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TonyMurray

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I was unsure of James at first, but then it was mentioned she has good chemistry with him, it piqued my interest.
It looks like they are a good couple to help our MCs take some early steps in their adventures. He's pleasant enough and doesn't at all come across as predatory to me, and he has the advantage of coming as a package deal with Rachel (though I'm sure it will be possible to take them individually, if you only wanted Sarah, or only Alex, to partake).
 
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packard1928

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yep...I saw that... I just hope he doesn't develop the story where she gets busy with him on that path first...
 

TonyMurray

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yep...I saw that... I just hope he doesn't develop the story where she gets busy with him on that path first...
On the loyalty path? I don't think the dev has a death wish! :ROFLMAO: Again though, from all we've seen and been told so far, every character and situation should be avoidable. I guess if you say yes and have Sarah start having sex with Neil, for instance, there might come a point after that where you're no longer asked, because you'll be considered to have already made the decision - but that's just speculation.
 

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Regarding the silly doomposting accusation, there seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding.

At least I don't perceive the game as great and muse about potential flaws that could make it bad. I already perceive the game as flawed, point it out, then muse on potential ways to change and improve it so that it becomes good.

The recent update didn't change my perception on how bare bones the characters are and how the game would benefit from a faster pace. Couldn't Neil already been more aggressive or changing tactics instead of acting the same milquetoast passive aggressive? Couldn't we already have connected with the swinging neighbors or fitness partners if we had more personal scenes with them and knew them better? The cheating and swinging can't pay off as effectively if the corrupters aren't fleshed out. That's why having too many characters can and do dilute the pace, when fewer characters and/or more different scenes to take the MCs out of their comfort zone would improve the pace. E.g. I try to be invested in Abigail, when all her recent scenes have the same amount of very mild flirting. The sessions with Eva are a bit more direct and confrontational, but she lacks the personal touch and shared past that Abigail has, so in the end, both characters end up mild, when combined, they'd make a more solid character.

The trend to offset this by just introducing more characters with each update instead of focusing on a small number of cast first, won't solve this issues and instead snowball it even more.
 

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Regarding the silly doomposting accusation, there seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding.

At least I don't perceive the game as great and muse about potential flaws that could make it bad. I already perceive the game as flawed, point it out, then muse on potential ways to change and improve it so that it becomes good.

The recent update didn't change my perception on how bare bones the characters are and how the game would benefit from a faster pace. Couldn't Neil already been more aggressive or changing tactics instead of acting the same milquetoast passive aggressive? Couldn't we already have connected with the swinging neighbors or fitness partners if we had more personal scenes with them and knew them better? The cheating and swinging can't pay off as effectively if the corrupters aren't fleshed out. That's why having too many characters can and do dilute the pace, when fewer characters and/or more different scenes to take the MCs out of their comfort zone would improve the pace. E.g. I try to be invested in Abigail, when all her recent scenes have the same amount of very mild flirting. The sessions with Eva are a bit more direct and confrontational, but she lacks the personal touch and shared past that Abigail has, so in the end, both characters end up mild, when combined, they'd make a more solid character.

The trend to offset this by just introducing more characters with each update instead of focusing on a small number of cast first, won't solve this issues and instead snowball it even more.
men it is the third post to say the same thing.The dev will not change the way of his writing.He got your point no need to spam the thread.
 

Eleanorduval

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On the loyalty path? I don't think the dev has a death wish! :ROFLMAO: Again though, from all we've seen and been told so far, every character and situation should be avoidable. I guess if you say yes and have Sarah start having sex with Neil, for instance, there might come a point after that where you're no longer asked, because you'll be considered to have already made the decision - but that's just speculation.
not gonna happen on route 1 for sure,maybe route 3-4.
 

TonyMurray

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Regarding the silly doomposting accusation, there seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding.

At least I don't perceive the game as great and muse about potential flaws that could make it bad. I already perceive the game as flawed, point it out, then muse on potential ways to change and improve it so that it becomes good.

The recent update didn't change my perception on how bare bones the characters are and how the game would benefit from a faster pace. Couldn't Neil already been more aggressive or changing tactics instead of acting the same milquetoast passive aggressive? Couldn't we already have connected with the swinging neighbors or fitness partners if we had more personal scenes with them and knew them better? The cheating and swinging can't pay off as effectively if the corrupters aren't fleshed out. That's why having too many characters can and do dilute the pace, when fewer characters and/or more different scenes to take the MCs out of their comfort zone would improve the pace. E.g. I try to be invested in Abigail, when all her recent scenes have the same amount of very mild flirting. The sessions with Eva are a bit more direct and confrontational, but she lacks the personal touch and shared past that Abigail has, so in the end, both characters end up mild, when combined, they'd make a more solid character.

The trend to offset this by just introducing more characters with each update instead of focusing on a small number of cast first, won't solve this issues and instead snowball it even more.
I disagree with you - not because of the points you're making (as you say, you are reacting to what you see), but because I just have a different opinion of it. And that's fine in both cases, we're both right because we're just stating our opinions, even if they are opposing.

I feel that if the number of characters were reduced, it would necessitate a reduction in choice as well. I mentioned this to a friend in DM, so I'm going to be lazy and copy and paste from there (excuse the tone, as it's taken out of context as part of a private conversation):
Okay, how about we reduce it then, but we take away player choice as a result, because there are only five characters to spread the content between now. Don't like Neil? He's forced now. Don't like BBC, sorry, you're getting Erik whether you want him or not...
It's maybe taking it to an extreme, but that's the way I look at it - you'd suddenly end up with either no choice on some or all characters, or you'd end up having no content if you do choose to avoid those characters.

I think the ones that you list as being similar do offer something different though, or at least, they will by the time they're a bit more established. John/Jessica and James/Rachel are a good example of this, as from a glance they are two couples who swing - why have two of these, when one should be enough? I figure (choice and preference of looks/personality etc. aside), you've got an unknown couple and a best friend couple. The unknown couple (James/Rachel) are an ideal starting point to test the waters, then if Alex and Sarah are comfortable with it, they can move on to John/Jessica with less fear of ruining the friendship if it turns out that they don't like what they're getting in to.

Abigail and Eva are maybe a bit difficult, again because we've not yet had enough time (especially from Abigail) to get to know them. They do look to me like they're coming at Alex from different places though, or with different motivations at least, and that can make a big difference.

I like the freedom of choice. It might make things take a bit longer to get going, but it should give us a similar amount of overall content, it's just that we'd be able to more freely avoid some of it if we don't like X or Y character for any given reason.
 

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I disagree with you - not because of the points you're making (as you say, you are reacting to what you see), but because I just have a different opinion of it. And that's fine in both cases, we're both right because we're just stating our opinions, even if they are opposing.

I feel that if the number of characters were reduced, it would necessitate a reduction in choice as well. I mentioned this to a friend in DM, so I'm going to be lazy and copy and paste from there (excuse the tone, as it's taken out of context as part of a private conversation):


It's maybe taking it to an extreme, but that's the way I look at it - you'd suddenly end up with either no choice on some or all characters, or you'd end up having no content if you do choose to avoid those characters.

I think the ones that you list as being similar do offer something different though, or at least, they will by the time they're a bit more established. John/Jessica and James/Rachel are a good example of this, as from a glance they are two couples who swing - why have two of these, when one should be enough? I figure (choice and preference of looks/personality etc. aside), you've got an unknown couple and a best friend couple. The unknown couple (James/Rachel) are an ideal starting point to test the waters, then if Alex and Sarah are comfortable with it, they can move on to John/Jessica with less fear of ruining the friendship if it turns out that they don't like what they're getting in to.

Abigail and Eva are maybe a bit difficult, again because we've not yet had enough time (especially from Abigail) to get to know them. They do look to me like they're coming at Alex from different places though, or with different motivations at least, and that can make a big difference.

I like the freedom of choice. It might make things take a bit longer to get going, but it should give us a similar amount of overall content, it's just that we'd be able to more freely avoid some of it if we don't like X or Y character for any given reason.
James and Rachel are swinger.Unlike John she isn’t a cuck,so for me John and Jessica are another dynamic.
Second Jessica didn’t hide her slutiness.She make obvious that she want to influence Sarah.Remember the incident with Louise 1st,the dialogue between them in gym,Jessica push Sara to join her to play volleyball.

on the other hand James and Rachel was more subtle
 

TonyMurray

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James and Rachel are swinger.Unlike John she isn’t a cuck,so for me John and Jessica are another dynamic.
Second Jessica didn’t hide her slutiness.She make obvious that she want to influence Sarah.Remember the incident with Louise 1st,the dialogue between them in gym,Jessica push Sara to join her to play volleyball.

on the other hand James and Rachel was more subtle
Yes, so similar from a glance, but not really that similar once you get into it. We also don't know the extent of John and Jessica's relationship, all we saw was the start of something before Alex had to retreat. It could be that John joins in and it's a full threesome, and on other occasions Erik's wife is shared or swapped as well (she was stated as unable to be at the barbecue, maybe she'll be introduced in a later episode though?). Definitely a good point about the influence though, whereas I feel James and Rachel are not pushy, despite setting their sights on Alex and Sarah, Jessica at least, as you say, is openly (but only mildly) encouraging Sarah.

Of course, some other things we don't know yet include Jessica's potential and desire to influence Alex in the same way, and whether or not John gets involved with other women or if it's just Jessica who gets to have sex with others. She broaches the topic with Alex in the gym, but doesn't confirm any specifics about the relationship dynamic. We know she knows Alex saw her with Erik, and that he knows it's not behind John's back, but other than that not much more (I can't remember if Alex and Jessica have spoken again about it since that first gym visit though).
 

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ntr with a "happy" couple and the girl is pretty in pretty good looking renders HECK YEAH! just a bummer that the fmc isn't more curvy and i don't see at least one nasty old guy she can optionally can have some wild naughty time with.
Not every game nedds a dirty oldman, go back to your “babysitters” game, oh sorry forgot he had to change the name cause its not about babysitting anymore, to “burning boundaries” the patrons have voted to put half dead tony banging in your wife in every update
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