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This dev is amazing. He keeps saying all these things about NTS and MC's that I agree with. I know we are in for a sexy ride.
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Thank you, you just made me anxious with all those expectations
Jokes aside, thank you, I'll do my best to meet them even if I know it's impossible to please everyone
Hey y'all, I just posted on Patreon some small info about the Chapter 1 release date + an unexpected situation (not a bad one, but it does concern my health)
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Good luck with everything friend.
Thank you all so much for your patience and support! This project wouldn't exist without you, and I can't wait to keep building the story with you all.
I truly hope you all enjoy Chapter 1 as much as I enjoyed creating it!
Now, I'll wait for you guys to give feedback and report any bugs, after that, I'll start working on Chapter 2.
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for more information too So, this game isn't for me, but I just want to give the Dev props for calling the game "With Consent", tagging it as swinging instead of Netorare, and not trying to shoehorn in a fake NTR route to bait the crowd who enjoys that in.
WAY too many devs these days are making NTS games while claiming/pretending its NTR, so I genuinely appreciate and respect one who is straightforward about what it is.
I wish you the best of luck, and hope this finds the crowd that likes it, dev.
WAY too many devs these days are making NTS games while claiming/pretending its NTR, so I genuinely appreciate and respect one who is straightforward about what it is.
I wish you the best of luck, and hope this finds the crowd that likes it, dev.
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Thank you, yeah, I noticed that. The current tags on the post were actually added by a moderator. When the tag NTS or something similar is added to the site, I’ll use it.
Yes, I provided a changelog for v1.0.0 as well, just in case. If you have any questions, I'll be available to answer them if I can.
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Honestly, I think a lot of that has to do with the limitations of the F95 site itself. Certain tags that are more concise, better defined, and much more widely used and accepted on other sites have been planned and in development limbo on F95 for years. (There is a massive discussion thread about just planned tags that aren't yet/ever implemented.) And in cases like this game, it also doesn't help that Sam, the
This, of course, injects unnecessary confusion and discourse, but sharply increases user interaction, to continually and endlessly ask the same questions into threads about whether a project has NTR or NTS and to what degree, and the inevitable off-shoot conversations about what those tags mean. On-site moderators, for the most part, do try their best to tag projects correctly with input from devs and other players to help mitigate some of the confusion despite the limitations. Typically, the dev themselves need to either clearly state what a project is about in either its description, additional information, or as an FAQ which a mod can then incorporate into an OP.
But yeah, I agree, and good job to Jay_W for clearly stating one of the central themes that drives their game (being NTS) which helps to target certain audiences and not waste other players' time that are more interested in experiencing a more NTR-focused game or that are simply not interested in NTS. And there's nothing wrong with that, of course. People like what they like and developers making it clear what their project -- be it a webcomic or a game or whatever -- is all about is appreciated.
Edit: Typo fixed (discussion); crossed out "site owner" and added "SysAdmin"; plus this followup comment from Sam, noted here, "What I am against is adding any new tags until we have a system that allows the community to help us reclassify content."
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Didn't know that about the site owner, that seems like an odd hill to die on, but ok. Still, it would be great for people to use swinging for NTS since it's much closer to that than NTR.
But also, the tag thing was only a very minor part of what I was talking about. There are so many NTS devs that seem to intentionally bait NTR fans in, which is the main thing I was getting at. I mean by claiming it's NTR in the title of the game, and saying that's what it will be in the description. That's not on the site, that's the dev's choice. I can't tell you how many games like that I've started, only for the plot to take a hard turn into NTS that ruins everything. (For me, I mean)
Then there's also the NTR/NTS route games. Which, to be fair, I feel like there used to be a few games that were able to pull that off. But more and more I see games where the NTS route gets all the content and all the focus and the NTR "route" is basically the same with a few lines taken out so that it doesn't even make any sense when played that way, and definitely isn't in any way satisfying.
I do just genuinely appreciate a dev who is up front about what the game will actually be, no BS, no bait. So good on this dev.
As an NTS enjoyer I can tell you, the last thing NTS fans want is getting more NTR fans in. In many cases they try to push the dev into adding more hard NTR stuff. And, since the NTR crowd is bigger, they can end up taking over the thread. Now, I'm sure there are devs who do that to attract more supporters. But NTS devs who really appreciate the kink also know NTR fans can get toxic.
And do not forget those VN's that are exactly the other way around. They are supposed to be NTS, but along the way the dev switches to NTR, taking NTS lovers by surprise. Sometimes that happens under pressure of the named crowd, but not that seldom NTR was planned from the very start and people where lured in with false promises. There are a number of VN's on this site that have VN tiles that contain NTS and nothing else, but are nothing more than hard NTR at the end. A same really, because the art on some of these titles looks good. Anyway - It is this kind of things that makes NTS lovers very, very, very weary, and often derails a game threat. That could (in many cases) been avoided if a clear tagging system was available (although not in all the cases, like I described above).
Right on. In the end, we've gotten to a state where many NTS fans are afraid of any possibility of NTR in their game, NTR fans complain about seeing pure NTS games, vanilla gamers complaining about even the slightest whiff of anything NTR related... and the mods don't like us discussing shit like this. I've gotten many posts erased discussing whether something counts as NTS, NTR, etc. I guess someone doesn't like being reminded about how the tag system is less than adequate, like you said.
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It was a nice update. It's starting to set things up nicely. Thank you for the update, dev.
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