DKOC

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I'm not sure Patreon money is considered income; I believe most countries considers it a donation. Kickstarter/Indiegogo, is considered Investment Capital, and that can be taxed, but donations generally are not. Income implies that you delivered on something and received payment in turn; ie if you are a plumber and you do plumbing work and get paid for it, that is income. As Patreon doesn't actually imply that you have to deliver on anything, I don't think their money is taxable.

Developers often want an office space because then they can have a communal game room, where people can unwind between development bursts. Developing is a burst-type of thing, where you get something done for an hour or so, and then need a break before another burst. Developers that try to maintain a longer burst, often will make mistakes that will require them to go back and fix things after the fact.

Also 42k a year for a developer in Germany is very low. The average programmer in Germany makes between 90 to 110k. 42k may be a liveable income, but when other jobs are basically offering double of 42k, it wouldn't make sense to pay them 42k.
 
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MrCrazy123

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I'm not sure Patreon money is considered income;
I actually googled that before I made my response and it's definitely taxable income.

The other poster might be right in that germany may allow certain deductables depending on what you spend the money on but I doubt you're going to get away tax free with the 100k before you start paying expenses.

Either way though we agree that 100k breaks down into reasonable/low pay very quickly and these people complaining about being ripped off or w/e don't have a leg to stand on.
 

Porn_Jesus

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I love that quite a few people see a $$$ number and forget that it's not for only one person. There's an entire studio that needs cash if something breaks (and perhaps is only rented), over 10 people who want to eat, enjoy life and have to pay taxes and many more things i have no idea about cuz i never was in such a situation.

But sure...they probably invest the cash into drugs and whores for 24/7 party and the game programs itself. :ROFLMAO:
 

poiuzxcklj

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What people here always seem to forget, or just more of the same ill informed opinions arrive with new users, is that they dont charge you 10$ a month for their finished product. It is not a sales agreement. Its a support pledge for a running production, which is a completely different thing. You arent entitled to product support, or a refund, you cant hold them accountable for missing dates. You pledge on patreon to make this game development possible and they reward you with work in progress versions as they go. Thats all there is to it.
If everyone were like you, thinking not paying because the game isnt finished justifies pirating it here and on top of that talk shit and insult the devs then the game wouldnt even exist at all. So turn your brains on again and have a little gratitude that someone else out there is actually paying them so they can do this.
i don't have a single issue with patreon, if the game is progressing nicely though. 10 a month adds up. After a few months you've paid for the cost of the game, but in some cases, the game has barely progressed. It feels like you're running in place.

I stopped supporting after the previous update failed to bring much new. It's clear the game isn't progressing outside of a model here and there and a few animations. Are they really going to just keep spending time on animations and no other game play? That lead me to believe the game isn't really going anywhere. I'm happy to be proven wrong though! I'd love to see this game turned into a survival game or something (why make another fetch quest game!?!?!)

as far as spending money, people need to see a return. People here act like we should be happy to just give money to people on patreon cause it's the good, honest thing to do. To heck with that! You want my money, you better earn it!
 
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karbas

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Is it possible to have multiple characters have sex at the same time (not talking about group sex)?
 

DennTaku

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Jan 17, 2019
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How do you even play this game?

It won't load past the age disclaimer for me. Refuses to even acknowledge that I've pressed the button
 

FlyingDrums

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Is it possible to have multiple characters have sex at the same time (not talking about group sex)?
no
Actually, it is. Here's a with a list of group scenes. In order to do these scenes, you have to walk up to each participant and tell them to follow you. Once you have all members there will be a new option for "Sex [Group]"

Edit: Wait, nevermind. I just saw that you said "not talking about group sex". Ignore me lol :ROFLMAO:
 

FlyingDrums

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i don't have a single issue with patreon, if the game is progressing nicely though. 10 a month adds up. After a few months you've paid for the cost of the game, but in some cases, the game has barely progressed. It feels like you're running in place.

I stopped supporting after the previous update failed to bring much new. It's clear the game isn't progressing outside of a model here and there and a few animations. Are they really going to just keep spending time on animations and no other game play? That lead me to believe the game isn't really going anywhere. I'm happy to be proven wrong though! I'd love to see this game turned into a survival game or something (why make another fetch quest game!?!?!)

as far as spending money, people need to see a return. People here act like we should be happy to just give money to people on patreon cause it's the good, honest thing to do. To heck with that! You want my money, you better earn it!
You don't have to keep supporting them in between updates. If a new version comes out, give them the 10 bucks for the month then cancel your subscription after you downloaded the new version.

As far as update content goes, I can't remember where I read it, but they have a pretty good team of people working on some massive improvements set to be released throughout the year. These changes take a lot of time, of course, which is why we are only seeing small updates with nothing more than new/reworked animations. I assume they are separate teams, so while one team works on the big stuff, the other team can work on the smaller stuff and release minor updates as they go along.
 

Delwyn

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Hey, I'm so glad they enabled VR again, I only play this in VR mode, but it looks blurry as hell. I have checked the config files and there is no VR option! With high end graphics, it should be possible to get better resolution!

Does somebody have any clue on how to improve the VR quality? Sorry to bring this up again :/
 

YosukeLUL

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A character named Jenny on the list of animations says she has an avariant futa, where do I find or release this variant?
 

FlyingDrums

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I hope there will be more futa characters eventually. Or even an option to give any of the female characters a dick would be meat neat
 
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