Why is rule 7 a thing

[RoseWulfLea]

Well, you can always report the other games for review against rule 1.7.
As this is a subjective rule per se:

Thus it make a lot of sense that the outcome of checks against this rules are also subjective.
Also everyone can and should used the report system in case he thinks that some descicsion was unjustified or so.

And keep it behind closed doors so it can just be ignored, no thank you. This is an issue that keeps coming up, and until the mods take a side one way or the other will continue to do so. And they won't as the amount of games that would have to be purged with loli/shota would take out a decent chunk. And people would leave, and this site would likely become the next ULMF, damn near useless. Then the next forum will come and fill the gap.

The easiest thing for them to do is just ignore it, and let things continue as they are.

 

[Hagatagar]

The easiest thing for them to do is just ignore it, and let things continue as they are.

The rules are for the protection of this site:

It's a legal issue that ties into the survival of the website. Here are 3 very compelling reasons -
1- We're trying to stay on the right side of the businesses who provide the hosting and server space. They have laws to follow just like we do. So we are trying to do the best we can with providing the game we can but still "stay under the radar". Problem is, once it starts getting too extreme like young realistic sexual content, then those businesses will refuse to host us or provide servers.
2- The younger content brings in "undesirables" (pedophiles and others) from the deep web and elsewhere who often are being tracked by law enforcement.. that's bad for us in 2 ways.. those "undesirables" often bring some nastier content with them and the law is now going to scrutinize the site. Again, really bad.. The hosters/servers will drop us in a second if we bring in the law.
3- That content will NOT go unnoticed by hacktivists who won't hesitate to flood this site and use tools to make our lives very very miserable.

Remember, if we trigger a NEGATIVE response from the hosts and/or servers, we have no website. NO F95Zone in other words.

Then the next forum will come and fill the gap.

Another site did try that, wanted to have stuff that F95zone doesn't allow, but even they got frightened and culled some of their content because of what happend with Westy (the dev of Proud Father) in Australia.

 

[c3p0]

Another site did try that, wanted to have stuff that F95zone doesn't allow, but even they got frightened and culled some of their content because of what happend with Westy (the dev of Proud Father) in Australia.

Most likely their are already site ouside here in the bright spectrum between all CP with pedos on it and all things that get you in the search light of any police force to some that try to limit that full or partial so that they aren't website number one on their radar.
Some of the site may be in the normal net and some be on the dark net.

Simple as is, site comes and goes for different reasosn. This site try that the reasons they go won't be some games with questionable characters in it.

And as always, if you don't like the house rules, nobody force you to stay and you're free to make (an)other site that cater to the adult/porn game community.

 

[RoseWulfLea]

The rules are for the protection of this site:




Another site did try that, wanted to have stuff that F95zone doesn't allow, but even they got frightened and culled some of their content because of what happend with Westy (the dev of Proud Father) in Australia.

And those reasons are a joke, We are a pirate site, we already do illegal stuff. There are likely a bunch of pedo's already on site AS WE SPEAK, and would likely be here even if loli/shota wasn't on the site at all. And my biggest point is the inconsistentness of the "realism" argument, which should be really simple, realistic 3d and photo-realism should be a hard no, and anything drawn shouldn't be an issue at all, simple as that.

And another site will pop up, simple as that. A few already exist, like lah.li or ATF

 

[RoseWulfLea]

And as always, if you don't like the house rules, nobody force you to stay and you're free to make (an)other site that cater to the adult/porn game community.

It's not that I don't like the house rules, I don't like how inconsistent they are in enforcing them. Either enforce the bloody rules or change them.

 

[c3p0]

So, being the devil advocate, what is your solution to this?!

Remove rule 1.7, and as it is simple the same for another typ of content, rule 1.10 too?
As we are on the go, remove rules 1.1, 1.2, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4, 2.7 as they are also subjective?
Have for every decision on any of this rules listed before the whole moderation staff having to vote?
Having a 20 page list were in detail describe what is against those rules?
Lock all game characters 21 years in Sam data safe and release them afterwards?

So, doesn't work, it's crap cause is it subjective doesn't help at all. It may be the true, but it doesn't help at all.

Removing those rule will not help at all, but end this site faster than you can spell F-B-I.

Adding a staff voting requirement for some of them may be a good idea and from my understanding content that my violate rule 1.7 and 1.10 are already aproached this way.
They are 29 mods/admin on this site. Yet, I doubt that all of them vote every time. So, if staff that are more leniency regarding rule 1.7/1.10 and at another time some aren't their that are very strict with rule regarding rule 1.7/1.10, then you have your subjective even as they do take votes.

Detailed list for content baning might or might not work, at least it would gives you clearity that eg. a flat, tiny, young girl without pubic hair would be a no-no. On the other hand, if the list is public, then some will find a way do show characters that fails withing the meaning of the rule, but is, according to the list, ok.

 

[Hagatagar]

And those reasons are a joke, We are a pirate site, we already do illegal stuff.

Authorities don't give a shit about pirated stuff, especially when it involves something as trivial as indie porn or in most cases even fictional lolis.
But when it comes to real CP or the like, it's a different story. This site will get shut down.

There are likely a bunch of pedo's already on site AS WE SPEAK, and would likely be here even if loli/shota wasn't on the site at all.

Just by pure probability we also have certainly people who have raped or even murdered someone on this site.
It's not necessary about not having some of them here, it's about them not doing their business here.

A few already exist, like lah.li or ATF

And if they want to stay in the clearnet, they need rules too.

 

[RoseWulfLea]

Authorities don't give a shit about pirated stuff, especially when it involves something as trivial as indie porn or in most cases even fictional lolis.
But when it comes to real CP or the like, it's a different story. This site will get shut down.

Just by pure probability we also have certainly people who have raped or even murdered someone on this site.
It's not necessary about not having some of them here, it's about them not doing their business here.


And if they want to stay in the clearnet, they need rules too.

and real cp Should stay off the site, im not talking about real cp

that business wouldn't be done here, as again no real cp

and they do, cause its all FAKE, their both mainly loli/shota forums, and funny enough ANTI cp

 

[Pamphlet]

Good fucking grief. Who the fuck do people think they are to think it's reasonable to bitch about an already shady site trying to avoid falling afoul of the law in most countries on the planet?

"Oh noes! The pirate site isn't going down defending my villain-adjacent* porn tastes!"

*C'mon. Don't pretend that the genre isn't riddled with actual paedos. You might not be but you know people in the threads who are.

 

[RoseWulfLea]

Good fucking grief. Who the fuck do people think they are to think it's reasonable to bitch about an already shady site trying to avoid falling afoul of the law in most countries on the planet?

"Oh noes! The pirate site isn't going down defending my villain-adjacent* porn tastes!"

*C'mon. Don't pretend that the genre isn't riddled with actual paedos. You might not be but you know people in the threads who are.

Someone who feels they should be consistent about it, and its called free speach, something people with brainrot seem to forget is a thing. You can dislike something all you want, its not going to change it existing mate.

And if they were avoiding running afoul as you say, they wouldn't let it on the site at all. Funny how there is almost 800 Loli/Shota games here. Funny how some games get approved by mod while others (that are about equal) get banned. Others may be fine just letting that slide, but I'll be the bitch that points out that shite aint kosher. Whether people like it or not

 

[c3p0]

Someone who feels they should be consistent about it, and its called free speach, something people with brainrot seem to forget is a thing.

And we are on a privat own site, so that means nothing.

 

[Pamphlet]

and its called free speach

Free speech does not mean what you think it does. Also it doesn't apply to anything that isn't run by a government subject to laws governing restriction on speech.

Look, I don't give a shit about arguing the rights and wrongs of the situation. It is and will remain so regardless of any argument you want to have with entirely the wrong people.

 

[RoseWulfLea]

Free speech does not mean what you think it does. Also it doesn't apply to anything that isn't run by a government subject to laws governing restriction on speech.

Look, I don't give a shit about arguing the rights and wrongs of the situation. It is and will remain so regardless of any argument you want to have with entirely the wrong people.

It means I get to have my opinion, just as you get to have yours.

I simply have put my opinion out into the world and have defended it. I realize I can't snap my fingers and fix the situation, that doesn't mean I won't say my peace. If you want to interact with said opinion that is your choice, I'm not holding a gun to your, or anyone's, head and telling them they have to argue with me. It's their choice to do so

 

[Pamphlet]

It means I get to have my opinion, just as you get to have yours.

I simply have put my opinion out into the world and have defended it. I realize I can't snap my fingers and fix the situation, that doesn't mean I won't say my peace. If you want to interact with said opinion that is your choice, I'm not holding a gun to your, or anyone's, head and telling them they have to argue with me. It's their choice to do so

Ah, so it's your right to pointlessly whine to everybody about how you're not going to be personally accommodated.

I mean, yeah, it is in a specifically governmental sense but there's nothing to say you can do as you please on a privately owned forum with a whole screed of T's & C's. It's also not startling if people roll their eyes and tell you to fuck off with starry eyed fantasy that relies on a world that doesn't exist and a deeply embarrassing ignorance of basic concepts like freedom of speech.

 

[c3p0]

We can write whatever we want here. We have the same rights as you and nobody is holding you at gun point, so you must interact with us.
Your one of over 6 million users, same as the rest of us and nobody really cares about you.

So your opinion on one specific topic that the staff seems to have their opinion already, and I don't see them changing their minds, will do nothing at all. Doesn't think that happen either ways, but even if you would be backed up by a lot of others it wouldn't change a thing.

Sure, all z years someone mourns why game x is here and game y not, cause game x is so more on the loli scale than y. It will change nothing.

 

[RoseWulfLea]

Ah, so it's your right to pointlessly whine to everybody about how you're not going to be personally accommodated.

I mean, yeah, it is in a specifically governmental sense but there's nothing to say you can do as you please on a privately owned forum with a whole screed of T's & C's. It's also not startling if people roll their eyes and tell you to fuck off with starry eyed fantasy that relies on a world that doesn't exist and a deeply embarrassing ignorance of basic concepts like freedom of speech.

We can write whatever we want here. We have the same writes as you and nobody is holding you at gun point, so you must interact with us.
Your one of over 6 million users, same as the rest of us and nobody really cares about you.

So your opinion on one specific topic that the staff seems to have their opinion already, and I don't see them changing their minds, will do nothing at all. Doesn't think that happen either ways, but even if you would be backed up by a lot of others it wouldn't change a thing.

Sure, all z years someone mourns why game x is here and game y not, cause game x is so more on the loli scale than y. It will change nothing.

I love how people see part of my arguement is pro loli/shota, and ignore the rest. I want consistancy, if its such an issue BAN loli/shota in its entirety, whatever. I will come here for non-loli/shota and go elsewhere for it. My point is the mods SHOULD BE CONSISTANT, not going back and forth depending on what mod views what when. I don't care if it goes one way or the other, the fact that it keeps coming up shows its something worth talking about.

Mods need to either ease up and only ban the shite that is damn near cp (the realistic 3d) or just not allow it at all.

 

[FleshSac]

Have you considered the fact that the reason the rulings are inconsistent is because there's a difference between having sex with a 16 year old and having sex with a 6 year old? The former raises eyebrows, the latter raises shotguns. I don't give a shit how "real" it is, a depiction of sex with a young child IS cp.

 

[Pamphlet]

I love how people see part of my arguement is pro loli/shota, and ignore the rest.

No, I was poking at your view being simplistic.

 

[RoseWulfLea]

Have you considered the fact that the reason the rulings are inconsistent is because there's a difference between having sex with a 16 year old and having sex with a 6 year old? The former raises eyebrows, the latter raises shotguns. I don't give a shit how "real" it is, a depiction of sex with a young child IS cp.

Take that to one of the feds whose job is to arrest cp users, watch them tell you not to waste their time. Also look at some of the loli games that have been okayed by staff and see that this argument is invalid, as there are several games that, while you don't KNOW the age of the characters, some are so obviously young it is funny.

 

[RoseWulfLea]

No, I was poking at your view being simplistic.

Are you though? You seem awfully focused on the pro loli bit. I don't believe you have brought up the just ban it all aspect at all