VN Ren'Py Wild Cats [April Fool's Special] [LopaPhi]

[Dessolos]

Yeah I may not remember that much about this game as I forgot alot. But I remembering thinking the MC was such an asshole he deservers to get more shit than he got from some of the girls. So i can't blame any of them for blowing up on him ( tho i forget which girls he actually wronged and was an asshole towards)

 

[Krytax123]

Yeah I may not remember that much about this game as I forgot alot. But I remembering thinking the MC was such an asshole he deservers to get more shit than he got from some of the girls. So i can't blame any of them for blowing up on him ( tho i forget which girls he actually wronged and was an asshole towards)

Hes a overcompetitive weirdo who lacks socialization but he has charm and a spine imo

I really enjoyed his assholeish-ness and the conflict with the girls haha, usually it feels kinda forced but here i enjoyed it, everyone overreacted (mc&li's) and went over the top aggressive but imo it was exactly along the line of creating great tension for future passion lol.

They are all young and learning to become better people and to socialize but quite a few of them have more character and personality already than the usual avn LI after 10 chapters.

I take that over every LI being smitten with the MC after 3 minutes every fucking single day.

 

[Ciaran8023]

Thats the thing, its different for different people. Some play for the lewds, some for the romance, some for the story, some for the relationship development, its impossible to just reduce it to "people play it for porn" otherwise they would just watch porn which has way higher quality lol

So some interactivity is apparently appreciated in the medium, why that is, is different from person to person. And the same person can play different AVNs for different reasons. You can enjoy a kink-focused avn for the porn and at the same time a story focused avn for the story.

Again, point out where I said that EVERYONE plays the same way.
I even noted that I, myself, play for reasons other than lewds, but again I don't delude myself into thinking that the vast majority play AVN's for the same reasons I do.

It doesn't take a genius to realize that the majority of people seek out AVN's for the lewds. It's why AVN's exist in the first place, if you weren't interested in the lewds at all then you would simply play VN's more often than not.

Nah i just lumped you and the other poster together as you two guys are agreeing with each other all on the past sides but you just agreed with my perception saying "better than most" lol

So you're trying to argue in good faith and you're lumping me in with a different dude with different views?
Brotherman, that's disappointing.

Zoey has something the MC wants

He also has something she wants, which is his attention, or did you gloss over that she's fangirling HELLA hard over him?

while she doesnt need anything short term from him, is just logical that he has to make the first step as time is somewhat ticking for him. Shes just a bit overemotional girly and lacks life experience and was totally overwhelmed and out of her element, shes young, sue her yeez.

Young? She's 18 years old, in college and comes from a prestigious family.
Moreover, in every other scenario than with the MC, she's portrayed as being somewhat aloof and mature beyond her years.

It's impressive how far you're reaching in trying to defend that behaviour.

Your just a snowflake, Zoey will apoligize at some point obviously, if youre feelings are too hurt, dont go for her or whatever. You dont have to like her, i dont care, but to claim her being a bad character which keeps people from being interested in the avn is just rubbish. Lots of people like her, you dont, get over it.

Calling out characters acting shitty is somehow being a snowflake?
You literally noted yourself that 'she will apologize at some point', meaning that she has done something to apologize for, so by your own logic that would also make you a snowflake.

Moreover, I don't have any emotional investment in this game at all, I just call out shitty behaviour where I see it. If you felt so slighted that I dissed your waifu, then that's on you pal, it doesn't take away from the fact that I haven't been the first to post about it, and even after 60+ pages there are still people posting about the characters behaviour.
Clearly this must mean that it's a mass delusion and they're all a part of Big AVN Syndicate that's out to say that your waifu has shitty behaviour.

The MC is not rational at all, what the fuck?

He sure is more fucking rational than someone who punches a person in the face for a disagreement, or someone who decides to almost fuck over his entire employment because they ended up in a disagreement.

Did you not noticed his anger issues and depression? That he started as total fuckup? If you consider his actions perfectly rational

and he's shown to be a rational character or atleast becoming more rational.

Read this again buddy, you're trying to put words into my mouth for the 30th time.
Or you're dyslexic, let me know if that is the case.

In which scene did the MC have to behave like a little bitch?

When he decided to flip his shit due to impatience and yell at people?
Did you just not play the start of the game?

The are all (okay desiree not this much) flawed, including the MC.

And no one said otherwise, though I will say that Desiree is also flawed as fuck, no one should blindly trust a stranger like she does, which is why she has two friends that are overzealous in protecting her. You'd know this if you played the game.
That aside, while all sides are flawed, one side atleast has the wherewithal to reflect on his actions, whereas the girls for the most part clearly do not.

 

[Dessolos]

if you weren't interested in the lewds at all then you would simply play VN's more often than not.

I got bored so I read the first paragraph and stopped.

But this isn't always true yeah for alot of people sure. But I am someone that plays most AVN's for the non lewd scenes most of the time now days it depends on the AVN I am playing but most I do play aren't for the porn or lewds id say only maybe 10 - 20 % are. But when i first got into AVN's I didn't start playing them for the lewds I can tell you that much.

When I first got into AVN's I was mostly finding anime style VN's for the ones I did find and they didn't interest me really and when I realized I played an AVN's in the past without knowing they were AVN's I remembered the Daz art style and that was more to my liking. So I decided to try a few "porn games" to see how I like cause frankly porn or not porn all that mattered to me was the dating sim part at the time , when I was trying to figure out if AVN's were for me or not.

 

[Ciaran8023]

I got bored so I read the first paragraph and stopped.

But this isn't always true yeah for alot of people sure. But I am someone that plays most AVN's for the non lewd scenes most of the time now days it depends on the AVN I am playing but most I do play aren't for the porn or lewds id say only maybe 10 - 20 % are. But when i first got into AVN's I didn't start playing them for the lewds I can tell you that much.

When I first got into AVN's I was mostly finding anime style VN's for the ones I did find and they didn't interest me really and when I realized I played an AVN's in the past without knowing they were AVN's I remembered the Daz art style and that was more to my liking. So I decided to try a few "porn games" to see how I like cause frankly porn or not porn all that mattered to me was the dating sim part at the time , when I was trying to figure out if AVN's were for me or not.

Hey, I'm in the same boat, the vast majority of the time I'm hunting for interesting characters and interesting plots, hell my favourite AVN right now and favourite character doesn't even have any sexual scenes, I'm just pointing out that we're in the minority to do so.
For every person playing AVN's for reasons like ours, there are probably 100+ that play for the porn or for specific fetishes.

 

[Krytax123]

Again, point out where I said that EVERYONE plays the same way.
I even noted that I, myself, play for reasons other than lewds, but again I don't delude myself into thinking that the vast majority play AVN's for the same reasons I do.

It doesn't take a genius to realize that the majority of people seek out AVN's for the lewds. It's why AVN's exist in the first place, if you weren't interested in the lewds at all then you would simply play VN's more often than not.

Bro you doing it one sentence later already again, i dont have to look anything up. Thanks.

So you're trying to argue in good faith and you're lumping me in with a different dude with different views?
Brotherman, that's disappointing.

Its more like im bored and think youre annoying and mostly wrong with your opinions. Im already aware there is nothing which could be said to convince you of anything.

He also has something she wants, which is his attention, or did you gloss over that she's fangirling HELLA hard over him?

Young? She's 18 years old, in college and comes from a prestigious family.
Moreover, in every other scenario than with the MC, she's portrayed as being somewhat aloof and mature beyond her years.

It's impressive how far you're reaching in trying to defend that behaviour.

Yes 18 is young, and its exactly because shes such a fangirl that she reacted this disappointed and emotional towards him. You even were able to comprehend that shes usually more mature but fail entirely to comprehend why she is different and way more emotional with the MC.

Calling out characters acting shitty is somehow being a snowflake?
You literally noted yourself that 'she will apologize at some point', meaning that she has done something to apologize for, so by your own logic that would also make you a snowflake.

No, whining nonstop about a characters behavior and claiming it harms the retention of the avn just because you cant stand this LI while she doesnt seem unpopular at all in polls and being this harsh towards a 18 yo girl who reacted overemotional is what makes you a snowflake.

You second sentence is absent of any kind of logic bro. I already stated multiple times that i like the flawed characters here, i never claimed they are flawless.

I like the thing your crying about, do you understand that?

Moreover, I don't have any emotional investment in this game at all, I just call out shitty behaviour where I see it. If you felt so slighted that I dissed your waifu, then that's on you pal, it doesn't take away from the fact that I haven't been the first to post about it, and even after 60+ pages there are still people posting about the characters behaviour.
Clearly this must mean that it's a mass delusion and they're all a part of Big AVN Syndicate that's out to say that your waifu has shitty behaviour.

Yes people post about the characters behavior as many of them react flawed, which is intended (something you seem to fail to notice) and as you can see even creates friction and involvement! Isnt that great?

By the way, youre doing it again, claiming your talking for this big majority, aaaalllll these guys hating zoey, i see them whereever i am when i walk on the strees. So many! And youre their voice! Man youre really fighting for freedom here! William Wallace!

Dont you get how stupid you sound claiming again and again that youre talking for this big majority? Just talk for yourself.

There are at least three LI's i prefer over Zoey in this avn by the way but whatever about your waifu angle.

He sure is more fucking rational than someone who punches a person in the face for a disagreement, or someone who decides to almost fuck over his entire employment because they ended up in a disagreement.

Dude we have the choice to slap a girl in this avn and even if we dont do it, the MC is close to it and theres nothing we can do about it. And its not even a girl who was violent towards him like fiona, he was close to punching fucking eve who is entirely harmless and soft. HOW IS THAT RATIONAL AT ALL?

He massively overreacted in this situation, like multiple of the LI's did at other points. So if they are this trash and unredeemable for you, the MC should be too and this is maybe just not a story for you? (take your imagined masses your talking for with you while youre at it).

Read this again buddy, you're trying to put words into my mouth for the 30th time.
Or you're dyslexic, let me know if that is the case.



When he decided to flip his shit due to impatience and yell at people?
Did you just not play the start of the game?


And no one said otherwise, though I will say that Desiree is also flawed as fuck, no one should blindly trust a stranger like she does, which is why she has two friends that are overzealous in protecting her. You'd know this if you played the game.
That aside, while all sides are flawed, one side atleast has the wherewithal to reflect on his actions, whereas the girls for the most part clearly do not.

Man bro, youre wannabe attacks are utterly pathetic lol. "You would know this if you played the game" yuck

Do you feel better after this little tirade because of me saying desiree is less flawed than the other ones?

 

[Ciaran8023]

Bro you doing it one sentence later already again, i dont have to look anything up. Thanks.

Okay so you're dyslexic, got it.
Majority =/= everyone. You should probably learn that.

wrong with your opinions.

LMAO.

Yes 18 is young, and its exactly because shes such a fangirl that she reacted this disappointed and emotional towards him. You even were able to comprehend that shes usually more mature but fail entirely to comprehend why she is different and way more emotional with the MC.

At 18 you're allowed to vote, most states will allow you to drink, you're allowed to drive a car, own property, pay taxes etc.
It isn't young, it's one step down from a full-fledged adult and absolutely doesn't excuse her actions or behaviour at all.
With her fangirling as much as she does, she should've known how much the sport meant to the MC, and instead she goes "lmao you weak bitch, you left after one loss".
Like goddamn dude, it'll be hard to find a better example of employing shitty behaviour.

No, whining nonstop about a characters behavior and claiming it harms the retention of the avn just because you cant stand this LI while she doesnt seem unpopular at all in polls and being this harsh towards a 18 yo girl who reacted overemotional is what makes you a snowflake.

You second sentence is absent of any kind of logic bro. I already stated multiple times that i like the flawed characters here, i never claimed they are flawless.

I like the thing your crying about, do you understand that?

Arguing isn't whining, but I'd be hardpressed to think that you'd understand this.
Moreover, making a character completely unapproachable due to shitty behaviour is harming retention and interest. You literally have proof just a page back, and intermittently across the entire thread with people being annoyed due to the behaviour.

As said, I truly don't care that she's your waifu and you feel offended, but you can't handwave something and claim that it's a problem that doesn't exist when you literally replied to two people pointing out that problem.
There's such a thing called object permanence, just because you put on the blinders and only focus on positive comments doesn't mean that the thread doesn't have a fair few comments specifically about the introduction of the characters.

Yes people post about the characters behavior as many of them react flawed

HOLY SHIT YOU DID IT, I'M ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDED!
You went from literally two lines ago claiming that NO ONE dislikes the characters and the polls show it, to noting that they're actually flawed!
Amazing, truly, I'm absolutely impressed.

big majority

Do you know why AVN's exist when VN's already existed beforehand?
I'll give you some time to google it. The answer will shock you.
It's because it has porn in it, that's why most people choose to play AVN's over VN's.

Dude we have the choice to slap a girl in this avn and even if we dont do it, the MC is close to it and theres nothing we can do about it. And its not even a girl who was violent towards him like fiona, he was close to punching fucking eve who is entirely harmless and soft. HOW IS THAT RATIONAL AT ALL?

So you chose to slap someone, and you're using that as an argument?
Good job. Also, let me remind you again.

or atleast becoming more rational.

The MC has had some character growth, Eve has had some character growth, Zoey and Fiona has had literal zero and has yet to apologize for what they decided to do.

He massively overreacted in this situation, like multiple of the LI's did at other points.

So the MC is trash for overreacting, but the poor little baby LI's are infallible and thus are forgiven for overreacting?
Brother, I've never come across someone trying so hard to defend shitty behaviour. It's actually impressive.

So if they are this trash and unredeemable for you, the MC should be too

Where the fuck did I say that the MC is redeemable? Literally two posts ago I noted that the MC is acting like a bitch with his tantrums, do you think that's somehow a fucking compliment to him?
Again, point that out, because it's probably the 50th time you've been putting words in my mouth because you can't argue the actual points I bring up, other than going "BOOHOO THE GIRLS SHOULD BE FORGIVEN, BUT NOT THE MC, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BOTH FLAWED, THEY'RE CLEARLY LESS" or some variant of the same inane sentence regurgitated ad nauseum.

Do you feel better after this little tirade because of me saying desiree is less flawed than the other ones?

Did Desiree shit in your cereal or something?
Why are you so obsessed with her when NO ONE in the last like 10 pages has brought her up? You're the only one talking about her.

 

[Discrepancy]

Okay so you're dyslexic, got it.
Majority =/= everyone. You should probably learn that.



LMAO.



At 18 you're allowed to vote, most states will allow you to drink, you're allowed to drive a car, own property, pay taxes etc.
It isn't young, it's one step down from a full-fledged adult and absolutely doesn't excuse her actions or behaviour at all.
With her fangirling as much as she does, she should've known how much the sport meant to the MC, and instead she goes "lmao you weak bitch, you left after one loss".
Like goddamn dude, it'll be hard to find a better example of employing shitty behaviour.


Arguing isn't whining, but I'd be hardpressed to think that you'd understand this.
Moreover, making a character completely unapproachable due to shitty behaviour is harming retention and interest. You literally have proof just a page back, and intermittently across the entire thread with people being annoyed due to the behaviour.

As said, I truly don't care that she's your waifu and you feel offended, but you can't handwave something and claim that it's a problem that doesn't exist when you literally replied to two people pointing out that problem.
There's such a thing called object permanence, just because you put on the blinders and only focus on positive comments doesn't mean that the thread doesn't have a fair few comments specifically about the introduction of the characters.




HOLY SHIT YOU DID IT, I'M ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDED!
You went from literally two lines ago claiming that NO ONE dislikes the characters and the polls show it, to noting that they're actually flawed!
Amazing, truly, I'm absolutely impressed.


Do you know why AVN's exist when VN's already existed beforehand?
I'll give you some time to google it. The answer will shock you.
It's because it has porn in it, that's why most people choose to play AVN's over VN's.





So you chose to slap someone, and you're using that as an argument?
Good job. Also, let me remind you again.

The MC has had some character growth, Eve has had some character growth, Zoey and Fiona has had literal zero and has yet to apologize for what they decided to do.


So the MC is trash for overreacting, but the poor little baby LI's are infallible and thus are forgiven for overreacting?
Brother, I've never come across someone trying so hard to defend shitty behaviour. It's actually impressive.



Where the fuck did I say that the MC is redeemable? Literally two posts ago I noted that the MC is acting like a bitch with his tantrums, do you think that's somehow a fucking compliment to him?
Again, point that out, because it's probably the 50th time you've been putting words in my mouth because you can't argue the actual points I bring up, other than going "BOOHOO THE GIRLS SHOULD BE FORGIVEN, BUT NOT THE MC, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BOTH FLAWED, THEY'RE CLEARLY LESS" or some variant of the same inane sentence regurgitated ad nauseum.



Did Desiree shit in your cereal or something?
Why are you so obsessed with her when NO ONE in the last like 10 pages has brought her up? You're the only one talking about her.

I confess I just skipped what you wrote mostly, no offense but it's too much
But would you kindly answer a question of mine? What do you enjoy about this game? you clearly do not like the writing of the LIs and the conflict that comes with it? So what is it? you a big fan of volleyball?

 

[Ciaran8023]

I confess I just skipped what you wrote mostly, no offense but it's too much
But would you kindly answer a question of mine? What do you enjoy about this game? you clearly do not like the writing of the LIs and the conflict that comes with it? So what is it? you a big fan of volleyball?

I never said I didn't like the writing of the LI's, I dislike the initial interaction and their behaviour within them.
The latest update and the banter with Saki/Eve and the MC when training is actually good because it isn't filled with piss and vitriol at every turn.

It's something I've been saying this entire time, and as I noted to some other dude, I play AVN's for the story and for characters more than anything else. That being said, I can post a small paragraph and I have 7 dudes in a congaline blowing eachother and nitpicking words, so anything I write either gets misconstrued or lost in the sand.

EDIT- Though I will say, sports games have been growing on me so I do like the premise aswell.

 

[Discrepancy]

I never said I didn't like the writing of the LI's, I dislike the initial interaction and their behaviour within them.
The latest update and the banter with Saki/Eve and the MC when training is actually good because it isn't filled with piss and vitriol at every turn.

It's something I've been saying this entire time, and as I noted to some other dude, I play AVN's for the story and for characters more than anything else. That being said, I can post a small paragraph and I have 7 dudes in a congaline blowing eachother and nitpicking words, so anything I write either gets misconstrued or lost in the sand.

Fair enough, you were being so combative that I misjudged your opinion then.
Sometimes people get on the wrong foot or are misinterpreted for something they said, a bit like the girls in this game for you
I like the "piss and vitriol" as you call it, and some others like it too, I just think the way you put things feels like "I don't like thing hence is bad", and believe me I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but that is as you sounded to me and I assume for the others that replied to you.

 

[Ciaran8023]

Fair enough, you were being so combative that I misjudged your opinion then.
Sometimes people get on the wrong foot or are misinterpreted for something they said, a bit like the girls in this game for you
I like the "piss and vitriol" as you call it, and some others like it too, I just think the way you put things feels like "I don't like thing hence is bad", and believe me I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but that is as you sounded to me and I assume for the others that replied to you.

I wasn't actually being combative, I was trying to point out my actual argument to the people taking things either out of context, nitpicking words or misconstruing something.
I did get slightly combative against the last dude, I'll give you that, but it's also 2 AM and I have little patience for people deciding that personal insults hold water in an argument.

That being said, I'd like to clarify that I never noted that I believed the introduction and the antagonistic behaviour of the LI's to be problematic because I don't like it, but rather looking at it from an objective point of view as an AVN.
This is also why the whole 'purpose of AVN' discussion happened later on, but for arguments sake, the main thing I was trying to point out is that initial experiences within an AVN tends to matter a lot.
I've seen a lot of games get shafted hard for having a poor first release for example, and having characters be overly difficult to be around when most people who are on F95 tends to focus on lust/romance/lewds etc, tends to hurt more than help.

That's not to say that having difficult characters can't be done, I mean hell my favourite AVN and one of the most popular ones on the site, Summer's Gone, has a fairly difficult character in it. The main difference between that game and this however, is that instead of attacking the MC from the get-go whether intentional or not, the girl in Summer's Gone is more dismissive, cold and snarky.

There's always room for difficult characters, but there should also be a balance if you want to avoid unnecessary piles of comments, which this thread has had its fair share of thus far.

 

[Krytax123]

Okay so you're dyslexic, got it.
Majority =/= everyone. You should probably learn that.



LMAO.



At 18 you're allowed to vote, most states will allow you to drink, you're allowed to drive a car, own property, pay taxes etc.
It isn't young, it's one step down from a full-fledged adult and absolutely doesn't excuse her actions or behaviour at all.
With her fangirling as much as she does, she should've known how much the sport meant to the MC, and instead she goes "lmao you weak bitch, you left after one loss".
Like goddamn dude, it'll be hard to find a better example of employing shitty behaviour.


Arguing isn't whining, but I'd be hardpressed to think that you'd understand this.
Moreover, making a character completely unapproachable due to shitty behaviour is harming retention and interest. You literally have proof just a page back, and intermittently across the entire thread with people being annoyed due to the behaviour.

As said, I truly don't care that she's your waifu and you feel offended, but you can't handwave something and claim that it's a problem that doesn't exist when you literally replied to two people pointing out that problem.
There's such a thing called object permanence, just because you put on the blinders and only focus on positive comments doesn't mean that the thread doesn't have a fair few comments specifically about the introduction of the characters.




HOLY SHIT YOU DID IT, I'M ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDED!
You went from literally two lines ago claiming that NO ONE dislikes the characters and the polls show it, to noting that they're actually flawed!
Amazing, truly, I'm absolutely impressed.


Do you know why AVN's exist when VN's already existed beforehand?
I'll give you some time to google it. The answer will shock you.
It's because it has porn in it, that's why most people choose to play AVN's over VN's.





So you chose to slap someone, and you're using that as an argument?
Good job. Also, let me remind you again.

The MC has had some character growth, Eve has had some character growth, Zoey and Fiona has had literal zero and has yet to apologize for what they decided to do.


So the MC is trash for overreacting, but the poor little baby LI's are infallible and thus are forgiven for overreacting?
Brother, I've never come across someone trying so hard to defend shitty behaviour. It's actually impressive.



Where the fuck did I say that the MC is redeemable? Literally two posts ago I noted that the MC is acting like a bitch with his tantrums, do you think that's somehow a fucking compliment to him?
Again, point that out, because it's probably the 50th time you've been putting words in my mouth because you can't argue the actual points I bring up, other than going "BOOHOO THE GIRLS SHOULD BE FORGIVEN, BUT NOT THE MC, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BOTH FLAWED, THEY'RE CLEARLY LESS" or some variant of the same inane sentence regurgitated ad nauseum.



Did Desiree shit in your cereal or something?
Why are you so obsessed with her when NO ONE in the last like 10 pages has brought her up? You're the only one talking about her.

Man this is too much nonsensical bullshit at once at this point lol but i never said the mc is unredeemable, they are all flawed and all young and redeemable, thats the point.

Maybe sleep about it and read your nonsensical mess of a writeup again afterwards lol

You claiming im the one with the personal insults is a good joke after the last two posts from you, but i dont mind you being a bit bitchy bro

 

[Discrepancy]

That being said, I'd like to clarify that I never noted that I believed the introduction and the antagonistic behaviour of the LI's to be problematic because I don't like it, but rather looking at it from an objective point of view as an AVN.

I'm pretty sure you said the initial conflict with the LIs was annoying and unnecessary, you even wrote "piss and vitriol" on your last reply to me.
What you probably mean and I assume is: that as an objective point it isn't good for the AVN, but I'm pretty sure you didn't like it either
But this discussion is going in circles and won't go anywhere, as my final thoughts I will just say, if I had that first bad impression of the LIs at the beginning I would just drop the game as the other dude that was here arguing before.
So I admire you perseverance to play this till the current end

 

[Ciaran8023]

I'm pretty sure you said the initial conflict with the LIs was annoying and unnecessary, you even wrote "piss and vitriol" on your last reply to me.

Well yes, that is still with looking at it from an objective framing of an AVN.
I mean if you consider it yourself, if you're a nameless person hopping on F95 to find an AVN with some hot scenes, the initial release and the interactions with the LI would most likely leave you annoyed and you would feel that they're unnecessary. I mean it's pretty much verbatim what that other dude said, so I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination on my part.

What you probably mean and I assume is: that as an objective point it isn't good for the AVN, but I'm pretty sure you didn't like it either

I mean that's not really accurate either, just to specify, I dislike the way the dev decided to go about introducing drama, not that the drama exists.
It would've worked better if you had the characters show up for practice and then have their interpersonal issues pop up and have the MC try to navigate that, would've had the characters appear less irrational and difficult to interact with, and still would've led to the updates we are getting which delves into said issues.

As long as you have the right vector and pacing, you can make almost anything work, but having the wrong vector and pacing and you can make even the most miniscule thing feel like walking on broken glass.

But this discussion is going in circles and won't go anywhere, as my final thoughts I will just say, if I had that first bad impression of the LIs at the beginning I would just drop the game as the other dude that was here arguing before.
So I admire you perseverance to play this till the current end

Honestly, I did check out 0.2 just to see if ended up getting worse or not, since some games just pile on the cock and ball torture for no reason.
That being said, I also still have no idea how this game is apparently going to have a harem end with the personalities in the team. All of them have strong personalities and most of them don't really come off as meshing well with eachother.

But yeah, no reason to discuss further, it is what it is.

 

[iIIusory]

anyways... it looks like we'll probably get the new update here during the last week of september/early october

 

[Discrepancy]

anyways... it looks like we'll probably get the new update here during the last week of september/early october

Yeah, seems that way, this is the first update release since I started playing this game. Did it leak here on f95 close to release last time?

 

[iIIusory]

Yeah, seems that way, this is the first update release since I started playing this game. Did it leak here on f95 close to release last time?

it leaked a little less than 2 weeks after the highest tier's release date if i remember correctly. but he had much less patrons back then.

 

[Discrepancy]

it leaked a little less than 2 weeks after the highest tier's release date if i remember correctly. but he had much less patrons back then.

Nice, I might subscribe if it takes too much time, think the game is worth it

 

[TheBigTT]

Yeah, seems that way, this is the first update release since I started playing this game. Did it leak here on f95 close to release last time?

0.2 Release Schedules:

TIGER tier - December 27, 2024 9am (UTC)
LIONESS tier - December 30, 2024 9am (UTC)
COUGAR tier - January 2, 2025 9am (UTC)
PANTHER tier - January 7, 2025 9am (UTC)
SNOW LEOPARD tier - January 12, 2024 9am (UTC)
OCELOT tier - January 14, 2024 9am (UTC)
Public Release - January 17, 2024 9am (UTC)


It was leaked on Jan 7, which was the release date of the PANTHER tier, 10 days after the highest tier release, 10 days before the public release.

 

[WARETZ]

Just started the game and tried the bad ending with Lexi, and been curious. What happened there after the MC relieve Lexi to a stranger?