Would you make a porn game if you could ?

[Winterfire]

I tried in order to give an accurate answer to this poll...

Turns out i couldn't, alexa pls play sad song

 

[Carrera]

I'm trying to do so right now.

I already write furry commissions, mostly (But not entirely) porn for a living. Been living off of this since march and dipping my toes in game creation to try both to create something new than just a written story and teach myself some new skills at the same time. A steady revenue stream so that I could continue doing stuff like this than I enjoy rather than being forced into slave labor at Mcdonalds till Covid kills me again like i used too.

So covid has killed you before? Wait what?

 

[Loganfin]

Given that this thread has gotten a lot more action lately, it made me think again that I wish that there was a program out there that allowed a person with low skills to make a "paint by numbers" basic VN. One where you could take stock faces and bodies (maybe a couple dozen faces and 5-10 bodies) and mix them together, and then mix them scene by scene with standard poses and add dialogue to create a story. If I could do something like that, I'd love to put stuff together and share it for free.

 

[khumak]

Given that this thread has gotten a lot more action lately, it made me think again that I wish that there was a program out there that allowed a person with low skills to make a "paint by numbers" basic VN. One where you could take stock faces and bodies (maybe a couple dozen faces and 5-10 bodies) and mix them together, and then mix them scene by scene with standard poses and add dialogue to create a story. If I could do something like that, I'd love to put stuff together and share it for free.

Pretty sure there are game engines out there that will allow you to plug in pictures and dialog to make a game with zero coding, but you're stuck with whatever built in functions they have set up. The ones I've seen promoted look kind of like you're looking at a visio diagram or a flow chart and you just drop in a picture and some dialog and it moves on to the next scene.

You can't set up a complicated event like you could if you were doing the code yourself. For something like a simple, linear VN with a basic UI it would work though.

 

[Loganfin]

Pretty sure there are game engines out there that will allow you to plug in pictures and dialog to make a game with zero coding, but you're stuck with whatever built in functions they have set up. The ones I've seen promoted look kind of like you're looking at a visio diagram or a flow chart and you just drop in a picture and some dialog and it moves on to the next scene.

You can't set up a complicated event like you could if you were doing the code yourself. For something like a simple, linear VN with a basic UI it would work though.

Makes sense.

 

[Dragonien]

Makes sense.

I mean you can always use Twine

If you're only wanting to do super basic stuff like a branching story path its extremely easy to use. and you can learn more about it and get increasingly complex with it. it all really just depends on how much you want to learn and you can go all the way up to creating games like Corruption of Champions out of it.

I've been slowly learning it to make some games of my own and at least for basics like variable manipulation (get key, door unlocks when you have key, etc) its actually super easy. and theres guides EVERYWHERE. if you really wanna try making something yourself it could be a good place to start!

 

[Loganfin]

I mean you can always use Twine

If you're only wanting to do super basic stuff like a branching story path its extremely easy to use. and you can learn more about it and get increasingly complex with it. it all really just depends on how much you want to learn and you can go all the way up to creating games like Corruption of Champions out of it.

I've been slowly learning it to make some games of my own and at least for basics like variable manipulation (get key, door unlocks when you have key, etc) its actually super easy. and theres guides EVERYWHERE. if you really wanna try making something yourself it could be a good place to start!

Thank you for that. I hadn't actually heard of that one. I'll check it out.

 

[riverrungames]

I'd love to make a game, especially a porn game, for the enjoyment of myself and other people. Nothing in my professional life has prepared me for it since I specialize in non-fiction writing (newspapers, magazines, journals), so game development is an enthusiast's hobby for me. I love writing fiction and erotic stories and making games on my own time. I adore playing and reading through adult games, learning about them, and decoding their style; essentially reverse engineering games in my mind, seeing what works and what doesn't (the dreaded schizoanalysis). The fact great porn devs and erotica artists started off in the dark like the rest of us, guided only by their intuition, and doing their best to release a game without a play-by-play manual to lead them there is admirable. Even if they suck at it at first, the artist's consistency and discipline gets them to achieve a level where they can communicate their thoughts, and materialize their ideas onto the screen. Game development is painful a lot of the time, and not easy, so there has to be a reason why the person continues to persist in spite of the burnout, the deadlines, the loneliness, negative audience feedback, juggling around money and financial considerations, and all those tricky contingencies associated in this field.

Rilke wrote a beautiful passage about writing in his Letters to a Young Poet:

"Go into yourself. Find out the reason that commands you to write; see whether it has spread its roots into the very depths of your heart; confess to yourself whether you would have to die if you were forbidden to write. [emphasis added]

This most of all: ask yourself in the most silent hour of your night: must I write? Dig into yourself for a deep answer. And if this answer rings out in assent, if you meet this solemn question with a strong, simple “I must,” then build your life in accordance with this necessity; your whole life, even into its humblest and most indifferent hour, must become a sign and witness to this impulse. Then come close to Nature. Then, as if no one had ever tried before, try to say what you see and feel and love and lose..."

You might say Rilke was exaggerating here, but we all need a passion in our lives outside of work and sex and talking to our friends. We seek an artistic pursuit that we find pleasurable, an aesthetic activity which satisfies a part in your brain that can only be stimulated by the act of creation. Freud wrote two things make people happy, work and love. The preferred love for many is playing an instrument, or programming, or drawing a shapely butt. For me, the most immensely satisfying moment is when I finally figure out how to end a scene after pondering on it like a Benedictine monk for several weeks. So yes, I'd love to create a game, and I have nothing but the highest esteem for those who manage to travel down that gilded path, even if people look down and sneer at them because they're only "porn devs". Who gives a shit if they are, if porn games brings pleasure and joy to the artist, and to the people who enjoy it, then that's what matters.

 

[agriasoaks]

The answer to the question if I would make a porn game if I could the answer is , totally 100% yes.

I would totally make a porn game if I could but I would do it as a hobby not as a real life job or where there are commitment and have deadline where you taken someone else's money then you being had to put on a tight stresfull relationship with your customer to fix , upgrade the game till it is satisfactory to the consumer which is varried with tastes and varied with the computer hardware , drivers etc and so on that would totally kill the joy of creating of a porn game.

The main hindrance from me from making such a game is that :

- The scripts needed so that the game that I envisioned would be able to perform as I would imagine it to be then balancing it all with what's the most general computer system , hardware , drivers to make the game to be able playable to the majority general crowd.

- English language isn't my true first native born language (mother tongue) so I probably failed miserable in the grammar.

- The arts the pictures the assets, this is also major factor in creating such a porn game.

Original comissioned arts going to cost you an arm and a leg especially if you are thinking of making it as 'commercial' but then again if you don't go 'commercial' then you are not able to finance your effort to get the said arts or pay scripters for your game that you envisioned thus you're stuck in the devil's circle and would just cause you to be not enjoying it so thus your creative juice would not flow and the game will be not on par of what the general community wishes it to be.

My best bet in making the arts is just sadly just use the hentai game that allow to create 3D scenes , 3D characters and use that but that would be plagiarism and not respecting the original creator of the said game and what totally scare me is the potential law suit cause from just having fun making a hobby come true.

So my arsenal in terms of assets are second life, 3D hentai game constructor such as real play , playhome and the likes, game making program , rpgmaker mv, rpgmaker vx ace, rpgmaker vx , rpgmaker xp

I do have purchase an arts that was made to be used in game from dl site long time ago I haven't use it yet.. it's only character stand up pictures no fully hentai arts for it.. so yeah I guess I need to combine with text and character standing pose arts ? don't know how much people are into that.. most probably doesn't like it so meh.

- I have a thin skin against critism , Yes I am fully aware that critism is critical for someone to improve for the benefits of the person to grow and become a better person. But at time as I read critism that are directed at other developer and creator that to me it's pretty harsh and vicioius outright malicious. So yeah one of the thing that holding me back is that.. Suck to have spend time, spend money perhaps for the arts, making it into a game, uploading it for hours.. and only to meet with angry vicious critisms. Constructive critism is all right but yeah please put some courtesy on it or minus angry emotions behind it.

- Uploading the said game to an uploading site, I have no idea which uploading site that provide 'free' good 'service' that doesn't like to delete links.. it would be most troublesome if someone just delete the link that you spent hours to upload your game in a snap of a finger if someone just reported it due to the fact it had 'adult' content on it.

- So many content police out there, I simply wish to create a grim dark adult fantasy world where there are violence, slavery, rape , gore again just seem to have no place for such a person to upload the said game and to be appreciated for the fine arts of the grim darkness. With the current situation on how the world is so many censor this censor that sue this sue that.. just makes me think that it's not worth it to go all the trouble for it.

Anyway thanks for making a thread with such a thing, good for me to vent.. that's my answer.. Cheers !

 

[SPlayer]

Nah, i like to enjoy porn games but make them? it's too much for my insecure
although i don't mind doing some work for porn games if i'm not an author of game

 

[lemonfreak]

The primary barrier for me is not the coding (which I'm sure I could learn) or even the images (which I believe I could manage using HS) but the writing; I wouldn't want to release anything until I had locked the story so that I could say, with absolute certainty, that none of the players' ideas would make it into the game; and that would be made clear in the dev notes.

 

[WIRProductions]

I already write my own erotica series, and did some commission work for storylines on porno games before, but I would only 'make' the game if I had a dedicated team that could do all the tasks I can't/would be bored doing like coding and artwork. Directing it, sure. Writing the story. Definitely. Coding and all that isn't my cup of tea, nor am I interested in learning it.

 

[DogzBallz]

I am currently making one, it's a hell of a lot of work, though admittedly my Godlike levels of ADHD probably contribute a fair amount to workload.

I don't have a problem telling people about it, I just don't share all of the details with everyone. I plan on doing this full time, with digital asset creation as a side gig.

 

[Deleted member 4671389]

It does help in this day and age where we actually have options of fully free and open-source software to use for creating games. For Game engines there's

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and Ren'py for example. Programs I used that were also FOSS:

Gimp - Photo and image manipulation
Krita - Drawing/Art sofware
LMMS - Music Creation Software aka DAW
Audacity -Audio manipulation software
Inkscape - Vector image software

I did make 2 games so far mostly from Linux with the exception of using Koikatsu Sunshine because my PC was not put together for more demanding software such as that. Even though You could use WINE to run windows software off of Linux.

As for censorship when dealing with adult games, you just got to a have a spine not to support or enable it. Use alternatives that allow you to be free from censorship. For example why use twitter to promote your game when you can use Mastodon as a alternative or

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as opposed to Discord

If you do become a game dev, remember that you were a gamer too and just like you wouldn't like Triple AAA companies like EA and Activision lying and screwing you over on games, that you would not do the same to your fans.

 

[Deleted member 3041728]

Yes, I would like to make a career out of it. But I live in America and I don't have any writing skills or programming skills. I recently downloaded Daz3d but I don't make a decent income to able to buy assets. The only thing I'm good at is creating ideas. During the pandemic I had so many ideas flowing in my head that I started to have seizures.

 

[Crimson Delight Games]

So my question is, if you had the skills, would you consider making a porn game ?

I would, but I'm only a writer, so I doubt I could ever make a game on my own...

Thankfully I'm part of a great team, and we've known each other for years before starting work on our game.

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I see so many of you in this thread regretting the fact that you have only 1/3 of the skillset needed to make a game (either art, or writing, or coding), and I can sympathize because I'd be in your shoes if it weren't for the fact that I lucked out with a couple of amazing friends who share my hobbies. So my advice to everyone wanting to make a game but not knowing enough to actually get started: team up with other people! This thread is a great reminder that many of you want to make a game, but are finding it difficult to start because you're not sure how to leverage your limited abilities into a tangible project. So reach out to others who have skills that complement yours, and you'll find it much easier to make progress!

Hell, there's even a whole sub-forum here on F95 dedicated to just that!

If you can only do programming, then try to find an erotica writer, and together you can build an HTML/text game. Or if you're a writer, link up with someone who knows DAZ, and the two of you can easily figure out how to set up a simple visual novel in RenPy. But what if you have no skills whatsoever? Then learn DAZ/Blender! Artists probably have it the easiest since they're the most in-demand, but I've seen even art-oriented folks struggle to start simply because they're terrified of things like game design and programming... and who can blame them? It's difficult getting good at just a single aspect of game dev, let alone branching into multiple ones!

Granted, there are people who work as solo devs and make great games, like Droid Productions or Doorknob22 (check out their games if you haven't), but most of you reading this thread will start making progress by teaming up with people who are in a similar situation. And even if the joint project goes nowhere, you'll probably still have learned something that you can use for your next game!

The most difficult part of any project is starting it. The next hardest thing is keeping the momentum going, due to how much of a grind gamedev is even at the best of times. But all of that comes much easier when you have other people helping you out and using their skills to complement yours, even if it's just one other person! And your collective work will end up being more than the sum of its parts... so get out there and start developing!

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

I would make one and release it for free, and I have an idea for a premise that afaik hasn't been done before. I'm sure I could learn to do it on RPGM, but I don't just want to make an asset-flip. I'd want to make my own pixel-art. Easier said than done for someone that hasn't drawn a thing since early childhood.

 

[Doorknob22]

In my opinion, the only irreplaceable a solo developer needs is decent writing quality. The amount of programming needed to create a simple AVN in Ren'py is tiny. As for graphics, you can either go for porn girl photos (god knows the web is filled with those) or go 3d. Creating a passable 3d art is easy, just avoid common pitfalls as I specify here and if the prices are too high, swallow your pride and start with early, Genesis 2 models which aren't as nice as gen 8 but are very cheap.

Most important advice is start small. Start with a tiny project you can start and finish and if you manage to do that, start a slightly bigger one.

 

[Jofur]

I have a few ideas that keep percolating in my head. Particularly a few text based games made in Unity.
I've already played around a bit making various text generators or parsers and what not and it's rather fun. That and if my brief stint making SFM porn is anything to go by, posing characters is hard and surprisingly time consuming. I do know Blender enough to make simple 3D levels and stuff, but not nearly enough to make good looking high-poly characters and animations.

I'd rather use Unity instead of Twine because it's my bread and butter, and it has a solid UI system for making menus which is more or less what text based games are. Buttons and text basically. I also think it could be interesting to use it's more advanced rendering features to make some fancy and animated UI. It's the main thing you are interacting with after all, might as well make it feel satisfying to click things.

But at the moment I'm making regular non-porn games that takes up most of my creative brain-power.

 

[Tornn]

I think more than making a porn game, I would like to to do a game and then add porn to it to make to game more popular