thundersan86

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Hello there! What is the correct way to raise the corruption level of students' mothers? I think this is how we can move forward in the story. Or am I mistaken?
 

Xorgroth

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What is up with anal in this game? It's like the girls accept it then the next day they all hate it? Or if you don't see them for a few days then auto hate it again? Trying to raise it again is a bit annoying if they're just going to hate it again.

Edit: Managed to answer my own question. It's based on fear and nothing else, would be nice if there's a secondary trait this feeds into, since once you get quite a few girls the fear stat degrades a bit to quickly, it becomes a back and forth game. Guess I could mod it myself and tie in corruption to it but might be worth looking at for the devs.
 
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jamm_91

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Hello there! What is the correct way to raise the corruption level of students' mothers? I think this is how we can move forward in the story. Or am I mistaken?
You can raise it through a couple methods
But i think the main 2 are
- Breaking that free use rule and having them call you, there should be a good choice some of the time, its really fucking random but debug in the settings - the funny cog in the top left corner in the bedroom - tells you if its good or not.

-another way is the punishment system. When you have rules in place - like that uniform one - people who break it get a rule break added to their character - you can check in the mother menu - punishing the mom and/or the student gives some corruption to the mom and student. The ultra efficient way i found is getting more than 6 rule breaks (First you can "forgive" them when confronting the mother about it, but the game doesnt actually take the rule breaks off, grinds affection really fast) then punishing the mother and fucking her. Fills about a third of the bar instantly

another way in the current verison of 0.292 is the go to settings and max out moms
 

mangasm

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is there a way to assign mother's to girls with their own vids? or is that coming in future updates?
 

themagiman

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gdiggers link isn't working anymore in the mods google doc

also I'm going to start working on the hypno mod again and going to focus on getting brainwashed characters to corrupt non-brainwashed characters. Wish me luck.
 

BolHeX

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I am working on implementing some generic events that can apply for any girl.
Currently it supports events: Pre-exam, During exam, Post exam and at home.

If you have any ideas for events let me know.

Currently i have implemented the below events, as a proof of concept more than a final design.
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Gdiggers

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gdiggers link isn't working anymore in the mods google doc

also I'm going to start working on the hypno mod again and going to focus on getting brainwashed characters to corrupt non-brainwashed characters. Wish me luck.
That's GoFile just deleting files after a certain amount of time. I'll delete the link for now.

The Pixeldrain link seems to be working for me, though?
 

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I’ve been thinking about which gameplay I would want. Ultimately I am falling around a corruption system based on emotions with the following scheme : , the website is a bit of a mess, just click on the "Timeline" tab > "Learn More" (at bottom left) as its core. The game loop should be around 3 to 5 attempts or so of successive triggered event according to the usual parameter triggering constraints. (1-2 attempts in easy, 2-3 normal, 3-5 hard). Unsure if it should be splitted in two (pre-round and post-round). The two main stats would be disgust or something related to it and arousal as described here .

Maybe this is too complex/long to code and I’ve been trying to simplify the things with the current game stats. I am very unsure if over-simplified, it would still be pleasurable/enjoyable. The more you read/understand psychology, the more nickpicking you get about porn games.

The current WTM game is based around stats and traits and the mapping to those 2 processes are not so simple...

Such system is similar to the text based game "corrupted saviors".

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Tbh I'm not quite satisfied with the stat system, it's quite inconsistant but has too many stats (which should not be happening)
"Corruption" progression is quite difficult to manage but I think it's quite too fast in the current version :unsure:

A similar game that do it quite well is Brothel King and if I remember it's based on a Hate/Love and Fear/Trust system along side traits.
(It also has a bunch of additional stats here and there but that are not for player's interactions so I guess it doesn't count for our subject)

I don't quite lnow how to make that work in WTM, if you have any idea ^^
 

Kodex

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You could try a tri-pronged approach:
- Intelligence speeds up the girl subject solving, increases every turn (to prevent cheesing)
- Corruption slows it down, increases with your actions, with hardcore actions rewarding more corruption (to encourage spending time with the girl)
- A love/fear mechanic that rewards action on the opposite end, to convince the player to alternate/experiment with stuff
Every action could have a corruption threshold, forcing it would make the girl leave, but also trigger negative consequences with the mother/PTA, so the progression should be natural. There could also be a "temporary" corruption stat, if you tease a girl enough first, you might "convince" her to like your harder advances.
Just my 2 cents.
 

Ninoss

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You could try a tri-pronged approach:
- Intelligence speeds up the girl subject solving, increases every turn (to prevent cheesing)
- Corruption slows it down, increases with your actions, with hardcore actions rewarding more corruption (to encourage spending time with the girl)
- A love/fear mechanic that rewards action on the opposite end, to convince the player to alternate/experiment with stuff
Every action could have a corruption threshold, forcing it would make the girl leave, but also trigger negative consequences with the mother/PTA, so the progression should be natural. There could also be a "temporary" corruption stat, if you tease a girl enough first, you might "convince" her to like your harder advances.
Just my 2 cents.
That's kind of actually how the current game works :unsure:
 

Kodex

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My idea was to trim some of the extra stats, that tend to lose value in the long term either way. My personal "favorite" is naturism, which makes the school rules useless, since the girls end up coming naked to exams.
You could convert it into an "acceptance to lose clothes", again depending on your previous actions/corruption. With only 3 stats (love and fear being 2 opposite of the same variable, +/-), you could control the entire encounter, either with random rolls to add some factor of uncertainty or with skill checks/thresholds.
 

Xorgroth

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I'm actually fine with most of the stats in the game. I just think the math is a bit all over at the moment. Like for the mothers when you first contact them is displays their corruption level. Then when you visit it adds a random value to their corruption level. So it can actually make it higher or lower depending on the random value. Which kind of throws me off, think the current system just needs more permanent values I guess. Spend all that time making them go up and they degrade pretty fast.
 

example890

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Unsure of what you are doing, you are just copy/pasting the content of a file, not the file itself and the rest of the content.
Was expecting something like the stuff attached.

English is not my native language. Please forgive me. I would like to know the source of this mod? I don’t see this in the mod category on the homepage. Is the file dead? If you have a backup, I wonder if you can throw it up?
Sorry for taking up your precious time.
 

Gdiggers

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English is not my native language. Please forgive me. I would like to know the source of this mod? I don’t see this in the mod category on the homepage. Is the file dead? If you have a backup, I wonder if you can throw it up?
Sorry for taking up your precious time.
There's a pixeldrain link for my mod (one for the girls and one for the extra actions) in the google sheets link on the 1st page of the thread. The GoFile link died because GoFile deletes files after a certain period of time.

The instructions on how to use them can be found multiple times throughout this thread (I included install instructions every time I updated the modpack.)
 
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sls8181

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Tbh I'm not quite satisfied with the stat system, it's quite inconsistant but has too many stats (which should not be happening)
"Corruption" progression is quite difficult to manage but I think it's quite too fast in the current version :unsure:

A similar game that do it quite well is Brothel King and if I remember it's based on a Hate/Love and Fear/Trust system along side traits.
(It also has a bunch of additional stats here and there but that are not for player's interactions so I guess it doesn't count for our subject)

I don't quite lnow how to make that work in WTM, if you have any idea ^^
Hi, I’ve been busy and I just saw your post. What I would like to know is if a game is more or less coherent with actual scientific research it would still be enjoyable. For the moment, I have the idea of a mod called "H.E.A.T" as in "High Emotion Arousal Training". I can digress on an on but I am still on the rough ideas stages. My last one is:
  • For an act to be "enjoyable", it should pass 2 thresholds
  • The first is on "confort"/"affection"/"propinquity".
  • The second is on "arousal" which is closely linked to the stress level (or "pressure")
  • Basing hehavior on 3 hormones (testosterone, dopamine and oxytocine) as described
  • Defining a spectra, from unhealty to healhty
  • healthy people would be more dopamine driven, seeking for new things and after having tried all positions would search to optimize accord to her taste. A taste is determined at the first experience of a position and related to her emotional state and/or just a saved randomized stat.
  • unhealthy people would search for security, regular patterns. It is closely linked to wealth, poor people having to assume all the bad consequences of their decision. This should be encoded in the "confort"/"affection"/"propinquity" stat.
  • one of the difficulty is how much infos or hints you should give the player.
The story line behind "H.E.A.T" is something like:
  • You are a PE teacher of a volleyball girl team on a famous university who will trains individuals for the preselection to the next Olympic Games
  • Your budget is plummeting so you will have to innovate
  • The next Olympic Games is in summer and Heat Waves are scheduled.
  • To anticipate Heat strokes or heat fatigue, you must follow the core temperatures
  • You don’t have budget to get the expensive telemetric pills
  • But scientific papers points that anal temperature is the only inexpensive reliable core temperature
  • There is a failed product on the market, an anal plug monitoring your temp which discharges a little bit of electricity when forcing a sync/pair
  • The headmaster had successfully convince the girl and their parent for full monitoring with such plugs.
  • Due to some discomfort/unease, leading to bad performances, you must fix this by training them to like this monitoring sensations. This is done by whatever seems necessary to win aka get to the national team for the next Olympic Games
Photoshoots are a by-product for becoming future stars and to avoid any additional polemic during the actual olympics you ask them to create an OnlyFans account and they ask you if they can use the photoclub for this.

During the game, at some stage an event occurs
  • Global warming is really too much
  • As food, especially meat, is the main leverage for this, organisers decides to give unfair advantages to all full vegans.
  • The main issue to the vegan diet is the lack of B12.
  • In order to keep the medals to the rich countries, they ban the most available B12 in the market : usual pills and special drugs
  • You have done you research and there is ultimately another source of B12 which cannot be banned : SPERM !
  • This would justify all the "blowjob" content
Will think more about the game mechanics, but this is harder than expected. Have a nice weekend.

BTW, if you like the ui in my ui-mod, it’s okay to just integrate/modify it in a future WTM release, I have no plan to maintain it, its just for the community.
 
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sls8181

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English is not my native language. Please forgive me. I would like to know the source of this mod? I don’t see this in the mod category on the homepage. Is the file dead? If you have a backup, I wonder if you can throw it up?
Sorry for taking up your precious time.
If it is about the ui mod, this is attached to the following post
https://f95zone.to/threads/wtm-academy-v0-292-ninoss.120004/post-11580011

If this is about the debug of the additional girl, it was solved here
https://f95zone.to/threads/wtm-academy-v0-292-ninoss.120004/post-11567572

Have a nice weekend
 

example890

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There's a pixeldrain link for my mod (one for the girls and one for the extra actions) in the google sheets link on the 1st page of the thread. The GoFile link died because GoFile deletes files after a certain period of time.

The instructions on how to use them can be found multiple times throughout this thread (I included install instructions every time I updated the modpack.)

Thank you. Fortunately, it was still alive when I downloaded it.
I almost thought it was a dead mod resource. It scared me to death.
Thank you for your dedication. It’s touching.
 

example890

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If it is about the ui mod, this is attached to the following post
https://f95zone.to/threads/wtm-academy-v0-292-ninoss.120004/post-11580011

If this is about the debug of the additional girl, it was solved here
https://f95zone.to/threads/wtm-academy-v0-292-ninoss.120004/post-11567572

Have a nice weekend

Your UI interface is simple and powerful
It's refreshing. Thank you for your efforts.
Let everyone have a different feeling when playing
I also wish you a happy weekend
 

Xorgroth

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Well, I went full grammar Nazi on my install. It was a chore to say the least, and also if the person doing the Jordan packs is still around they might want to go through all of their packs again. There was a bunch of characters still with jpg or png images despite being named webp in their config files. Can't remember which ones off the top of my head had uncut videos in their event folder. Cece Capella and Piper Perri are reversed in their girl configs, lastly I re-encoded all the videos and shaved off 4GB.
This is my ffmpeg command, I think Handbrake does CQ also, might have to translate it over to that and windows as well. It had a very negligible quality loss at -crf 30, or -crf 28 was also pretty good.
Bash:
ffmpeg -i test.webm -c:v libvpx-vp9 -b:v 0 -crf 30 -pass 1 -an -f /dev/null && \
ffmpeg -i test.webm -c:v libvpx-vp9 -b:v 0 -crf 30 -pass 2 -c:a libopus test-edit.webm
 
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