th time, to get it ready for a Steam launch.

 

[AlexMpog]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you aren't here FOR the sex content why aren't you playing better games?

And vice versa, if you're are into sex content only - why aren't you on a proper porn website?
Sex content on those websites is much more realistic.

 

[HornyyPussy]

And vice versa, if you're are into sex content only - why aren't you on a proper porn website?
Sex content on those websites is much more realistic.

Case and point!

Case closed!

 

[OnyxShadow]

By that logic, the Witcher games are porn games...

Geralt isn't exactly unremarkable...

 

[elsanna_iduna]

For you maybe...I don't play AVN's for the sex content, that's just a nice bonus.

It's far more realistic then 99% of the shit that's made in this genre. What's unrealistic is three women with no sharing tendancies by default (you have to make sure that happens) all wanting to fuck you (and each other)...that's pure fantasy

Do they fuck each other? Lezcest?

 

[HornyyPussy]

Do they fuck each other? Lezcest?

Nope, still no incest

 

[OnyxShadow]

And vice versa, if you're are into sex content only - why aren't you on a proper porn website?
Sex content on those websites is much more realistic.

I was responding to "I don't play AVN's for the sex content, that's just a nice bonus."

I never suggested that the sex content was the only thing I was here for.

For the record, the build up of the story/characters and the challenge of the game format are compelling to me.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

why the remaster btw? and are they not going to continue with the original anymore?

Because it has updated graphics and made the story easier for them. It's still more or less the samish game with some minor changes here and there...and yes it will eventually come to what the original is around November.

 

[motseer]

Real Quickly:

1. Mon/Zarah are exclusive to each other.
2. Katie/Debbie/Lily exclusive to each other and even then, Katie needs a whole boat load of convincing and still isn't terribly happy about it. Neither is Lily for that matter either and only does...only...purely for you.
3. Wanda/Angel, again like Mon/Zarah....exclusive to each other. They are NOT happy to share...not in the fucking least....they will accept each other at best if you don't fuck it up (and go ahead...fuck it up...see how happy they really are about sharing you).
4. Jolina.....exclusive to Jenna.
5. Jenna...the only single LI that is most at ease with sharing you.

No other LI will.....none. Even with the sharing girls, you are actually cheating on them until they find out/accept it. Even the ones you're cheating on (and yes, you are cheating on them) that have not discovered about each other until Ep 23....will not be happy going into the last episode.

Enough with this fucking bullshit idealogy that they are ALL happy with sharing (and thus it should be a harem), because they are not.

Imma be a bit cautious with my wording here... I recall there being some talk about a "partial harem" ending which, in essence involved a general acceptance of Jenna as part of the Katie, Debbie, Lilly group. I also recall some talk about others (depending on who MC allows to stay at the beach house) being "tolerated" by one another. Now, what I am sure of is that CG never gave a definitive answer but was considering possibilities. So, the safe bet is to approach it as you say, "monogamy" is the rule, polygamy is the exception, in this story. All in all it's wait and see for the final chapter...

Jolina also seems to accept Bella and vice versa

Jolina and Bella have some history as well as being in cahoots for the inheritance. In the first iteration of the story I didn't believe half of what they said were their reasons for their behavior and ran them on down the road. Having gotten that far in the story makes it difficult for me to even give either of them the time of day in subsequent play throughs. 'Course, that's just me.

That's my biggest issue with the out of nowhere "Let's remaster it for steam" decision.

That decision might have seemed "out of nowhere" for you but, I doubt it was that way for the dev. They gotta make a living, man. Overall this rework will have encompassed less than 6 months since the release of chapter 24 if they keep to the announced schedule. That seems pretty efficient to me and it didn't really come as a surprise since they talked about the possibility quite a lot before making a final decision.

Sigh....for the 157th time, to get it ready for a Steam launch.

Only 157 huh? Your gonna make me think the average IQ around here has increased drastically.

 

[Maviarab]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you aren't here FOR the sex content why aren't you playing better games?

Why should I? (but I do anyway...but define better, half the shit released in the alst 10 years...actual 'games' are shit...much like the modern film industry...I prefer to play 20+ year old games). VN's are just an extension and evolution of comics and Graphic Novels....and yes, I 'play' a lot of Non sexual VN's too...

Now, is there any other point you'd like to try and make?

Imma be a bit cautious with my wording here... I recall there being some talk about a "partial harem" ending which, in essence involved a general acceptance of Jenna as part of the Katie, Debbie, Lilly group. I also recall some talk about others (depending on who MC allows to stay at the beach house) being "tolerated" by one another. Now, what I am sure of is that CG never gave a definitive answer but was considering possibilities. So, the safe bet is to approach it as you say, "monogamy" is rule, polygamy is the exception, in this story. All in all it's wait and see for the final chapter...

Not seen anything from Cheeky himself regarding Jenna joining the quintuplet union. There is nothing else planned in the base game...more than there already is. All cheeky has confirmed (and I have posted his Discord post here) is that as a bonus non-canon ending (after the game is finished) is a Moni/Jen/Katie pairing....after...the game is finished...and non-cannon...just for the fans who want it.


As for any Bella/Jolina pairing...it's volatile at best. Neither 'want' to share you (just like every other girl, their default stance is jealous and no-sharing, Jenna is the exception, you have to work for the sharing...I will die on this damn hill)....even if in relationship with Jolina.....the revelation pretty much kills any throuple there anyway.....it's not a good example for anyone to use of 'all the girls are happy to share the MC's magic cock imo.

 

[motseer]

Why should I? (but I do anyway...but define better, half the shit released in the alst 10 years...actual 'games' are shit...much like the modern film industry...I prefer to play 20+ year old games). VN's are just an extension and evolution of comics and Graphic Novels....and yes, I 'play' a lot of Non sexual VN's too...

Now, is there any other point you'd like to try and make?


Not seen anything from Cheeky himself regarding Jenna joining the quintuplet union. There is nothing else planned in the base game...more than there already is. All cheeky has confirmed (and I have posted his Discord post here) is that as a bonus non-canon ending (after the game is finished) is a Moni/Jen/Katie pairing....after...the game is finished...and non-cannon...just for the fans who want it.


As for any Bella/Jolina pairing...it's volatile at best. Neither 'want' to share you (just like every other girl, their default stance is jealous and no-sharing, Jenna is the exception, you have to work for the sharing...I will die on this damn hill)....even if in relationship with Jolina.....the revelation pretty much kills any throuple there anyway.....it's not a good example for anyone to use of 'all the girls are happy to share the MC's magic cock imo.

Yeah, and therein lies the reason for my caution. I almost didn't even say anything about it at all. In most cases (this one included) my information is 3rd, 4th, 5th hand since it all comes from this thread. Just like the reply you just made. In a month I'm liable to think I have a reason to repeat what you just said because I consider you a reliable source... doesn't mean it will be right. Just right to the best of my knowledge. Then there is always the possibility that I have mis-remembered. Wait... No... That can't be right.

 

[Maviarab]

Why should I? (but I do anyway...but define better, half the shit released in the alst 10 years...actual 'games' are shit...much like the modern film industry...I prefer to play 20+ year old games). VN's are just an extension and evolution of comics and Graphic Novels....and yes, I 'play' a lot of Non sexual VN's too...

I would also add on to this (thinking while I had a coffee) that:

Do you really play VN's? Are they really a game? They are more like the old Choose Your Own Adventure/Fantasy Play books, of which I have a large collection which I still read to this day. Grailquest...Lone Wolf...loved them. Again, just an extension of those for a different market and 'AVNs' have sex scenes in them? I don't know about you, but I stopped jerking off to pictures and shitty animated stuff over 40 years ago....maybe they still get you off, I dunno, you do you I guess but again, not why I like VN's.

I also love the art. I've been using Daz/Poser myself for over 20 years....like Comics > VN's....Daz is just an extension of pinup and fantasy art from yesteryear (I still love Vellajo, Royo, Giger and Francis work etc) , which I've also had an interest in for a long ass time. I understand the work, effort, time and skill involved in making good renders...so I appreciate the medium. There are a lot of damn good story-tellers around the VN world. are they good writers also? Most are not no, but they have the story...and this is a perfect medium for them to tell said story that would perhaps not work elsewhere.

So play better 'games'? As said before, like Hollywood, most 'games' out in the last ten plus years are fucking recycled garbage for the idiot masses with no attention spans (much like every itteration of later D%D editions). *shrugs*....obviously I read these for very different reasons to many other people and would suspect, am also older than the majority of people who like this genre medium too.


Disclaimer: That's not to say I don't play some AVN's purely to see how ridiculous and depraved some of the scenes are. They are fun things to read/watch but those are very much the exception.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Nope, still no incest

Only 157 huh? Your gonna make me think the average IQ around here has increased drastically.

I would also add on to this (thinking while I had a coffee) that:

Wow, you guys have been having so much fun, while I was blissfully snoring my head off. What a shame I slept through it all.

 

[Dessolos]

I could not agree more with was being said. When I started to play AVN's I stopped cold turkey playing regular games for about 6 months till I picked them up again. I still enjoy them but it's rare for me to find one now days where I just want to keep playing and find out what happens next. But with AVN's ive had moments like alot more , even ones that aren't good.

But I will say this is one of the better ones where I just couldn't want to see what comes next not because the story is amazing. But all the characters are well crafted even the ones I dont like that I really enjoy spending time with most of them. Then add all the replayability and branching this game offers. So when this game finally ends it's gonna be a sad day that there is no more as I really enjoy the interactions with the characters in this game alot more than most out there.

not my ranking of the girls but just how much I enjoyed spending time with them : I say I like interactions with Wanda the most followed by Jenna , Katie , Bella , Debbie not sure about the rest but those ones stood out to be the most

 

[Maviarab]

Wow, you guys have been having so much fun, while I was blissfully snoring my head off. What a shame I slept through it all.

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Damn slackers....

I could not agree more with was being said. When I started to play AVN's I stopped cold turkey playing regular games for about 6 months till I picked them up again. I still enjoy them but it's rare for me to find one now days where I just want to keep playing and find out what happens next. But with AVN's ive had moments like alot more , even ones that aren't good.

But I will say this is one of the better ones where I just couldn't want to see what comes next not because the story is amazing. But all the characters are well crafted even the ones I dont like that I really enjoy spending time with most of them. Then add all the replayability and branching this game offers. So when this game finally ends it's gonna be a sad day that there is no more as I really enjoy the interactions with the characters in this game alot more than most out there.

 

[AlexMpog]

Wow, you guys have been having so much fun, while I was blissfully snoring my head off. What a shame I slept through it all.

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welp, my turn now, I'm going to bed.

Have fun!

 

[Snugglepuff]

Geralt isn't exactly unremarkable...

Neither is this game's MC.
No, not even "fairly unremarkable", and you provided the argument for that already...

In your own words;

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He can hook up with 15 different women, including a lesbian who goes "straightish" for him, sweet talk his way into their pants and even convince some of them to be in group-relationships with him, all whilst being involved in a schemer's efforts to cheat him out of his inheretance that he himself can breach the terms for.

The setting, the situations, none of that happens to unremarkable people, not even "fairly" unremarkable.

Hell, Johnny Sins is more unremarkable than this game's MC, and he's male a pornstar!

 

[Better Cock Spock]

He can hook up with 15 different women, including a lesbian who goes "straightish" for him, sweet talk his way into their pants and even convince some of them to be in group-relationships with him

That's my favorite genre of AVN