LemonTree4

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What they should do is marry the narrative with the sandbox part, but NOT having a fully linear, tightly-structured story, but rather a series of objectives. The world could be semi-open, with new areas opening up once conditions are met.

Instead of being tied playing a specific character, create (or pick) your own. With how hte game is set-up it sounds liek the best option: you crash-land and explore the world to try to survive. Find other survivors and locals, build a base. Make friends or enemies. Bring them in your base/camp or fight them or whatever.

Heck, locations of survivors could even be semi-randomized. Quests they give you too.


Last time I played, you crashland, then 2 minutes later find a camp with everyone inside and just have sex. Actually exploring the island, searching for people, some basic survival would have been nice.
I agree with this. This game's potential is a missed opportunity. The sandbox construction as well as character creation are already in place. Adding npcs with randomly generated slider values and some rudimentary survival like chopping trees or killing wild animals would turn this game into conan exiles but with fucking which I'm sure many people would be eager to play. This is the only way of salvaging this disaster.
 
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godhan69

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No no, you see, the amount of current content makes sense for a game being funded and developed since 2017! You entitled brat just don't realize the amount of time and effort it takes, give them more money on patreon...Now! I'm sure they'll finish it in 2025 if you just give them enough money.
yeah people/devs saying it will be finished by 2025 are smoking something because even sandbox aside the game is still extremely barebones, feels almost like a unreal engine demo.

Watch the game will release in a half broken state with a big empty map with barely functioning ai at this point especially if it releases in 2025, this thing at the rate it is going needs another 2 or 3 years at best with how they are going.
 

djr7

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yeah people/devs saying it will be finished by 2025 are smoking something because even sandbox aside the game is still extremely barebones, feels almost like a unreal engine demo.

Watch the game will release in a half broken state with a big empty map with barely functioning ai at this point especially if it releases in 2025, this thing at the rate it is going needs another 2 or 3 years at best with how they are going.
wdym barebones?
imo barebones would be just a sex scene player with all the pairings.
the sandbox literally allows you to create an insane amount of custom content and even gameplay
you have coding implementation, in-game event scripting, and a whole ass animation sequencer to create custom animations, not to mention ability to import custom assets and it even provides building blocks for to you make things.

if you wanted to you can make a fully working PONG arcade, or a custom FNAF style game, or even your own adventure game.
what kind of content do you think is missing?
 
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Purple_Heart

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wdym barebones?
imo barebones would be just a sex scene player with all the pairings.
the sandbox literally allows you to create an insane amount of custom content and even gameplay
you have coding implementation, in-game event scripting, and a whole ass animation sequencer to create custom animations, not to mention ability to import custom assets and it even provides building blocks for to you make things.

if you wanted to you can make a fully working PONG arcade, or a custom FNAF style game, or even your own adventure game.
what kind of content do you think is missing?
The game itself is missing. It is hard to NOT call a game barebones when the game itself is almost entirely missing. Those features you describe sounds like developer work. If I wanted to "play" as a "developer" I'd "play" unreal engine.
 

BeholdTheWizzard

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The thing is they made a big mistake by splitting sandbox and singlepalyer. Sandbox should just be singleplayer with everyting unlocked and everyone recruited.
The current sandbox already has almost everything, it just needs a coherent structure and gameplay to tie it together.

And factions/relations.
Add a starting position for the player, spread NPC's around.
Player explores, gathers resources, builds up camp.
Recruiting a NPC would ential doing quests, saving them or convincing them your camp is better. NPC's on recruitment give some resources (or they can be assigned to roles).

Thing is, with a setup like this you can have freedom to paly as any character - including Kerpali. For them, the start would be different - instead of crashlanding, their village gets destryed by debris and they scatter. So basically the same basic game loop, only different starting position.
 

godhan69

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wdym barebones?
imo barebones would be just a sex scene player with all the pairings.
the sandbox literally allows you to create an insane amount of custom content and even gameplay
you have coding implementation, in-game event scripting, and a whole ass animation sequencer to create custom animations, not to mention ability to import custom assets and it even provides building blocks for to you make things.

if you wanted to you can make a fully working PONG arcade, or a custom FNAF style game, or even your own adventure game.
what kind of content do you think is missing?
well maybe i should have rephased that the game itself was barebone outside of the sandbox which i don't think this game was sold too it's supporters as being in the first place.
 

project 4

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this is still in development.... wow.... and all i need to do to get my nipples hardened is load free roam, and two characters. at this point, they should abandon the "game" part and just keep making more characters and more sex scenes, just... make more maps. the mountainous desert is getting boring.
 

Muchos

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I expected more animation sharing since they have the new editor, is it easy to share the animations you create?
 

SortaLewd

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well maybe i should have rephased that the game itself was barebone outside of the sandbox which i don't think this game was sold too it's supporters as being in the first place.
The supporters were the ones requesting more sandbox features lol. In the previous Discord server, the one that got hacked, majority of the features that are included in sandbox now were requested by patrons. The recent animation sequencer was a long time request, people have been hoping to create custom animations for some years now and they got it. I think there's a disconnect here with some of the people that don't own the game and the actual people supporting the game. If you were active in the official Discord servers you would see all the Sandbox updates being well received because people were literally asking for them. This was also the case in the Patreon comments from what I saw while reading patch notes. The old Discord server is gone AFAIK but you can probably go back and look at old Patreon patch notes and read some of the comments to see this.
 
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Purple_Heart

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I think there's a disconnect here with some of the people that don't own the game and the actual people supporting the game. If you were active in the official Discord servers you would see all the Sandbox updates being well received because people were literally asking for them. This was also the case in the Patreon comments from what I saw while reading patch notes. The old Discord server is gone AFAIK but you can probably go back and look at old Patreon patch notes and read some of the comments to see this.
"Hey guys lets demand anything but the actual game and its completion!"
Patreon and discord users prove themselves to be lacking in smarts department once again.
 

BigBiggieBig

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"Hey guys lets demand anything but the actual game and its completion!"
Patreon and discord users prove themselves to be lacking in smarts department once again.
I don't understand what the correlation is between Discord users and brain damage, but every time a developer starts making absolutely idiotic choices you can be 90% sure it traces back to their Discord server userbase telling them to do so.
 

djr7

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The game itself is missing. It is hard to NOT call a game barebones when the game itself is almost entirely missing. Those features you describe sounds like developer work. If I wanted to "play" as a "developer" I'd "play" unreal engine.
you misread, was strictly referring to the sandbox, not the "game"

well maybe i should have rephased that the game itself was barebone outside of the sandbox which i don't think this game was sold too it's supporters as being in the first place.
thanks for clarifying what you meant, and yea there isn't a game here, these are all development builds, the devs communicated with the community about whether they'd like to see some of the quests implemented which is what they've been doing. anyone expecting any sort of full game experience have to wait till it's done. it seems pretty clear what your support contributes to on their patreon page. supporters and the community have been all for the sandbox implementations. even if you don't personally like the sandbox or don't understand it, doesn't mean teh actual game isn't being worked on. Last I checked I think they mainly just had 1 guy working on majority of sandbox
 

djr7

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"Hey guys lets demand anything but the actual game and its completion!"
Patreon and discord users prove themselves to be lacking in smarts department once again.
what point is there to demand the game be finished when they continue to post progress reports and have given us an eta of 2025? Like yea, they're working on it, what more are they suppose to do?
 

Eepy Poss

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what point is there to demand the game be finished when they continue to post progress reports and have given us an eta of 2025? Like yea, they're working on it, what more are they suppose to do?
Probably because every update is like "we added x amount of animations to the sandbox" and then the actual gameplay aspect is never there despite it being 7 or more years in development now. Honestly at this point I feel like they should just rebrand to an animation sandbox and don't even bother with the game part. I can't possibly see it happening at the pace they're going.
 

SortaLewd

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Probably because every update is like "we added x amount of animations to the sandbox" and then the actual gameplay aspect is never there despite it being 7 or more years in development now. Honestly at this point I feel like they should just rebrand to an animation sandbox and don't even bother with the game part. I can't possibly see it happening at the pace they're going.
Looking through F95 and Steam, I've seen this complaint alot in EA/open development games where people don't understand that just because something is progressing in one area doesn't mean it isn't also progressing in another(albeit, I get it, things are slow). This goes for development in general, not just in games, but teams are composed of people working on different things, so for example an animator isn't going to be programming mechanics into the story portion of the game, so if animations are done and ready to be shipped there's no real reason to not add them to sandbox. Things being added to sandbox doesn't mean progress isn't being made elsewhere, it means these are different team members working on different things at the same time. Someone working on assets isn't going to be making quests. Various members/teams can finish their own tasks at different times and then they submit and move on to whatever tasks they have to complete next. In development there are times when the progress of one team can postpone the progress of another, but that isn't the case here if things are still being added. FWIW I have a degree in IT Web and Soft Dev and this is something I learned during my courses so it's cool seeing that knowledge come into play here.
 
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BigBiggieBig

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Things being added to sandbox doesn't mean progress isn't being made elsewhere, it means these are different team members working on different things at the same time. Someone working on assets isn't going to be making quests.
No offense, my man, but this sounds like concentrated Copium. Let's assume you're right and this magical team of people has been working on this new content that isn't just a bunch of animations...How come they haven't added even a single quest to showcase their quest system? How come they haven't showcased a trailer or a gameplay video of whatever it is they were making?

There is no conceivable chance on this entire galaxy that a 'studio' wouldn't produce some sort of promo trailer to showcase what they were working on in order to garner even more support via crowdfunding.

Screenshots of store-bought unity landscapes with Maya slapped on top don't exactly impress me, unfortunately. If they legit have nothing worth presenting in its current state then they've been doing fuck-all this entire time, and I do not believe for one moment that they're keeping it a secret cause that would make them a bunch of morons.

Overall, I don't believe they're working on anything besides animations and other sandbox tools to milk modders dry who will, in turn, bring around a number of players as well as patrons in order to be milked dry as well. They're running it in what can only be called 'Maintenance Mode' where they do the bare minimum in order to keep the money flowing.

I could be wrong, mind you, but I highly doubt it and I highly doubt the integrity of the devs.
 

SortaLewd

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No offense, my man, but this sounds like concentrated Copium. Let's assume you're right and this magical team of people has been working on this new content that isn't just a bunch of animations...
If you can't take my word about teams being split to tackle various tasks you can just do a quick search on any kind of development really, like I said this isn't unique to game development, any business has groups of people focusing different things, if everyone locked in on one thing at a time we probably wouldn't even have Sandbox in the capacity it's in atm.

Also, we all get the game for free here. On the chance this game fails I wouldn't lose anything other than a pretty good would-be porn game, I'm not a patron there's nothing for me to cope over.

How come they haven't added even a single quest to showcase their quest system?
I'm going to assume you haven't messed around with any of the recent builds, they have been including WIP missions for around a year or two now.

How come they haven't showcased a trailer or a gameplay video of whatever it is they were making?
AFAIK they haven't done any recent cinematic trailers, but they do post development videos/clips in Patreon patch notes and on their Youtube channel every now and then showing what they're working on/progressing. Here are some recent ones from the Youtube channel: [ ] [ ] [ ]

There is no conceivable chance on this entire galaxy that a 'studio' wouldn't produce some sort of promo trailer to showcase what they were working on in order to garner even more support via crowdfunding.
On one side of the coin, if you take a look at Larian Studios that just won GOTY for Baldur's Gate 3, . Patch notes and development update videos every now and then. Now on the other side of the coin, if you take a look at Star Citizen that does do promotional videos for new updates, you see people complaining about wasting dev money on trailers rather than on the game. People will find an issue regardless of what devs do when it comes to trailers during EA/open development. I personally lean more towards just saving trailers for the final release, dev updates is enough for me.

Screenshots of store-bought unity landscapes with Maya slapped on top don't exactly impress me, unfortunately.
I don't follow WL every patch so no idea what this is about, mind linking?

If they legit have nothing worth presenting in its current state then they've been doing fuck-all this entire time, and I do not believe for one moment that they're keeping it a secret cause that would make them a bunch of morons.
The patch notes are free to view on Patreon, everything included in new builds are mentioned in the patch notes, AFAIK nothing on that end is being hidden.

Overall, I don't believe they're working on anything besides animations and other sandbox tools to milk modders dry who will, in turn, bring around a number of players as well as patrons in order to be milked dry as well. They're running it in what can only be called 'Maintenance Mode' where they do the bare minimum in order to keep the money flowing.

I could be wrong, mind you, but I highly doubt it and I highly doubt the integrity of the devs.
I don't blame people for being skeptical of Patreon porn games, I personally wasted $36 on Fallen Doll years ago just for the dev to switch up on what the game was originally "sold" to be lol. I just think the WL devs have been clear about the direction they're going and have been consistent.
 
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