Jamieee

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And that is just the thing. The stories are intriguing enough for players to get emotially attached to a character, but it just doesn’t work out in the long run.

I definitely agree with this, even though she's his mom on paper, she can just give up the papers, and then have a relationship and it won't be incest by even Patreon's guidelines. I mean, he can still call her mom and I'm sure they'll even do roleplay, but it won't be incest.

There's absolutely no reason why Azel can't become an LI, and she's been built up more than anyone out of his family, so I definitely think it needs to happen, of course it should be optional though.
This kind of branching of Azels story is actually pretty easy to implement and would fit in the characters development. Especially since it her dialogues nudge you towards the idea that the MC is the man she is missing in her life, and not like a missing son kind of way.

I think that the reason so many love Cedar is that she didn't immediately fall in love with the MC. Unlike the rest of the girls, she is resistant, almost completely against him. The uniqueness of that stance, versus all the others who jump right on him, and the fact that she relinquishes her secrets very slowly allows the reader to "grow" into her. In nearly every game, and in real life, I tend to go for that And that is just the thing. The stories are intriguing enough for players to get emotially attached to a character, but it just doesn’t work out in the long run.
Wouldn’t you agree that you would still be interested in her story, if she would be depicted less lewd after the whole ‘lost sister’-revelation? Her lewd appearance before the revelation can be explained, because of her dominant behaviour towards her classmates. But after the revelation, it could easily be changed without breaking the character development, right?
 
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I am really curious what BD’s initial intentions were with Azel and Willow. I get that he had a change of heart during the development, but it still looks like he is still not able to steer it into the right direction.
 

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I am really curious what BD’s initial intentions were with Azel and Willow. I get that he had a change of heart during the development, but it still looks like he is still not able to steer it into the right direction.
As far as I know since Azel is somewhat based on his family member that passed away there will be no intention with her other then loving adoptive mom and he been stated that nothing will happen with willow
 
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As far as I know since Azel is somewhat based on his family member that passed away there will be no intention with her other then loving adoptive mom and he been stated that nothing will happen with willow
That’s what I understood as well, but that just makes is extra twisted…

I mean don’t get me wrong, the way he portrays Azel is very loving and I respect that this might’ve been his way of processing grief on a personal matter. But it shouldn’t have found its way into an adult game, where you basically get lewd with every girl you talk with. It just doesn’t fit the total image of the game. Instead he would’ve been better off by creating a non-sexual VN with characters like Azel, because people would’ve respected that more and would see it more as an hommage.

And besides, if Azel (and perhaps Willow/Wendy) are such close-to-his-heart characters, he should’ve gone easy with the clingy stuff. Otherwise it only hints that he does have these kind of feelings towards the characters, but that he does not want to state it openly.
 

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Dev Report #10 (June 10th, 2023)
Yo!


Not a ton to share this week.
There was a change in my plans and I've spent a portion of this week organizing / cleaning / purging my files.
My Daz was crashing multiple times a day and it was super annoying so I did fresh installs of everything and things have been more stable since.

The first beta of Episode 10 will be out soon. Possibly tomorrow but most likely Monday.
I've decided to go ahead and work on the second beta alongside the first so I can build up a buffer to hopefully achieve the consistency that I'm currently lacking in release times. So most of the second beta is already finished and I'll be keeping about an update's worth of a buffer on hand. So this second beta will be released as I finish the 3rd beta... if that makes sense.
I'm happy with the amount of work I've put out in these past few months but I'm not happy with the inconsistent release times and I think making and maintaining this buffer will be huge in improving that consistency as if anything were to slow me down for any reason, I could eat into the buffer and then build it back up.

Due to these changes, this first beta will have sped up tier release timings since the first beta is taking longer to finish than originally planned.
I'll likely cut it in half and do 12 hour tier releases instead of 24.
Though, this will be the last update with sped up tier releases.

There will also be a lot of side content posted soon, Birthday renders will be posted shortly after the first beta and the client poll will be on Tuesday. Character sheets for June and July will be posted sometime this week and I'm still not completely certain how I'll handle the ditlo but I'll have an answer for that in the next dev report.

That's all for me for this week. I apologize for the change in plans as I originally intended to build the buffer over time but things were getting a little too stressful so I decided to go ahead and get it out of the way now.
As always, thank you all so much for everything and please take care.
Spread some love and have a wonderful week everyone!
 

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That’s what I understood as well, but that just makes is extra twisted…

I mean don’t get me wrong, the way he portrays Azel is very loving and I respect that this might’ve been his way of processing grief on a personal matter. But it shouldn’t have found its way into an adult game, where you basically get lewd with every girl you talk with. It just doesn’t fit the total image of the game. Instead he would’ve been better off by creating a non-sexual VN with characters like Azel, because people would’ve respected that more and would see it more as an hommage.

And besides, if Azel (and perhaps Willow/Wendy) are such close-to-his-heart characters, he should’ve gone easy with the clingy stuff. Otherwise it only hints that he does have these kind of feelings towards the characters, but that he does not want to state it openly.
It seems like the MC was always openly loving with Azel, and from the memories we've scene, it looks like he was that way even with Cedy and Wendy before his father took him away.

It could be that by having the MC have these very openly intimate yet not sexual relationships with the women in his "family" Braindrop is trying to say that the reason that the MC is able to be such a good boyfriend to so many different girls is due to his being raised to love very openly.

If that's the case, well, I'm not sure that I completely buy it, but... whatever. There are many teen males who are so closed off they can barely do anything other than screw, much less cuddle. Maybe by making his MC an unselfish boyfriend and basketball star, BD is trying to say that you can be macho and sensitive at the same time...

Or it's just a BS fantasy story to get your rocks off to, lol
 

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Or it's just a BS fantasy story to get your rocks off to, lol
I would like to believe that this is true, but I highly doubt that this is the case. If that was his initial intention, than he wouldn't create such a wholesome relationship with these characters, while also make them physically irresistable (for some). If so, than you are basically punishing everyone, no matter on which end of the fetish spectrum you are.
 

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I would like to believe that this is true, but I highly doubt that this is the case. If that was his initial intention, than he wouldn't create such a wholesome relationship with these characters, while also make them physically irresistable (for some). If so, than you are basically punishing everyone, no matter on which end of the fetish spectrum you are.
Some people like playing with fire...
 
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i cant wait to meet this daliah person also it was cool the guy from the thorns actually apolgized and owned up to the bet he made
 

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i cant wait to meet this daliah person also it was cool the guy from the thorns actually apolgized and owned up to the bet he made
That was one of the teammates not the initial guy. They went behind his back and followed through on the bet with the acceptance of the girls.
 
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