dodactem

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This "game" has always seemed too good to be true since I saw it for the first time on youtube in like 2016ish. It's a fantastic animation gallery with extra steps. There's no meaningful gameplay loop, unfortunately.

"...you want our character artists/animators to just idle and do nothing while the level artists and game designers work..."

What if you had them start working on paired grappling animations for battlefuck elements, or basically, any transition from some sort of idle state to struggling, teasing, hugging, dancing, etc. For a project of this magnitude, any degree of interactivity with the world or integration into the gameplay would provide endless fun.

Increase the player's control or lack thereof. I want to feel like the character I'm playing as. I don't want to feel like I'm a person at a computer picking some sex menu item inside a digital sandbox. Immersion is always king above all else.

A disclaimer, I don't know what's changed since I haven't given the game a shot in a couple years now, though, assuming from the recent posts in here... not much has changed. Maybe the teams already working towards stuff like this! In that case, great job, I'm excited.
 

JohnVans

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Hey, I have a quick question. The last time I played this game was way back in 2019, I was wondering how for is the storyline goes and how much more optimized has it become? Cheer to anyone answering my question!
 

limesseur

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Hey, I have a quick question. The last time I played this game was way back in 2019, I was wondering how for is the storyline goes and how much more optimized has it become? Cheer to anyone answering my question!
Optimization still isn't that great, but the story has more to it than before and has some playtime to it. Honestly I say just give it a try if your computer can handle it, which I recommend setting graphics to medium and turning off raytracing by setting the global illumination setting to screenspace or just off.
 
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limesseur

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This "game" has always seemed too good to be true since I saw it for the first time on youtube in like 2016ish. It's a fantastic animation gallery with extra steps. There's no meaningful gameplay loop, unfortunately.

"...you want our character artists/animators to just idle and do nothing while the level artists and game designers work..."

What if you had them start working on paired grappling animations for battlefuck elements, or basically, any transition from some sort of idle state to struggling, teasing, hugging, dancing, etc. For a project of this magnitude, any degree of interactivity with the world or integration into the gameplay would provide endless fun.

Increase the player's control or lack thereof. I want to feel like the character I'm playing as. I don't want to feel like I'm a person at a computer picking some sex menu item inside a digital sandbox. Immersion is always king above all else.

A disclaimer, I don't know what's changed since I haven't given the game a shot in a couple years now, though, assuming from the recent posts in here... not much has changed. Maybe the teams already working towards stuff like this! In that case, great job, I'm excited.
I would recommend not paying attention to the people saying nothing has changed, they say the same thing every update just to shit on the game and the devs. If it's been a couple years since you last tried it, I honestly would say to give it a try now and see for yourself what there is, especially since you can do so for free, and then if there's not as much as you were expecting you can just delete the game and wait until the release late next year or check back before then.
 
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goblinraider

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Idk bro they've been following their roadmap pretty well since releasing it, have you even looked at it?


They also released the arena combat thing this dev build that they're getting feedback on.
If we hit December this year and the gameplay isn't mostly complete I'll concede your point, but they have an actual posted schedule they've been following.

Cutscenes is one big area where they could showcase their skill,
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character artists (I think you mean 3D artists) also would have job to do while working on story bits (models/props, creatures, visual effects).
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He also wrote that he hopes despite the disappointing (to him) updates that are 80% animations/sandbox related (at least in terms of the points) there is actually more work being done behind the scenes but it can't be all rolled out immediately and instead relies on other things being added/fixed for it to be possible, but your changelogs don't mention it - all it takes to make each update to include additional info about what given addition will eventually lead to (some are obvious, like pathfinding, AI improvments), addmitedly this changelog does have a bit more of that unrelated stuff, but it's all very vague, let's just look at recent changelog.
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simply get more people to work on the bugs, engine, game mechanics and story.
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matt12234

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Is this what you mean?
from our changelog this version:
• Sandbox editor: Added face pose override options to sex scenes
Amazing, I am using an older version and didn't see there was an update!

I will make sure to download and give it a go, thank you so much.
 

P0iSON

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Explain how to change characters in a sex scene? Before I just changed Maya to another character using poses, but now it doesn't change characters - Maya is always the main one. Or am I missing something?
 
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Its been a hot minute since I've checked in on this game, saw some of the more recent posts but was curious, just how much of the game is actually now there? I remember messing around with a sandbox run around and fuck whoever/whatever you wanted the last time I played a couple or so years ago now, but I haven't checked in now in a long time. Could also be I'm misremembering, as I think this is also the game where you could play as some native/tribal woman in an area and do a couple or so quests before the content basically ended.
 

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Idk bro they've been following their roadmap pretty well since releasing it, have you even looked at it?


They also released the arena combat thing this dev build that they're getting feedback on.
If we hit December this year and the gameplay isn't mostly complete I'll concede your point, but they have an actual posted schedule they've been following.



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Excellent reply.
 

Taithrah

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Every 6 months or so I check back on this game.
Would like to say I'm impressed, but I am not. Seem focus is almost exclusively on males, furries and sandbox.
The animation chart shows its heavily skewed and leans heavily into male x female content. And less male x male or female x female content. I hope your referring to female x female. If not, this is another insane post added to a very insane thread.
 

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Yet another post that essentially boils down to "if you don't like it, don't say anything". Granted, this one is phrased a bit more politely, I'll give you that. But here's the problem: giving money for the mere chance of influencing development is absurd for so many reasons that it's hardly worth breaking down here. On the other hand, voicing criticism in a public forum, especially one with a dedicated thread for this game, is far more effective. Not only does it ensure that your concerns are heard, it also keeps others informed about the reality of the situation.

And let's be clear: I've been "checking back in a year", as suggested, for several years now. The result? The game hasn't just failed to progress, it has regressed. For a project that's supposedly been "in development" for nearly a decade, with continuous financial backing, that is inexcusable. People absolutely deserve to know what they're getting into before deciding whether to support this.

The developer has been collecting funds through Patreon since at least April 2016, under the promise of building an open-world adult rpg. Almost a decade of funding later, what do we have in terms of actual gameplay? Nothing. People need to understand this. Staying silent in the face of what is essentially a scam(where is the promised game?) is no better than endorsing it. If you want to remain quiet, that's your choice. But I won't. Not when countless supporters are still holding out hope for a project that has failed to deliver for nearly ten years.
I mean yeah man. Do these supporters not have wills of their own? If they don't like the direction of it, they shouldn't donate. They should stop doing that. That might make things change. If they DON'T stop. They are co-signing the direction it's going in. That's what that means.

I'm not donating. I'm not suggesting anyone donate either. But I also recognize that that means my voice has limited importance.

Every single fucking thread on this platform you tune in and see the same fucking shit. "This update is not everything I ever asked for". All of them. I think that, MAYBE, developing things just takes more than people think it does. It's like this for most game development. No one is ever happy with the pace. Maybe people just aren't happy with how fucking long creating shit takes, huh?

10 years seems about right for a game this stupidly ambitious without a massive studio and team. Lets look up the budget of some similar games. It's honestly hard to think of any AAA ones with similar gameplay, because most big studios don't fall into this trap. Steam thinks this game is apparently similar to Mass Effect and God of War(2018), which is laughable. It's not a big grand narrative RPG. Maybe it's similar to andromeda in that it wants to be an openish world RPG? That's what andromeda is, right? Anyway $80-100m and $200m were the budgets. I could see Legend of Zelda BoW or ToK being more vaguely similar. Open world. Souls-ish combat. Additional mechanics overlaid onto that. (in our case it's porn) You talk to people. Estimated $120m and $100-$150ish is what I'm seeing. All made by massive, professional teams too.

Maybe it's more similar to something like Enshrouded? It's at least... a small studio. They both have 'explore, fight, survive' type marketing. Both are attempting to be pale imitations of souls combat. They're both perhaps-too ambitious open world games. Enshrouded is more survival, crafting, base building tho. Also more annoying to figure it's budgets out... I'm not putting much more than a few googles of effort in here... I keep seeing the number $10 million as initial budget, However. Did this game raise $10 mil? I don't think so. Kickstater says 100k was raised (which was like, half of what the goal seems to have been btw. Idk if they raised it), and patreon has... 10k members. I assume the number has been dropping? The lowest donation is 1 dollar. I don't think they're at $10 mil.

Maybe you should be more realistic about the things you get invested in. Like, I saw 'open world, unreal engine' and I ALREADY knew to not really raise those expectations years ago. Frankly. I'm surprised it hasn't been abandoned, or acted more shady. It's also a porn game that is posted freely here. And on steam too, even, it's not even funding itself via sales! Enshrouded is selling. It's selling 4 million copies. It's selling physical merch. As it too is also still in development, I'm sure that money goes into funding that, at least in part. So factor that into budget comparisons.

So my ultimate point is... the output really isn't that ridiculous for what's going on.

... Look man. I understand WANTING this game to be more. But it chose to be more ambitious than it should have been. Despite this, unlike many games that are far too ambitious, it's still being worked on and shows it's work. It isn't doing much obfuscation. It also delivers on the most important aspect of an E-game. The E part. It's good. I'm not suggesting anyone give them money. I'm not giving them money. I'm just suggesting we all bitch less. There are far better examples of scams in this space.

I just... don't give a fuck about hearing it. I like what I'm getting each update. I don't think it's a 'scam', and it's annoying to see people whine about it like it is each time it updates. What do you think you or anyone else is accomplishing here? You're just being a bummer. If I were making this shit I'd either not pay attention to any of you, or I'd hate having to update it at all, because I know it's gonna be a bummer each time. So good luck changing it by whining about it on the pirating site where it's posted freely.

It's not exactly a big faceless mainstream corporation we're dealing with here. It's an e-game. This isn't super serious shit. At literally any moment any nations law could wipe it's viability as a product away ENTIRELY. Don't get seriously invested in it, monetarily, or emotionally. This isn't fucking star citizen. ($800 million it's raked in btw)

You can read the change logs. They're making with the porn and chipping away at the game. Consistently. That's about what you can expect. Especially if you aren't giving them any money yourself.
 
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