Thank you all for always being present and continuing to support us despite the passage of time.
I won't quote every message I intend to reply to. Instead, I'll simply say this.
This game has always been intended to be a paid product.
However, after the initial release, many people requested that I refrain from making a paid version. To accommodate everyone's preferences, I made the decision to continue with both options: a paid version to finance the game's development and free versions that include all the main routes (and even some secondary ones) available to all of us.
It's understandable to desire a free game, particularly when you're on this site.
But please remember that this game is created with all my heart for each and every one of you ♥♥
Thank you all for always being present and continuing to support us despite the passage of time.
I won't quote every message I intend to reply to. Instead, I'll simply say this.
This game has always been intended to be a paid product.
However, after the initial release, many people requested that I refrain from making a paid version. To accommodate everyone's preferences, I made the decision to continue with both options: a paid version to finance the game's development and free versions that include all the main routes (and even some secondary ones) available to all of us.
It's understandable to desire a free game, particularly when you're on this site.
But please remember that this game is created with all my heart for each and every one of you ♥♥
Except you've put 2 levels without the patreon version, furthermore since its in full display how much you get each month from patreon alone, at least drop the Patreon version down a tier.
Having early access as part of your patreon is perfectly fine, but locking scenes behind a paywall on an unreleased product is a scam. Once you release the game fully then asking a price for a one-time purchase is more than fine, but since you're now even using AI generated art I find it hard to justify paying a dime.
I can assure you that you're losing more patreons than you're gaining by doing it like this.
EDIT: I take it back, the fact that several of the latest CGs are AI and even sex scenes is just beyond unapologetic, if I want stuff THIS generic I can find it anywhere and it truly ruins the story. Shame, you had such a good art-style at first.
Eugh, AI art in a product made for cash, this hurts to see- and you even seemed to be willing to pay for character art and VAs- would you outsource those to AI as well if you could? :/
If the entirety of the game was made to the decent standards set by the first few routes, I might have been tempted to support the development of this game because I did like it and I'm not going to go so low to suggest a creator doesn't deserve to be paid for their time developing a game. The turn to AI has killed that desire entirely. The AI art is a shortcut meant to save money. If you are charging a monthly fee for people to play a 'premium' version of your game, at least put that money into paying artists or putting some actual fucking effort into the art.
This has set a horrible precedent. If AI art is to become the new normal for this game, there is absolutely no point in giving money for it's development. Art is one of the most expensive parts of anything because it's time consuming and takes dedication and focus. That element has been removed entirely by the switch to AI art. Dev cut one of the major costs involved in making a VN, so that begs the question: Where is the money once put into the art now going?
This project has lost all of my faith. The dev is cutting corners to save time and money, despite the fact that he's asking for money for this product. If you are asking for money to develop a game, you need to show how you give a fuck about the game and have passion for it. The game had passion once. It's gone now, and so am I.
Guys can you help me remember another game? You were collecting a harem there cause you got some like card saying that you are top class fertilizator or smth and you were going around a city talking to girls (each had many interactions) and it had similar looking interface
Here I was seeing the older art and was considering chucking a few bucks to back the dev (dropped a couple patrons for going inactive/awol) then read the thread.
Thanks for everyone in the thread for letting people know.
Paywalling routes on an already paid for early access game is already shit. Just make it $5 for the full and drop the 3 or make the 3 the second most recent update. But AI art to boot. Anyone paying for games made with AI is a sucker. No one has a problem backing text based games. At least they try.
Asking for the same pricepoint as those who actually put the full effort and cost into making their games and using AI to cut costs is repulsive. Leave it to some of us who hang on a piracy site to call a dev out, but at least some of us actually "buy after try" and arent scamming people around here and don't pretend we arent scooping stuff for free.
This dev scamming people who are actually paying. May as well make a monster girl/breeder game if you want to rip people off.
I have to admit, reading the recent reviews made me feel bummed.
While I don't create this game solely for positive reviews, it's usually a pleasure to read them. However, receiving a lot of criticism, especially when I find it unfounded, can be quite discouraging.
I'm not the best when it comes to communication. But there's something important I want to share that hasn't been mentioned before, and I think it could really make a difference in how you see things.
To clarify, out of the 155 backgrounds and illustrations in the game, ONLY 2 backgrounds and 5 illustrations were created using AI. I want to assure you that I have no plans to continue using AI for future updates, and we haven't utilized it for several months now. It was a time when AI was popular, and I wanted to experiment with it, but it no longer interests me for many reasons.
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Anyway! I'm thrilled to announce that version 0.80 of Wishes is now available! We've put a lot of effort into developing some new animations, and what's even better is that they are real animations. I'm pretty proud of them.
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Please remember that creating and maintaining this game incurs costs, despite any contrary beliefs. Voice-acting and all the other creative aspects require significant time and involve the efforts of over ten people. That's why I continue to rely on the support of some of you. Your support means the world to me! ~
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I'm not the best when it comes to communication. But there's something important I want to share that hasn't been mentioned before, and I think it could really make a difference in how you see things.
To clarify, out of the 155 backgrounds and illustrations in the game, ONLY 2 backgrounds and 5 illustrations were created using AI. I want to assure you that I have no plans to continue using AI for future updates, and we haven't utilized it for several months now. It was a time when AI was popular, and I wanted to experiment with it, but it no longer interests me for many reasons.
Please remember that creating and maintaining this game incurs costs, despite any contrary beliefs. Voice-acting and all the other creative aspects require significant time and involve the efforts of over ten people. That's why I continue to rely on the support of some of you. Your support means the world to me! ~
Thanks for being direct in the criticism levied on the thread. It makes me feel less critical in general and better about possibly backing the game, however I maintain this critique:
"Paywalling routes on an already paid for early access game is already shit. Just make it $5 for the full and drop the 3 or make the 3 the second most recent update."
If the "Patreon version" is literally the same aside for voice acting or is actually additional content tucked away, please clarify as such.
Its not a matter of hostility, far too many projects look good (as your game does) but then either as a countermeasure to increase the threshold (in terms of cost) for piracy have a higher entry cost, but then as a result others who sincerely don't have the cash to hurl around on porn games simply don't bother backing at all.
EDIT: To clarify the big load of me bitching is if the alluded to "Patreon version" being listed at 20/month that the 10/month tier only gets every three months. Clarification on what the "Patreon version" is would be good.
Thanks for being direct in the criticism levied on the thread. It makes me feel less critical in general and better about possibly backing the game, however I maintain this critique:
"Paywalling routes on an already paid for early access game is already shit. Just make it $5 for the full and drop the 3 or make the 3 the second most recent update."
If the "Patreon version" is literally the same aside for voice acting or is actually additional content tucked away, please clarify as such.
Its not a matter of hostility, far too many projects look good (as your game does) but then either as a countermeasure to increase the threshold (in terms of cost) for piracy have a higher entry cost, but then as a result others who sincerely don't have the cash to hurl around on porn games simply don't bother backing at all.
EDIT: To clarify the big load of me bitching is if the alluded to "Patreon version" being listed at 20/month that the 10/month tier only gets every three months. Clarification on what the "Patreon version" is would be good.
Thank you for showing interest in supporting us. I won't try to convince you, but I'll respond honestly to your remarks.
As a creator, I have a bit of trouble seeing things from a player's perspective. I believe that those who support me are incredibly generous, and I consider myself lucky to have such amazing followers. When I introduced the "Premium" scene the very first time, I had a couple of things in mind.
Firstly, I lacked self-confidence and didn't think anyone would support my game if I only offered Early Access. I was afraid that players would quickly move on without giving it much attention. I knew I needed some financial support, but I never imagined I could actually receive it. After reading your comment, I realize I might have been wrong about that.
Secondly, I wanted to provide a genuine reward to those who chose to support me. I didn't want them to only have Early Access (although there's nothing wrong with that). I wanted to offer them something unique and different from what other creators provide.
Initially, I also considered releasing a version of the game for sale on certain platforms. I've recently reconsidered this option due to personal reasons that I prefer to keep to myself.
But now that the "Paywall" system is in place, I can't see myself changing it and potentially disappointing those who have supported me from the beginning.
Now let me address your other questions:
- as of now, (v0.80), The Premium version includes three additional short endings, each containing an H-scene.
- I release a free version of the game every month, and once every three months, there's a new Premium scene.
When I look and see the monthly return (under 1k/month) I can strongly assert your monetization scheme is poor if it contains VA work and the overwhelming majority of the art is of creative effort.
- To be honest, we have around 2k per month (the displayed numbers aren't exact since they don't account for those who cancel their support shortly after). Additionally, we're also doing well in terms of sales on other platforms. After covering taxes, we have just enough funds to create one release per month. If we encounter difficulties in financing the voice-acting, we might need an extra month. I value voice-acting immensely, and I enjoy working with the voice actors. That's so much fun.
- I must admit, I somewhat agree with that sentiment. It's true that there are often voice actors who seem to appear in multiple projects.
That is why I actually collaborate with at least two dubbers who have less than 100 subscribers on their social networks. I pay them the same amount as the others, even though I'm not obliged to do so. Supporting them is important to me.
If I have to pay 10/month to only get the "full version of a game every three months, or 20/month for a yet to be finished game, I will respectfully say, you have priced out a lot of people.
- Finally, about the "out"pricing concern: I completely understand where you're coming from. That's why the game is also available for sale at $10, and you can download our updates for free afterward, including the Premium version.
Supporting us monthly is more like embarking on a journey together, with many more rewards along the way and being part of our community. However, purchasing the game outright is also a great option.
Alternatively, you can download it for free and leave a nice comment, which also helps us (both in terms of visibility and self-esteem, I find that I work even harder during weeks when I receive positive and encouraging comments. They have a significant impact on my motivation and drive to give my best!)
I hope I've addressed all your questions!
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by the way here's a gift I wanted to give you guys.
She's named "Holly" , our new character in progress.
