Ren'Py Whispers of Desire [v0.15] [Mr_Fable]

[DrAddy]

I think I can answer that because I translated it. I come from Germany. A translation into dialect could ridicule a game. And I wanted to avoid that at all costs. The original game impresses with a cool note in the language temperature, which I have retained and therefore, indeed, translated very High German.
Guude

That explains it, of course. If it sounds exactly the same in the original, then of course you want to keep the language style.
Don't worry, you're doing a great job. It's just me, I'm from the East, I can't stand High German, it's the same with British English, it sounds like a stick in the ass.

 

[Mr Fable]

skipping what?lol

Skipping fmc PoV based on player choice. That topic came up earlier

 

[Eleanorduval]

Oh, agreed, but i'm saying also the inverse should be true-if both her husband encourages and she voluntarily shows interest with her own actions, I wouldnt expect the dialogue to portray her as standoffish.

The most important is that both actions fit for each path.I mean if u are on the loyal path,I don’t expect her to be open like in the other paths.Let wait next update and see what Mr fable are cooking lol

 

[bennycack]

URM is good for branch I agree.However I prefer u universal choice for variable. But u can combinate both too.

regarding the choice I know flirting with the secretary makes u lose 2 luv pts with sarah and few relationships pts.
i think was 2–3 choice to increase sharing pts.

Still early to see a huge impact on both mc and fmc behavior

Maybe I wasn't clear - I am making both protagonists consciously avoid NTS and NTR. And it is working other than the forced voyeurism - that is what prompted the question about do they really matter.

 

[Mr Fable]

These matter. Certain paths that lead to NTR and NTS will be locked if enough points in some of these stats are not there. But there are other ways to get these points later on too.

The idea of skipping is new and I haven't really finalized how to incorporate them. I have an idea, I will see if that plays well with the story.

I answered it here

Maybe I wasn't clear - I am making both protagonists consciously avoid NTS and NTR. And it is working other than the forced voyeurism - that is what prompted the question about do they really matter.

Forced voyeurism was central to the plot so intentionally did not give an option to walk away.

 

[tunaboy57]

Mr Fable
I have a concern for the immediate future, having played 1.5 release, and trying to steer Sarah and Alex into sharing path.

They are already beginning to hide stuff from each other.

I would hope the next update contains some honest dialogue, with full disclosure between the two about events and thoughts going forward. Without that, proper sharing cannot survive. There will be too much distrust if it is allowed to continue, and it will all be cheating, until that situation is remedied. The loss of confidence in the partner is very crucial to further events, and just becomes a setup for NTR.

 

[sunnydef20]

nice game, should be slow burn and should avoid many side characters and stories.

 

[Filipis]

Mr Fable
I have a concern for the immediate future, having played 1.5 release, and trying to steer Sarah and Alex into sharing path.

They are already beginning to hide stuff from each other.

I would hope the next update contains some honest dialogue, with full disclosure between the two about events and thoughts going forward. Without that, proper sharing cannot survive. There will be too much distrust if it is allowed to continue, and it will all be cheating, until that situation is remedied. The loss of confidence in the partner is very crucial to further events, and just becomes a setup for NTR.

NTR needs more setup than NTS, and such a setup can easily be resolved with simple communication, so it's not really a problem if things LOOK to be going that way.

 

[tunaboy57]

NTR needs more setup than NTS, and such a setup can easily be resolved with simple communication, so it's not really a problem if things LOOK to be going that way.

Nope, NTR needs no setup at all, other than dangling the bait in front of a willing victim. In fact it obviously only requires one person to be persuaded, not two (and more if you really thought about it, which you haven't, going by that statement)
But for NTS, it is NOT a matter of "finding out after the fact" making everything ok. It is not "simple" communication. It is intense, for BOTH partners in any ongoing relationship. Why must it be early, before anything occurs? Because by that time, the mind has already cheated and lost trust in the partner, and where the mind goes, the body follows.

 

[Dealbreaker]

where the mind goes, the body follows.

Where the body goes, the mind follows.
And there goes your "trust".

 

[tunaboy57]

Where the body goes, the mind follows.

Only a person who thinks that coercion/control is the only avenue for success would believe that. That is Domination, in its pure form. The refuge of typical Red Pill thinking.

That is not NTS.

Not attacking, just disagreeing philosophically.

 

[Fat Brit 56]

Only a person who thinks that coercion/control is the only avenue for success would believe that. That is Domination, in its pure form. The refuge of typical Red Pill thinking.

That is not NTS.

Not attacking, just disagreeing philosophically.

Sadly a lot think NTR means only one thing, let alone NTS , a huge majority of AVN's only have the one blinkered route; the dickless male mc is always the one cucked and the wife/partner is always the one cheating etc, here the developer has the chance to produce a stand out title that doesn't follow the rest of the boring flock of sheep. But alas I fear the boss will corrupt the wife and once again the mc loses out ??.

 

[versuspower]

Good luck nice game

 

[Dealbreaker]

Only a person who thinks that coercion/control is the only avenue for success would believe that. That is Domination, in its pure form. The refuge of typical Red Pill thinking.

Don't know how you think that control asserts itself only over the body and not the mind. If there is domination, it can be applied to both.
And strange that you bring up the control topic at all and think in that terms. There is something inbetween "domination" and "trust" - which seem to be the extremes you are focused on - and it's called "human". Man is free to fail and to be tempted and to betray. No ammount of communication is going to change that. Most humans in such situations can't be trusted - and they can't be dominated either. But they follow the impact of sexual and emotional experiences the make in the moment. That's what I mean with mind following the body. And to bring up domination everytime you get reminded of that fact of human nature doesn't lead anywhere.

 

[StrongEpsilon]

The idea was that although the player knows what's in neils mind from the beginning, Sarah doesn't. But as she figures out his advances, she can reject them or accept.

What is the point, then, of choosing MC to tell her about the rumors?

Spoiler: about rumors

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[Rayne]

Dev, I understand that in addition to ntr/nts, there will be a loyalty patch in the game? If so, I think you need to put it in the game description (or indicate in the tags) that ntr/nts can be avoided, so you can possibly attract more players to your game, since not everyone uses the search to find information. At the moment, the game looks good even for me, who doesn't like ntr/nts. Good luck with the development.

 

[tunaboy57]

Don't know how you think that control asserts itself only over the body and not the mind. If there is domination, it can be applied to both.
And strange that you bring up the control topic at all and think in that terms. There is something inbetween "domination" and "trust" - which seem to be the extremes you are focused on - and it's called "human". Man is free to fail and to be tempted and to betray. No ammount of communication is going to change that. Most humans in such situations can't be trusted - and they can't be dominated either. But they follow the impact of sexual and emotional experiences the make in the moment. That's what I mean with mind following the body. And to bring up domination everytime you get reminded of that fact of human nature doesn't lead anywhere.

Perhaps.
This is just a philisophical discussion. The breadth of the human experience is vast.
But I brought up domination, as that seems to be the mainstream trope followed in AVNs, which are just fantasies really, and mostly divorced from real world experiences. Whether it is physical or mindful depends on the situation of course, but the majority followed in NTR tropes in AVNs is one of some form of it (domination) I could make you a list of those tropes, but I am sure you are already aware of them if you have played more than a handful of corruption or netorare "games".
Whereas that is so rarely the case in NTS, that your assertion that the mind follows the body is antithetical to the genre.

 

[jokerfakejkf]

nc game

 

[DevilGizmo]

Love it

 

[Bunny-Hunter]

looking forward to the next updates