Unreal Engine Wild Life [2024.12.13 Full Build 1] [Adeptus Steve]
- Thread starter Pepé Le Pew
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You can spawn other characters and possess them. Bring up the menu to spawn them with T.
- Jan 7, 2018
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this maybe the most polished game in this website that I've played the shooting range and the gore test is amazing... besides the fucking I like the shooting thing i hope that the next update we can kill all of the character with the guns
- Jan 7, 2018
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Thank u! but this is the test build i want the new one the Full Version.
We’re sharing a digital file. It’s zeros and ones. You aren’t stealing anything.
Consider contributing to the patreon if you enjoy it, though.
Doesn't make it not illegal mate. It's not likely anybody is going to come knocking on your door for downloading a few porn games but it's still definitely against the rules.
- Jan 4, 2018
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- May 17, 2017
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You could use this argument when talking about money, how well do you think that would go?
This is a rhetorical question to point out your short-sightness, don't answer.
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That is a very weak argument.
You could argue that your bank account information is stored as 0s and 1s, as a digital file, on a bank's servers. Would it be stealing if someone took numerical data from it and transferred it to another account? I think you would argue that it is stealing.
So, don't try to justify it. Piracy is piracy. Each of us do it for different reasons, but at the end of the day it is still piracy.
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However, I do see it as highway robbery to charge for a product that isn't even close to being finished. It would be different if it was a one-time fee, to get Early Access, like any game on Steam or GOG. But when a title is asking for literally more money per month than a Game Subscription or more than AAA, even with microtransactions, then I have less issue with pirating it. Maybe at some point I'll drop a single month's amount on it, to assuage possible guilt at some point, but right now, I pirate things that are incomplete products.
That is a very weak argument.
You could argue that your bank account information is stored as 0s and 1s, as a digital file, on a bank's servers. Would it be stealing if someone took numerical data from it and transferred it to another account? I think you would argue that it is stealing.
So, don't try to justify it. Piracy is piracy. Each of us do it for different reasons, but at the end of the day it is still piracy.
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However, I do see it as highway robbery to charge for a product that isn't even close to being finished. It would be different if it was a one-time fee, to get Early Access, like any game on Steam or GOG. But when a title is asking for literally more money per month than a Game Subscription or more than AAA, even with microtransactions, then I have less issue with pirating it. Maybe at some point I'll drop a single month's amount on it, to assuage possible guilt at some point, but right now, I pirate things that are incomplete products.
If the game will be 15-20 bucks when it's released, then let people pay 20 bucks to get permanent updates. If it's gonna be 60, then charge 60. The notion of paying 25 PER MONTH for early updates of an unfinished game is flat out insulting.
Also, if a dev is making 90,000 per month they better damn well be hiring a lot of of people to make development faster. Do people not realize how much can be done in a month alone, let alone with 90,000 to spend?
Why anyone gives a shit about pirating games like this is beyond me.
Also, if a dev is making 90,000 per month they better damn well be hiring a lot of of people to make development faster. Do people not realize how much can be done in a month alone, let alone with 90,000 to spend?
Why anyone gives a shit about pirating games like this is beyond me.
- Nov 22, 2019
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25$ is for the tester role, the game itself is 10 bugs a month. Still a big fee.
What is very bold is to tell people they would hire more people when reaching 100.000. I mean, what the actual fuck. They only have 16 people in the office. WTF do they pay themselves? Game isn't even nearly done and they already fill their pockets. They should invest the money and hire more people. Hope they never make the 100k, this is just bullshit.
What is very bold is to tell people they would hire more people when reaching 100.000. I mean, what the actual fuck. They only have 16 people in the office. WTF do they pay themselves? Game isn't even nearly done and they already fill their pockets. They should invest the money and hire more people. Hope they never make the 100k, this is just bullshit.
To be fair, they probably are investing the money, in case of a rainy day. Such as if they were to royally piss off their current Patreons, and suddenly find themselves only earning 40k a month, and yet still have to keep paying staff.
Also more staff doesn't mean higher productivity. More staff means you need more coordination, communication, and uniform development standards. For example: Take Elder Scrolls: Morrowind, a game that most feel is one of the best games in existence. Then take Fallout 76, deadpanned as a piece of shit. Same developer, but when they made Fallout 76, they had roughly 4x the staff as they did with Morrowind.
So, the lesson is, grow the team at a rate that is beneficial for the development team.
Also more staff doesn't mean higher productivity. More staff means you need more coordination, communication, and uniform development standards. For example: Take Elder Scrolls: Morrowind, a game that most feel is one of the best games in existence. Then take Fallout 76, deadpanned as a piece of shit. Same developer, but when they made Fallout 76, they had roughly 4x the staff as they did with Morrowind.
So, the lesson is, grow the team at a rate that is beneficial for the development team.
What? Did you just hear the number 100k and think that sounds like some huge amount of money per month to run a company off of?
Let's do some quick math right?
First, the 100k from patreon isn't tax free. That shit is income and must be taxed as income. Since the office is in germany let's assume they pay tax there. The income tax in germany for an individual (which probably differs from a company but idk for sure so let's assume individual which is probably lower than a company's tax) works on a sliding scale starting at 9408 euro and caps out at 57,051 euro at 42% which is 63,000 USD. That means on every dollar over 63k they pay 42% in tax and they lose some amount under 63k to tax. I'm going to estimate here because I don't know how to find Germany's equivalent of a schedule E. They're definitely paying 42% of 37k which is 15,540 plus the amount of tax up to that 63k which let's be generous and say it's only 20% WHICH IS DEFINITELY LESS than it really is. So thats 15,540+(.2*63k). That is 28,000 dollars gone in income tax before the company even touches it.
We know they have an office in Berlin. I don't know if all 16 people are working out of the office but let's assume at least 10 are. That office isn't free, it's going to cost some amount of money in rent and utilities and taxes and shit to run.
My office costs about 3k a month to run and it's in a rural location and only big enough for 3-4 people at once. So let's estimate 15k for the office. It could be alot higher but I doubt it's all that much lower. That leaves 57k to pay staff.
Not everybody is going to make the same amount but we can pretty easily find out the average pay is 57/16=3.5k per month, which by the way is AGAIN subject to income tax because the government wants their bite of the pie. Thats an average salary of about 42,000 per year, or 21 bucks an hour. That means some of the senior staff are going to be making more and some of the junior staff less but that seems pretty fucking fair to me.
And we didn't even account for business expenses like licensing software.
Look, I pirated their game and I don't pay for their patreon because I can't afford to and/or don't want to (sorry devs) but let's not try to justify it with dumb shit k?
Let's do some quick math right?
First, the 100k from patreon isn't tax free. That shit is income and must be taxed as income. Since the office is in germany let's assume they pay tax there. The income tax in germany for an individual (which probably differs from a company but idk for sure so let's assume individual which is probably lower than a company's tax) works on a sliding scale starting at 9408 euro and caps out at 57,051 euro at 42% which is 63,000 USD. That means on every dollar over 63k they pay 42% in tax and they lose some amount under 63k to tax. I'm going to estimate here because I don't know how to find Germany's equivalent of a schedule E. They're definitely paying 42% of 37k which is 15,540 plus the amount of tax up to that 63k which let's be generous and say it's only 20% WHICH IS DEFINITELY LESS than it really is. So thats 15,540+(.2*63k). That is 28,000 dollars gone in income tax before the company even touches it.
We know they have an office in Berlin. I don't know if all 16 people are working out of the office but let's assume at least 10 are. That office isn't free, it's going to cost some amount of money in rent and utilities and taxes and shit to run.
My office costs about 3k a month to run and it's in a rural location and only big enough for 3-4 people at once. So let's estimate 15k for the office. It could be alot higher but I doubt it's all that much lower. That leaves 57k to pay staff.
Not everybody is going to make the same amount but we can pretty easily find out the average pay is 57/16=3.5k per month, which by the way is AGAIN subject to income tax because the government wants their bite of the pie. Thats an average salary of about 42,000 per year, or 21 bucks an hour. That means some of the senior staff are going to be making more and some of the junior staff less but that seems pretty fucking fair to me.
And we didn't even account for business expenses like licensing software.
Look, I pirated their game and I don't pay for their patreon because I can't afford to and/or don't want to (sorry devs) but let's not try to justify it with dumb shit k?
- Feb 18, 2018
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Nope... I can't figure out how to change it. All I know is that the pixel density was turned down, according to the developer I talked to about it. I also asked if they could turn it up in the next build, and all they said to me was, "We’ll see." They said they had to turn it down to get better performance, but it ran well on my PC before the change and I'm running a GTX 1080. I wish they would at least give us the option to make adjustments ourselves for that stuff.
I get that VR is a small crowd right now so they don’t really care, but it's a growing crowd, and I know a lot of us support the project just for the VR. It would be worth it for them to at least have a VR viewing experience built into a game. I don’t think the whole game needs to be played in VR because the game is not being built with that in mind, and it doesn’t need to be. But having the option to pop in to view scenes in VR makes for a really nice experience. It just really sucks to see they are moving away from the VR option...
If they added Basic Playable VR support i'd surely start support them..since i would always play Wild Life in VR lol.
I'ts just mindblowing in VR.
I'ts just mindblowing in VR.