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For ppl having random website be DNS blocked by their ISP.
You can change the DNS in your network settings (on Windows at least, search a tutorial on Google) and replace it with Cloudflare 0.0.0.0 or Google (8.8.8.8 if I remember).
 

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For ppl having random website be DNS blocked by their ISP.
You can change the DNS in your network settings (on Windows at least, search a tutorial on Google) and replace it with Cloudflare 0.0.0.0 or Google (8.8.8.8 if I remember).
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Please find attached a fix for the "history" menu. It was a side-effect of a global substitution at some points.
 

themagiman

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I remember getting the girls sex addicted in this so they would masturbate during the exam and not pass is that in the game?

Is there a mod or interest in a mod to get hypnosis or pregnancy into the game?
 

djustmie

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playing this game now for some days , and i must say , i like it (didnt expect that because when i see real pornin the tags than usually skip , but i like management so thats why i started)

but although i think i am not doing bad (Did not let any girl (8) pass the exam , but i still have 1 main question (the rest i will figure out)

how to corrupt the mothers?

otherwise the votes on weekends will never pass

thnx for reading and any help is welcome
 

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I remember getting the girls sex addicted in this so they would masturbate during the exam and not pass is that in the game?
You're thinking of this one, that was the basis and major source of inspiration for the current ongoing game.
 

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First things first - how are you getting that sensitive areas and other bits of info to appear?
I've been playing with none of these and though i managed even without such tooltips, would really like to have them on display too.
Debug Mode gives you those numbers. You can access it via the gear icon menu on the bedroom screen.
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After clicking the above, click the bigger gear that appears in the center of the screen. That is the actual change options menu, and not the icons below it.


Much as i tried to say before about rule-breaking, careful with the info it can mislead your priorities. Sensitive areas can give a bonus with Arousal but it doesn't mean other areas can't be better, depending of degree of undress, a schoolgirl's propensity to stress and so on. Plus, if you already caused her to bolt a number of times there's some chance her Fear stat is through the roof, what might be compounding the stress.
I literally showed you her fear stat.
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I don't think this is the problem.

Test her a little - touch a body part, see the pressure level, roll back, touch another body part, repeat. Through this you can get the hang of which moves will cause more arousal for less pressure (though i'm guessing it will be "Reach around and grope her pussy", as it usually is).
I literally went over this in my earlier post and showed the test results. I can do NOTHING but "pass time" and she flees after three rounds.
This is likely related to the "underdressed causes pressure" problem Ninoss alluded to, which leads to...

And as i said previously, deactivate those rules in the next PTA meeting (you can reactivate them later on with no need for votes since they already passed), at your current stage with the schoolgirls they make things harder instead of easier. Ninoss itself pointed out, low Naturism girls will gain more Pressure at every turn simply by virtue of being forced to go by without them against their will. Yes, the girls will occasionally come without some pieces of clothing for no logical reason (dog ripped her skirt in the street? shirt covered in mud by a passing car? was late for exam and all her panties were on laundry? mean girls at play? who knows...), it's a thing that happens and doesn't mean they are more open to funny business, on the contrary, they could be embarrassed and her Pressure will passively skip faster.
Here was the Monday after I deactivated the cloth rules.
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No change in their behavior.
The girl on the left is slightly corrupted, and always wears two things, either pants/panties or bra/panties.
Girl on the right is fully corrupted. No issues there.

There is clearly something other than the cloth rules and naturism stat determining what they wear at work here.



However, you were actually correct on one thing you mentioned earlier.
The debug-only stat that shows her sensitive area does appear to be misleading.

During the first round of the day, the following actions had these results:
(Using 4x stat multiplier from options menu)

Give her a hint
1.0 affection
0.2 corruption

Reassure her
0.8
0.1

Kiss her
0.9
1.1

Use her mouth
-2.9
4.8

Cum on her face
-4.7
6.6

Grope boobs
1.5
2.4

Slap boobs
0.0
1.9

Pinch nipples
0.7
3.4

Grope ass
0.6
1.3

Slap ass
-0.6
1.3

Spank ass
-1.9
1.7

Grope pussy
1.7
2.0

Tease clit
1.5
3.6

Wedgie
-2.7
2.7

Feel legs
1.0
1.1


Ass was the worst stat to initially interact with despite the debug menu stating it was her sensitive area.
Tease Clit had the highest stat growth in both categories.
You can do it twice before she flees, unlike the individually higher actions involving her mouth, where she flees instantly. So the overall gain is greater via Tease Clit.


Ninoss, what does sensitive area mean for gameplay? Anything, or just hidden flavor text?


However, the stat growth within the day is still not translating to large changes in her stat bars after the day is over.
Here is the position of the bar at the start of the day, and then after boosting it the most possible in a single session
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Comparing where the bar goes on the 2nd "r", I am not even sure if there was any actual growth.
And this was with 4x "express late game" stat increase multiplier.

This seems unreasonable and unintended as the means to grow the stats.

Mind you, before the latest patch, I wouldn't have cared about this.
Eventually they would be forced to come in naked due to the rules, and I could fuck them while not caring if they were having fun or not.

But with some mother interactions gated behind the corruption and affection of the daughters, this is now a bit of a problem. Yeah, I could just use the console or the max girls stats button, but that's not the way the game was supposed to be played as I understand it.
 

themagiman

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Is there a way to make the girls not graduate other than doing the usual?

Are there mods that add things like sex addiction, pregnancy, and hypnosis to the game? Or just other elements?
 
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Sonico

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Debug Mode gives you those numbers. You can access it via the gear icon menu on the bedroom screen.
View attachment 2747661
After clicking the above, click the bigger gear that appears in the center of the screen. That is the actual change options menu, and not the icons below it.
I went there and was confused when what popped up was the difficulties - the detail missing for me was that you have to go through a bunch of other settings in order until the Debug Mode option appears. Thanks.


I literally showed you her fear stat.
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I don't think this is the problem.
My bad, so the main issue is very she's an "early game girl": Low corruption & naturism, very low HP total and reacts strongly to any and all actions.


I literally went over this in my earlier post and showed the test results. I can do NOTHING but "pass time" and she flees after three rounds.
This is likely related to the "underdressed causes pressure" problem Ninoss alluded to, which leads to...
Indeed. The girls tend to get panicky more easily if they are in a state of undress unusual to their "preferences".


Here was the Monday after I deactivated the cloth rules.
View attachment 2746325
No change in their behavior.
The girl on the left is slightly corrupted, and always wears two things, either pants/panties or bra/panties.
Girl on the right is fully corrupted. No issues there.

There is clearly something other than the cloth rules and naturism stat determining what they wear at work here.
Kind of unsurprised there - it's far from uncommon for one or more girls to "miss the changes" when the week begins, possibly Nana Bongard's issue here.


During the first round of the day, the following actions had these results:
(Using 4x stat multiplier from options menu)
Oh boy, you know that messing with that kind of setting without knowing for sure its effects on Gameplay can be good or end up into being a trap, no? Honestly no idea for good and for ill since i never touched that, so much of what i'll say should be half guessing and gut feeling.


Give her a hint
1.0 affection
0.2 corruption

Reassure her
0.8
0.1

Kiss her
0.9
1.1

Use her mouth
-2.9
4.8

Cum on her face
-4.7
6.6

Grope boobs
1.5
2.4

Slap boobs
0.0
1.9

Pinch nipples
0.7
3.4

Grope ass
0.6
1.3

Slap ass
-0.6
1.3

Spank ass
-1.9
1.7

Grope pussy
1.7
2.0

Tease clit
1.5
3.6

Wedgie
-2.7
2.7

Feel legs
1.0
1.1


Ass was the worst stat to initially interact with despite the debug menu stating it was her sensitive area.
Tease Clit had the highest stat growth in both categories.
You can do it twice before she flees, unlike the individually higher actions involving her mouth, where she flees instantly. So the overall gain is greater via Tease Clit.
Main problem i see here is that Debug mode shows so much stuff that a player can mislead itself into focusing in certain things over other equally, if not more important to the stage they are. You just listed the Corruption and Affection levels for every move - but what about the Pressure levels, that has been your first and foremost hurdle so far?

With the problem girl you should definitely concentrate on finding what moves spikes the Pressure the less - what possibly relates to Fear their values hopefully, the Fear stat has kind of zigzagges between playing straight or contrarian with meaning between versions, so... trust the Pressure & Arousal bars over numbers, always.


Ninoss, what does sensitive area mean for gameplay? Anything, or just hidden flavor text?
Sensitive area means that a girl's Arousal gain will be higher than other girls that are not sensitive in that place, maybe lower Stress too, though not really sure on that. All of that said, "10+1" is better than "10", but no match for "15" or "20" - if it will really be advantageous to focus in a sensitive area over an "average hot spot" will depend on the specific girl's combination Stats & Traits at the moment.


However, the stat growth within the day is still not translating to large changes in her stat bars after the day is over.
Here is the position of the bar at the start of the day, and then after boosting it the most possible in a single session
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Comparing where the bar goes on the 2nd "r", I am not even sure if there was any actual growth.
And this was with 4x "express late game" stat increase multiplier.

This seems unreasonable and unintended as the means to grow the stats.
The repeated running away before orgasm is definitely at work there, the enormous difference that causing a girl to come and if it is a minor or huge mind-blowing one can make upon a girl's corruption progress can't be stressed enough.

Seriously, even if it is a turn by turn slow grind of just groping her pussy - yeah, teasing arouses more but also pressures a girl so much that it's not (usually) worth it until a certain degree of corruption is reached, same for stripping if her Naturism is low - is worth it if the Arousal bar peaks blows up first.

There are a bunch of other little things and random details or surprises that can crop up (like the number of questions solved can increase a girl's overall resilience to touching/stripping/everything, for example), but for now let's see how concentrating on the basics of Arousal & Pressure works or not for you.
 
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Sonico

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Is there a way to make the girls not graduate other than doing the usual?

Are there mods that add things like sex addiction, pregnancy, and hypnosis to the game? Or just other elements?
No such features so far but who knows what the future might bring (sex addiction in particular that figured to some degree in some versions of the source game has been requested by several players).
 
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I think the culpit is line 262 of game\scripts\storyEvents\lb_evening_visit.rpy, I jump back to home without nullifying 'fakeExam'. Will implement the fix for next ver.
I'm not trying to pretend I'm half as good at Ren'py/Python as you Ninoss, but I reckon if I was implementing a 'fake' exam system I'd start by copying the existing exam system to a bunch of 'fake...' (or 'girlHome...') labels then altering it to suit. That way I wouldn't have to try to keep track of 'fakeExam' and '"fakeExam" in globals()' all over the place and I'd have more flexibility for adding features to the home/fake exam system later (e.g. a mother walking in on you).

I can imagine the current implementation introducing more maintenance problems as WTM_Academy develops.
 

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Really love the mom's update. What if sufficiently corrupted mothers could participate in the home tutoring session as the second "student"?
Or you could invite any willing students for a group study at your place?
 

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I like this game, but I feel a bit frustrated with the sponsors, there have been times (from when I started playing to this update) where the sponsors asked me to send them photos of the girls, and I have yet to get the photo club option, would it be possible to make the sponsor photo request available after you unlock the photo club?
 

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i also have an idea for making the wardrobe mechanic a little more interesting:
- trying to steal a striped clothing article should be an option you get once the article has been striped, instead of being a plain option that always roles. That way we could actively try to get rid of clothing items that we don't want them to wear.
- adding an option to buy clothes from a shop and then gifting them to one of the girls, effectively adding something to their wardrobe. that way we could add clothing that we want them to wear without directly forcing it via the rules. it would also give as more to do with our money.

thats all from me for now, thanks for putting so much work into this. i love it.
The problem that I have with this idea as much as I like it, is the fact that the dev is using real porn content, meaning there'll be a limit on how much outfit content the dev can use, same thing may apply with sex toys and locations
 

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I'm not trying to pretend I'm half as good at Ren'py/Python as you Ninoss, but I reckon if I was implementing a 'fake' exam system I'd start by copying the existing exam system to a bunch of 'fake...' (or 'girlHome...') labels then altering it to suit. That way I wouldn't have to try to keep track of 'fakeExam' and '"fakeExam" in globals()' all over the place and I'd have more flexibility for adding features to the home/fake exam system later (e.g. a mother walking in on you).
I can imagine the current implementation introducing more maintenance problems as WTM_Academy develops.
Tbh, (admitting I didn't misunderstood), what your suggesting is a maintenance problem.
As a general rule you never want to duplicate code, so copy-pasting entire labels and altering minor parts to suit particular needs is really what you don't want to do.
Having the usual main exam system but running in the 'fakeExam' mode seems way more clean to me. Wherever I want to exam I just can re-use that same code :unsure:

Really love the mom's update. What if sufficiently corrupted mothers could participate in the home tutoring session as the second "student"?
Or you could invite any willing students for a group study at your place?
For now moms are not configured to work during exams (they don't have the necessary images for that), but that's an idea I already add and that will be used in future update (probably 0.3). SO yeah you might see girls that are not students being dragged into taking part to exams :cool:

I like this game, but I feel a bit frustrated with the sponsors, there have been times (from when I started playing to this update) where the sponsors asked me to send them photos of the girls, and I have yet to get the photo club option, would it be possible to make the sponsor photo request available after you unlock the photo club?
There is already a system for that, if the PhotoClub is not there and a photo request is generated, it rerolls it once to reduce the overall 'photo' request. I don't know if entirely disabling it is a good idea as it's the main purpose of sponsor and not being able to fullfill one the the request push the player into doing stuff to get the PhotoClub asap.
 
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The problem that I have with this idea as much as I like it, is the fact that the dev is using real porn content, meaning there'll be a limit on how much outfit content the dev can use, same thing may apply with sex toys and locations
Some things are already planned in the clothing update to improve that Freesocer but as Revo accuratly pointed, using real porn dramaticaly reduces to possibilities there :confused:
(and on many other things too)
 
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Tbh, (admitting I didn't misunderstood), what your suggesting is a maintenance problem.
As a general rule you never want to duplicate code, so copy-pasting entire labels and altering minor parts to suit particular needs is really what you don't want to do.
Having the usual main exam system but running in the 'fakeExam' mode seems way more clean to me. Wherever I want to exam I just can re-use that same code
True.
But a more general rule is that you don't want to create spaghetti code with conditional jumps in and out all over the place.
The more your 'fake' and 'real' exams diverge the more spaghettified it becomes and the more of a maintenance/update nightmare. You're already on the road from 'reuse' to 'rewrite'. Have you counted how many times you have to check the 'fakeExam' status from within the exam code?

Elegance is nice, but maintainability is better. Otherwise you eventually get bogged down in patch over patch over patch ... and it becomes increasingly time-consuming to upgrade.

You can trust me on this. I spent 20 years as a contractor troubleshooting other peoples' code. And by the time you go away for a few months then come back it's "someone else's" code.
 
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