VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 v2024-09-06 BETA] [CheekyGimp]

[Arassei]

I finished the current game (14 episodes)
I have to say I am impressed, for now. I hope it will continue like this.
But I have a few observations.

Monica
I think it's good to clarify who is right and who is wrong about Monica and the father, with evidence. This is not a choice that the player must make, it is a revelation that the story must tell him. I do not think it's useful to say it, but Monica must be right, otherwise the game is dead.

Elaine
Honestly, I do not really like the fact that Elaine is a woman to conquer. As a general rule, I do not touch the women my family members have fucked. In a game like "Milf City", it works, because Linda doesn't give a shit about her husband But here, Elaine loved the father, and it does not work too much... In addition to that, almost every action that the player does to Elaine reminds her of the father, like with the short-swimsuit.

Tommy
From the first second I saw him, I knew it was going to end badly with him. But I did not think Jenna was so naive. The MC should have explained to her from the start why this guy could be bad enough, to make her understand, not just tell her he did not like Tommy.

Dizzy
Honestly, I do not think it's Monica anymore.
I do not think it's Angel either.
I think this is a new character, at least I hope, because I have no desire to learn that one of my women is a traitor.

Actually, the MC realizes that his life is getting more and more complicated, especially after Jenna's sentence "be open and honest to each other" This kind of game usually leads to a harem route, and in this one, it must definitely be the case, because every girl we meet has a very specific character and is very clearly distinguished from others, and it's impossible to choose one.
Congratulations to the Devs for doing that.
If I can afford some advice, I would say that the best way to have the harem route would be to get women interested in each other. Jenna to her mother, Katie to her mother, Monica to her daughters, etc. Exactly like Katie to Lily and Debbie on the beach scene.

Finally, I would say that the real hero of the game is the illness that killed the father.

 

[Jonboy72]

I to think this is a great game and look forward to seeing what happens in the future

 

[CheekyGimp]

Well, since there is a definetaly a lack of cum visuals - no assets? cant figure how to incorporate it properly i dont know - why dont he just replace the "CUM" option in sex scenes with a "finish scene" one ?

I mean, c'mon man. Not even the basics, and we ve come so far , it is so anticlimatic.

We have plenty of CUM assets and we have had a few cum scenes previously. I just don't want every episode to end in cumming on tits or faces or asses because usually that's not the case when it actually comes to sex. I know that's what always happens in pornos but not in RL. I'll do it if it fits the scene but won't do it in every scene.
And remember what works for you doesn't mean it's what everyone wants. Lots of people prefer the cum inside option (especially those with an impregnation fetish), so don't assume just because it's anticlimactic for you that it's because we are not bothering with "the basics" or we don't have the assets. And even if the majority wanted it I still may not do it if it doesn't fit the scene. Not all women actually like it when a guy cums on their face and the girls in this game are no different.

 

[WaltS]

We have plenty of CUM assets and we have had a few cum scenes previously. I just don't want every episode to end in cumming on tits or faces or asses because usually that's not the case when it actually comes to sex. I know that's what always happens in pornos but not in RL. I'll do it if it fits the scene but won't do it in every scene.
And remember what works for you doesn't mean it's what everyone wants. Lots of people prefer the cum inside option (especially those with an impregnation fetish), so don't assume just because it's anticlimactic for you that it's because we are not bothering with "the basics" or we don't have the assets. And even if the majority wanted it I still may not do it if it doesn't fit the scene. Not all women actually like it when a guy cums on their face and the girls in this game are no different.

Well, I for one don't have an impregnation / pregnancy fetish yet I prefer 'cum inside' as that is what resembles RL most. So CheekyGimp keep on it and let us have our fun any way you imagine it on the screen...

 

[CheekyGimp]

So is there a repository somewhere that holds plots and storylines because after watching a few these stories I get deja vu. The story of the perv I'm sure will be visit his mother, bang his mother and take pictures etc saw it in another story recently. Everybody for some reason think that they(and not the character in the story) are personally going to bang the mother but you know thats the hook and you aint getting that until the last update. Same goes for all of the mother and two sister, three sister stories and ther are many. Even thier personalities are the same, cute sister, curious sister, bad sister. And the mother always has a deformed body. I played Lust Epidemic recently and can see why the updates would take time after all they are not just images and text with the odd gif thrown in. While waiting for all of these games to update I watched two guys near me build a three bedroom house from scratch to fit out in three months. I know the level of adulation here means you you're not allowed an opinion but I know text and images ain't like building a house.

Of course you're allowed an opinion and you just expressed one. And I cannot say you're right or wrong because... it's YOUR opinion.

But what I can say is I spent two years in construction after I left college and in my opinion building a house is a whole heap easier to learn and to do than game development. But that's just me. I never spent hours looking at tutorials online trying to figure out how to mix cement, lay blocks or cut wood. But I've spent months trying to figure out DAz/Renpy and I still have a LOT to learn. After 2 years I considered myself pretty adept at most aspects of construction, including the electricals.
The only thing I actually found difficult was plastering - I never got the hang of doing that well no matter how much I practiced.
But after 2 years of game development, I'd still consider myself a rookie.


So all I'd say is give both a go and then let me know if your opinion changes. Or you could spend a few days putting together a sample scene (writing only, no art, no code) and then post it here for critique. And in the meantime I'll lay some new floors down in my living room (told the girlfriend I'd do it this weekend) and when we're both finished, let's compare notes.

 

[CheekyGimp]

I feel like at this point the game has TOO many female character for MC to woo. There're around female NPC to interact with atm and i hope it wont go higher than 15, it really hard to feel for a characer when you wont see them for 2-3 episodes.

 

[CheekyGimp]

honestly... I have to agree with you. If I could do it all again, I'd probably cut at least 2 or 3 of the characters as it is a bit too many to deal with it. So it's a fair comment. But now that I have introduced them I want to give each of them a turn in the spotlight, rather than just forget about 2 or 3 after they've come in. Because every girl is someone's favourite. Next game will hopefully correct this (or like i usually do, I'll ignore my own advice and slip in 20 females.... but I'll try)

 

[CheekyGimp]

I finished the current game (14 episodes)
I have to say I am impressed, for now. I hope it will continue like this.
But I have a few observations.

Monica
I think it's good to clarify who is right and who is wrong about Monica and the father, with evidence. This is not a choice that the player must make, it is a revelation that the story must tell him. I do not think it's useful to say it, but Monica must be right, otherwise the game is dead.

Elaine
Honestly, I do not really like the fact that Elaine is a woman to conquer. As a general rule, I do not touch the women my family members have fucked. In a game like "Milf City", it works, because Linda doesn't give a shit about her husband But here, Elaine loved the father, and it does not work too much... In addition to that, almost every action that the player does to Elaine reminds her of the father, like with the short-swimsuit.

Tommy
From the first second I saw him, I knew it was going to end badly with him. But I did not think Jenna was so naive. The MC should have explained to her from the start why this guy could be bad enough, to make her understand, not just tell her he did not like Tommy.

Dizzy
Honestly, I do not think it's Monica anymore.
I do not think it's Angel either.
I think this is a new character, at least I hope, because I have no desire to learn that one of my women is a traitor.

Actually, the MC realizes that his life is getting more and more complicated, especially after Jenna's sentence "be open and honest to each other" This kind of game usually leads to a harem route, and in this one, it must definitely be the case, because every girl we meet has a very specific character and is very clearly distinguished from others, and it's impossible to choose one.
Congratulations to the Devs for doing that.
If I can afford some advice, I would say that the best way to have the harem route would be to get women interested in each other. Jenna to her mother, Katie to her mother, Monica to her daughters, etc. Exactly like Katie to Lily and Debbie on the beach scene.

Finally, I would say that the real hero of the game is the illness that killed the father.

Finally, I would say that the real hero of the game is the illness that killed the father. - Love it!!!

 

[Snugglepuff]

PS : I also have never seen any wet surface/liquid residue on any of the charactes sexual parts, meaning precum for men and vaginal liquids for women, is this also your team's personal taste outcome or there are no assets or way to incorporate them ingame ?

That's not overly common in many games, not just with this one.

Indeed, but i always wondered why is this happening.

I'd guess because it's purely an incidental detail overall, and visibly wet vaginas and pre-cum just aren't something that's often seen in general when it comes to porn.

 

[Bantry]

That's not overly common in many games, not just with this one.
I'd guess because it's purely an incidental detail overall, and visibly wet vaginas and pre-cum just aren't something that's often seen in general when it comes to porn.

Indeed, but i always wondered why is this happening.

With little to zero experience in DAz/Renpy (playing games doesn't count), I would venture a guess that rendering said liquids realistically is a bitch and not worth the time and effort to add it to the game. Given the choice of a well developed characters and story vs. aesthetically accurate and/or pleasing minutiae details in renders, I will choose story and characters every time. All in all the story, characters and renders are great!

 

[FookU2]

I've been playing this game for a while now, and really enjoy it. The storyline is great, the characters are interesting, it's turned into one of my favorite games. But....one thing I figured I'd mention...
The use of the phrase "call around" is pretty annoying. In English (at least in American English, anyway lol), when we say "call around", we are referring to calling multiple different phone numbers. The phrase has been used in this game in ways like "call a single person, and talk to that one person" or "go to that person's house, and talk to them", when that's not what the phrase means. When you're driving to someone's house, you aren't "calling around" to anybody.
This comment isn't meant to bash, or talk down on anyone, or make fun. It's just meant as a helpful notice. Maybe the dev will wanna change it. Maybe nobody will see it as that important of an issue. Hell, it's already better than all those horribly translated Asian games that make little to no sense at all. lol

 

[Snugglepuff]

The use of the phrase "call around" is pretty annoying. In English (at least in American English, anyway lol),

See, that right there is your issue... American English!
Cheeky's Irish.

When you're driving to someone's house, you aren't "calling around" to anybody.

I'm born & raised in the north east of Scotland, and I've heard "call round" (more specifically call "roond") plenty times in the past. I wouldn't be surprised to hear other similar variations in parts of England and Wales.

As much as the proliferation of some words and terms (as well as the rise of the litigious society in the UK from around the late 90's) and other cultural influences have spread from the US to the UK and other English speaking countries, they all still use words and terms that are native to them, that aren't to people in the US.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

We have plenty of CUM assets and we have had a few cum scenes previously. I just don't want every episode to end in cumming on tits or faces or asses because usually that's not the case when it actually comes to sex. I know that's what always happens in pornos but not in RL. I'll do it if it fits the scene but won't do it in every scene.
And remember what works for you doesn't mean it's what everyone wants. Lots of people prefer the cum inside option (especially those with an impregnation fetish), so don't assume just because it's anticlimactic for you that it's because we are not bothering with "the basics" or we don't have the assets. And even if the majority wanted it I still may not do it if it doesn't fit the scene. Not all women actually like it when a guy cums on their face and the girls in this game are no different.

I completely agree on the cum aspect, the only reason I've ever cum on a woman is that we were using the pull-out method, except that one time when my then GF wanted to try tasting it and wanted me to aim at her mouth (I missed and blinded her (her words )) I was but a young 'un at the time with little experience, ahh youth.

Of course you're allowed an opinion and you just expressed one. And I cannot say you're right or wrong because... it's YOUR opinion.

But what I can say is I spent two years in construction after I left college and in my opinion building a house is a whole heap easier to learn and to do than game development. But that's just me. I never spent hours looking at tutorials online trying to figure out how to mix cement, lay blocks or cut wood. But I've spent months trying to figure out DAz/Renpy and I still have a LOT to learn. After 2 years I considered myself pretty adept at most aspects of construction, including the electricals.
The only thing I actually found difficult was plastering - I never got the hang of doing that well no matter how much I practiced.
But after 2 years of game development, I'd still consider myself a rookie.


So all I'd say is give both a go and then let me know if your opinion changes. Or you could spend a few days putting together a sample scene (writing only, no art, no code) and then post it here for critique. And in the meantime I'll lay some new floors down in my living room (told the girlfriend I'd do it this weekend) and when we're both finished, let's compare notes.

Yep, got to agree with you there, plastering is a bitch; I never got the hang of that either!

honestly... I have to agree with you. If I could do it all again, I'd probably cut at least 2 or 3 of the characters as it is a bit too many to deal with it. So it's a fair comment. But now that I have introduced them I want to give each of them a turn in the spotlight, rather than just forget about 2 or 3 after they've come in. Because every girl is someone's favourite. Next game will hopefully correct this (or like i usually do, I'll ignore my own advice and slip in 20 females.... but I'll try)

Ooh, so... who are the women that you would take out if you could? Just as a fer instance?






Totes not taking notes to eliminate potential gold digger suspects.

 

[FookU2]

See, that right there is your issue... American English!
Cheeky's Irish.



I'm born & raised in the north east of Scotland, and I've heard "call round" (more specifically call "roond") plenty times in the past. I wouldn't be surprised to hear other similar variations in parts of England and Wales.

As much as the proliferation of some words and terms (as well as the rise of the litigious society in the UK from around the late 90's) and other cultural influences have spread from the US to the UK and other English speaking countries, they all still use words and terms that are native to them, that aren't to people in the US.

I assumed it was probably terms of other English speaking countries, but to me it definitely makes no sense. lol
Defining the 2 words
"Call" .. in terms of speaking, isn't usually used to describe close conversation with someone directly in front of you.
"Around" means "other locations" or "everywhere" or "located or situated on every side"...which would mean NOT directly in front of you. lol
But I do understand every nation has different slang terms and phrases, and we also have different speaking patterns, and the same words can definitely have different uses or meanings in other nations.

I mean, some Northern states in the US call a water fountain a "bubbler", when it doesn't even bubble. lol

 

[cloves8]

well i finish this episode, without a walktrought so maybe i miss some scene, and im happy you continue dev this game. Its one of the best i play here,i like all aspects of the game. Congrats for the real good work.
Sorry if i say something in a wrong way, poor english here

 

[Bonhomie]

In 'English' English:

Call round - would mean visit a particular person or place - as in "I'll call round her house."

Call Around - would be used for the phone - calling a number of people. As in "I'll call around the ladies and see who can help."

Call - The simple way to refer to a single contact - as in: "I'll call Monica/her and arrange a date."

 

[Bonhomie]

Very strange???????????

Cheeky suddenly 'liked' a post of mine from way back around Jan 13th #4244 where I was speculating on golddiggers.

Looking at it, I am not sure there is any startling revelation within the post - more obfuscation by the plotmeister?

 

[MrDL]

It seems some aren't familiar with a certain classic 80s hit.

♪Hit me with your money shot
Why don't you hit me with your money shot
Hit me with your money shot
Fire away♪

 

[Draven X 23]

Ahh Jenna. Finally got the one I wanted all along. Totally worth it of course but the rest will just be happy additions to the rest of the game for me.

 

[laflare82]

Cheeky team,

First, spare me please with all this IRL Vs Porn thing. I doubt that anyone who watches/have watched porn
dont care for the cum scene. Also i dont know what do you mean when saying that cumming is not the case with sex, i assume you wanted to say something else since this makes no sense. Cumming signals the end of the sexual intercourse if i recall or dont ? ? ?? ?
Second, i also have a pregnancy fetish among others, but this has nothing to do with the fact that cum should have at least be visualised at least in the vagina entrance.
Third, c'mon.. "Not all women actually like it when a guy cums on their face and the girls in this game are no different " in which part did i mixed any RL scenarions with the game? It would be at least disturbing to do so. Any argument made especially by me is strictly targetted to this and any other visual novel, not IRL.

It is evident that you dont want cum to be visualized in your game too often, i understand it NOW and i respect it. But i am not on board with that, it is my personal taste. So, dont take it too personal because i have a feeling that you took it.

Anywayz, enough with that.

PS : I also have never seen any wet surface/liquid residue on any of the charactes sexual parts, meaning precum for men and vaginal liquids for women, is this also your team's personal taste outcome or there are no assets or way to incorporate them ingame ?

Why not lend your talent to cheeky by putting in the man hours instead of complaining (ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)