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marmaduke

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Vincenza said:
other publishers are at least honest and sell their game on public platforms like steam. to get financed by patreon and then not deliver a finished game for years is just cheeky.
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Did they promise to deliver the game now tho? Is the game at a point where it would really make sense to put it on steam? Are games finished instantly upon funding? No, they are still in the middle of development. Just stop man, you are making a fool of yourself.
Besides, being powerless against something doesnt mean you have to openly support it.
 
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loophole1

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Latest update is probably my favourite one yet. More Shey + Shey + Max animations where he's basically being crushed between their bodies. Love to see some straight femdom in the game. This shit''s the best
 
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Vincenza

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marmaduke said:
Did they promise to deliver the game now tho? Is the game at a point where it would really make sense to put it on steam? Are games finished instantly upon funding? No, they are still in the middle of development. Just stop man, you are making a fool of yourself.
Besides, being powerless against something doesnt mean you have to openly support it.
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i make myself what? ridiculous? of course, everyone who writes the truth makes himself ridiculous. that's the course of time. especially in this forum. i have a question for you. do you get money from these incompetent guys to preach this shit?
 
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marmaduke

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You mean, YOUR truth. I just dont get your point dude. You could try a nicer and more structured way of communicating instead of calling names cursing.
And no I dont get money for preaching common sense.
 
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ILI42

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MrCrazy123 said:
First, the 100k from patreon isn't tax free. That shit is income and must be taxed as income. Since the office is in germany let's assume they pay tax there. The income tax in germany for an individual (which probably differs from a company but idk for sure so let's assume individual which is probably lower than a company's tax) works on a sliding scale starting at 9408 euro and caps out at 57,051 euro at 42% which is 63,000 USD. That means on every dollar over 63k they pay 42% in tax and they lose some amount under 63k to tax. I'm going to estimate here because I don't know how to find Germany's equivalent of a schedule E. They're definitely paying 42% of 37k which is 15,540 plus the amount of tax up to that 63k which let's be generous and say it's only 20% WHICH IS DEFINITELY LESS than it really is. So thats 15,540+(.2*63k). That is 28,000 dollars gone in income tax before the company even touches it.
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if you do "some" math as example you should do it right, because thats not how it works. They can write of the taxes from their income if they spent it on employment loans, equipment, etc...

Also i don't see why they need a office for something that can be developed from home. End of the day it's on them how they spend their money, people give it to them willingly.
 
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DKOC

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I'm not sure Patreon money is considered income; I believe most countries considers it a donation. Kickstarter/Indiegogo, is considered Investment Capital, and that can be taxed, but donations generally are not. Income implies that you delivered on something and received payment in turn; ie if you are a plumber and you do plumbing work and get paid for it, that is income. As Patreon doesn't actually imply that you have to deliver on anything, I don't think their money is taxable.

Developers often want an office space because then they can have a communal game room, where people can unwind between development bursts. Developing is a burst-type of thing, where you get something done for an hour or so, and then need a break before another burst. Developers that try to maintain a longer burst, often will make mistakes that will require them to go back and fix things after the fact.

Also 42k a year for a developer in Germany is very low. The average programmer in Germany makes between 90 to 110k. 42k may be a liveable income, but when other jobs are basically offering double of 42k, it wouldn't make sense to pay them 42k.
 
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MrCrazy123

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DKOC said:
I'm not sure Patreon money is considered income;
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I actually googled that before I made my response and it's definitely taxable income.

The other poster might be right in that germany may allow certain deductables depending on what you spend the money on but I doubt you're going to get away tax free with the 100k before you start paying expenses.

Either way though we agree that 100k breaks down into reasonable/low pay very quickly and these people complaining about being ripped off or w/e don't have a leg to stand on.
 
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I love that quite a few people see a $$$ number and forget that it's not for only one person. There's an entire studio that needs cash if something breaks (and perhaps is only rented), over 10 people who want to eat, enjoy life and have to pay taxes and many more things i have no idea about cuz i never was in such a situation.

But sure...they probably invest the cash into drugs and whores for 24/7 party and the game programs itself. :ROFLMAO:
 
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poiuzxcklj

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marmaduke said:
What people here always seem to forget, or just more of the same ill informed opinions arrive with new users, is that they dont charge you 10$ a month for their finished product. It is not a sales agreement. Its a support pledge for a running production, which is a completely different thing. You arent entitled to product support, or a refund, you cant hold them accountable for missing dates. You pledge on patreon to make this game development possible and they reward you with work in progress versions as they go. Thats all there is to it.
If everyone were like you, thinking not paying because the game isnt finished justifies pirating it here and on top of that talk shit and insult the devs then the game wouldnt even exist at all. So turn your brains on again and have a little gratitude that someone else out there is actually paying them so they can do this.
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i don't have a single issue with patreon, if the game is progressing nicely though. 10 a month adds up. After a few months you've paid for the cost of the game, but in some cases, the game has barely progressed. It feels like you're running in place.

I stopped supporting after the previous update failed to bring much new. It's clear the game isn't progressing outside of a model here and there and a few animations. Are they really going to just keep spending time on animations and no other game play? That lead me to believe the game isn't really going anywhere. I'm happy to be proven wrong though! I'd love to see this game turned into a survival game or something (why make another fetch quest game!?!?!)

as far as spending money, people need to see a return. People here act like we should be happy to just give money to people on patreon cause it's the good, honest thing to do. To heck with that! You want my money, you better earn it!
 
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karbas

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Is it possible to have multiple characters have sex at the same time (not talking about group sex)?
 
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DennTaku

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Jan 17, 2019
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How do you even play this game?

It won't load past the age disclaimer for me. Refuses to even acknowledge that I've pressed the button
 
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