Others Abandoned Winter Warmth [2024-12-24 TEST] [PowerPlower]

[WuzzyFuzzy]

I see this sentence more and more in the comments to ntr games as of late.

There's logic to why that is...or should be anyway. It depends on a few factors such as the player/reader's personality, how the story is written, how the MC's mind works, how his significant other's mind works, etc. In some cases I find a male MC to be ok and things are out of his control. But that's rare on this site. Most are written to be somewhat clueless or participants in the process. But a sign of good writing is how evocative the characters are written to be. In WW this guy has had a lot happen to him which naturally results in a loss of esteem. But it's his dishonesty to himself and Melissa that makes it hard to like him. He's all show and no substance. At least on the dark side. I haven't played the new light side yet (will start that now), but in the previous iterations of the game I would say he was written to soft to be alpha. We can make choices to make him take the alpha road, but the dialog really didn't match very well.

 

[WuzzyFuzzy]

Where the hell did i get the chessboard??????? Anybody know?

In the previous releases it was at the book store.

 

[WuzzyFuzzy]

I started baking cookies, no money at first, now i think i got 100

It was confusing as I didn't get to make cookies until Chap 1 was long over. Evelyn moved in after the MC was fired which ended chapter 1, but I was still having scenes with Mina at the office and the cafe. They have lot of continuity errors in this build that needs to be fixed.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

In WW this guy has had a lot happen to him which naturally results in a loss of esteem. But it's his dishonesty to himself and Melissa that makes it hard to like him. He's all show and no substance. At least on the dark side. I haven't played the new light side yet (will start that now), but in the previous iterations of the game I would say he was written to soft to be alpha. We can make choices to make him take the alpha road, but the dialog really didn't match very well.

I'm surprised he maintains such this mopey persona....and this writing is hardly unique in this regard. Do people actually enjoy this style on the dark path?

What I mean is - I'd expect him to lean into it more instead of having these narrations of "i lose again, such is life "

It's the same way I feel when incest games do nonstop narration on "she's my [rel.mother]! I couldn't possibly do that with her!"

Obviously, the player clicking those options is very much onboard with whatever the context is.

It was confusing as I didn't get to make cookies until Chap 1 was long over. Evelyn moved in after the MC was fired which ended chapter 1, but I was still having scenes with Mina at the office and the cafe. They have lot of continuity errors in this build that needs to be fixed.

Yah to a player like you or I who were very familiar with the mechanics of the old version, much came as a surprise now..... you stay at work much longer, the cookie shop isn't fully made (no upgrades? i need my rolling pin dammit!), different pathing on grinding pav in park for gym access, ramen-cart-girl is a random encounter when walking between house and park, etcetc.

One mechanical design critique I'd have is while I like his attempt at all these new rpg-ish elements like the garden and cooking, right now energy really isn't as limiting a factor enough to make all these mechanics impactful. In the current state, it'd make more gameplay sense if there was something like a constant energy drain over time from not eating, and you had to go grocery shopping to get more food (which would cost money), or alternative, you could grow and cook your own meals. As it is now, if you're low on energy you just sleep for 2 hours and it's all but reset.

 

[DarknessDai]

can someone tell me what new dark side scenes with the wife ? i played little before the game crushed for me when MC found item on street , couldn't press anything after that ! , anyway the MC's friend sent msgs talking about his wife tits , could this mean there could be NTRS/sharing path ?

 

[stiltoboglovian412]

One mechanical design critique I'd have is while I like his attempt at all these new rpg-ish elements like the garden and cooking, right now energy really isn't as limiting a factor enough to make all these mechanics impactful. In the current state, it'd make more gameplay sense if there was something like a constant energy drain over time from not eating, and you had to go grocery shopping to get more food (which would cost money), or alternative, you could grow and cook your own meals. As it is now, if you're low on energy you just sleep for 2 hours and it's all but reset.

Don't give them fuckin ideas, damn, the game is already a painful slog, we don't need to be constantly eating and drinking too. He needs to think of different buffs for those items, or make them gifts or something.

 

[Halfnakedalien]

Don't give them fuckin ideas, damn, the game is already a painful slog, we don't need to be constantly eating and drinking too. He needs to think of different buffs for those items, or make them gifts or something.

I genuinely think the game is designed in a way where the creator wants people to pay for higher level patreon levels for convenience. E.g fast travel, money code for the laptop and I'm guessing that isn't the last of what they have planned. Imagine how much less of a slog the game would be without the shit travel system and the early 2000s HTML style cookie and ramen games lmao. Oh and the skip actually skipping without lagging or going barly that fast.

 

[stiltoboglovian412]

I genuinely think the game is designed in a way where the creator wants people to pay for higher level patreon levels for convenience. E.g fast travel, money code for the laptop and I'm guessing that isn't the last of what they have planned. Imagine how much less of a slog the game would be without the shit travel system and the early 2000s HTML style cookie and ramen games lmao. Oh and the skip actually skipping without lagging or going barly that fast.

Definitely, which is crazy considering the game isn't even a stable state. Prioritising monetization over having an actual playable game is insanity.

 

[ART2024]

In the previous releases it was at the book store.

You mean library, checked there. And where is it now???

 

[WuzzyFuzzy]

You mean library, checked there. And where is it now???

Yes, library. When you click on the grocery cart you will see two small windows open. The one on the left is the mall and the one on the right is the library.

 

[WuzzyFuzzy]

I'm surprised he maintains such this mopey persona....and this writing is hardly unique in this regard. Do people actually enjoy this style on the dark path?

What I mean is - I'd expect him to lean into it more instead of having these narrations of "i lose again, such is life "

It's the same way I feel when incest games do nonstop narration on "she's my [rel.mother]! I couldn't possibly do that with her!"

Obviously, the player clicking those options is very much onboard with whatever the context is.

To a degree, that's my point. That type of personality generates disgust in me. Disgust generates lack of empathy and/or sympathy and I become the MC's antagonist, pulling the puppet strings in such a way to exacerbate his failures. Most creators write in such a way as to be only formulaic and tropish. This story is better written and has more depth, but the end result is similar. Failure is failure.

Even in the Light Side path he's a bit of a dish rag. That's ok for a while, but he's going to have to steel himself (in my opinion) to effectively handle more than one relationship AND fend off other suitors. In both sides, the foundation to the story is Melissa. It all hinges on her and she needs to be crafted in a way that has depth and nuance. This entire production is really about her, not the MC. He goes where she goes.

Yah to a player like you or I who were very familiar with the mechanics of the old version, much came as a surprise now..... you stay at work much longer, the cookie shop isn't fully made (no upgrades? i need my rolling pin dammit!), different pathing on grinding pav in park for gym access, ramen-cart-girl is a random encounter when walking between house and park, etcetc.

Rolling pin! All games should have a rolling pin. Well...that and a BFG.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Even in the Light Side path he's a bit of a dish rag. That's ok for a while, but he's going to have to steel himself (in my opinion) to effectively handle more than one relationship AND fend off other suitors. In both sides, the foundation to the story is Melissa. It all hinges on her and she needs to be crafted in a way that has depth and nuance. This entire production is really about her, not the MC. He goes where she goes.

I still need to play the full light path - that's surprising to hear as I'd expect it to turn into more of a mini-harem simulator (which for better or worse it'd be well-equipped for). I.E. you chase down pavani while wooing nora, mina, etc all with Melissa's blessing.

Unclear how he'll handle the daughters in a realistic sense in the light path, dark path already has hints on where it'll go there what with Ava's male suitor etc.

Rolling pin! All games should have a rolling pin. Well...that and a BFG.

tangentially, no one will ever convince me the original duke 3d didn't have the best weapon selection in history- a shrink gun, a freeze ray, missile machine gun, FISTS, etcetc

 

[ART2024]

Yes, library. When you click on the grocery cart you will see two small windows open. The one on the left is the mall and the one on the right is the library.

like i wrote, checked there, nothing...

 

[ART2024]

You gotta do her sunday events a LOT, repeatedly, specifically the first.

Acually in

I didn't even see Nora's and I ran through both light and dark play throughs haha how do you get hers?

Actually in my case, i let her train 5 or 6 times waiting for maybe NTR scene with Andy - nothing. Next 2 sundays i said NO and now im fighting Andy in Tekken

 

[ART2024]

It was confusing as I didn't get to make cookies until Chap 1 was long over. Evelyn moved in after the MC was fired which ended chapter 1, but I was still having scenes with Mina at the office and the cafe. They have lot of continuity errors in this build that needs to be fixed.

Yeah, same here. But suddenly i found out that picking only plain cookies make money I was an idiot picking all Only plain ones, 1000 with no sweat

 

[Halfnakedalien]

How much content is still to be added in the upcoming update whenever that is

 

[WuzzyFuzzy]

tangentially, no one will ever convince me the original duke 3d didn't have the best weapon selection in history- a shrink gun, a freeze ray, missile machine gun, FISTS, etcetc

Hail to the King, baby!

like i wrote, checked there, nothing...

That's where it should be, but evidently left out of this release.

Actually in my case, i let her train 5 or 6 times waiting for maybe NTR scene with Andy - nothing. Next 2 sundays i said NO and now im fighting Andy in Tekken

I was confused, now I am discombobulated! I've played the DS, I've played the LS and I get squat with Nora. The only thing I was able to see was a message while playing the LS that Nora wanted to go further (or something) with me which was triggered at +8 destiny points, but now weeks later, nada. In the DS I had lots of disruptor points and low power score and never got an Andy scene. Again, I got an enigmatic message that she was depending on him or something. Otherwise, no matter how much I hang or don't hang with her that's it.

How much content is still to be added in the upcoming update whenever that is

Unknowable at this point. Lots of positives about this test build--lots of negatives, also.

As an aside, anyone else not getting F95 notices about replies and updates? There's nothing in my notifications from today's posts.

 

[ART2024]

I have -3 powerscore... Did you have dinner with Nora, going to her saturday evening i think, there will be a kiss with her but i couldnt tounge her couse of my low powerscore.

 

[WuzzyFuzzy]

I have -3 powerscore... Did you have dinner with Nora, going to her saturday evening i think, there will be a kiss with her but i couldnt tounge her couse of my low powerscore.

No, once I received the message that she wanted to go further, she stopped appearing anywhere but her place. If I go there we only play games. I've been there 20 or thirty times and nothing. I also can't open The last three events with Melissa on Sunday. On the dark side I could play them all, but on the light it won't let me open the "karate uniform" even though I've met the prerequisites. Maybe it's because the Nora quest is broken.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

No, once I received the message that she wanted to go further, she stopped appearing anywhere but her place. If I go there we only play games. I've been there 20 or thirty times and nothing. I also can't open The last three events with Melissa on Sunday. On the dark side I could play them all, but on the light it won't let me open the "karate uniform" even though I've met the prerequisites. Maybe it's because the Nora quest is broken.

To be clear, Nora hasnt taken her shirt off for you yet?