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No jealousy means no ntr. No matter the sex organs
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It would be NTR when the goal is to steal the girl away from MC, else it is just cheating if without approval from MC and behind his back. Rules are exactly the same for females as males. If it would be NTR with a male it would be NTR with a female NPC. Now a situation where both NPC's are also in a relation with MC themselves would make it more complicated, but if the goal is to steal the other girl away it would be still (attempted) NTR in that case.
Jealousy is actually not a valid determinator, nor if you are in a sexual relation. It can even be your mother that you have no sexual feelings for as a MC, that is being stolen from you in her function as mother and that would be full blown NTR on every Japanese site that caters to that fetish. Tagging on this site is weird as fuck, since we miss some descriptions for things that are disliked almost as much and tend to get brought under the NTR umbrella.
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NTR depends on you more so than others i think.
You can't be NTR'ed if you don't care.
Atleast thats how i see it.
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Yeah and the weird thing is that Mc and player can even disagree on that, even if the MC happily voyeurs but the player is jealous since the NPC has been clearly set up as a target, as a player you can still feel jealous. Is that NTR as such though? Not in a stricter sense if that NPC has no emotional connection to MC or is not stolen away from what her part should be in the life of MC.
Within the context of this game though it looks like it will be mainly avoidable if you do not wish to see the scenes of girls together and there will be no intention of stealing girls away from MC. Now does that mean some players might not get jealous anyway (Especially if there would be lesbian content with Azel, Wendy and Willow where MC will never get action with them
) or feel if too much content is focused on the girls together instead of MC focused action the game loses its attraction to them, of course not. That is up to BD to manage though.
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It's been a long time since I've posted here...but here I am again, for now at least.
It is all set up, my friend Loco. Next thursday it will be done, and I will make sure to post my Jamie tattoo here for y'all to see. Got the approval of my wife, although there's no need for her to know Jamie's origins. All in all she can take the fact that it is an amazing art, after all.
(Please, somebody make sure that BD knows about this. I'm hopeful that it will lift his spirits, by seeing one paying homage to his amazing art) =P
Of course, you will see in due time the ss I've used for the tattoo
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- Apr 28, 2020
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If you get that tattoo and post it here I will make sure I let BD know personally.
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It's already paid for, now It's all about anxiety control 'til next thursday lol
- Sep 26, 2019
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Well hell...
I seriously thought ntr's intent was to provoke jealousy which is not present in this vn. O'well regardless I have no issue with the two playing...
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i'm quite jealous of the MC.......
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Braindrop
Already unreliable to deliver updates now put that more extra work to make girl on girl or trans dick in Jamie or other girl is just disappointing and we are keeped waiting for couch harper, Natalie and so on, so let's waste more time to change the dynamic of a game to worst.
From me it's a big resounding NO, games with all girls being BI are already too much lets add another to the list maybe isn't already enough.
Games without all girls being BI is what we lack not the other way around, but you want to be just another game like all other's so be it, you already make mad money so no worries.
GL on that but as for ME I will not keep waiting even more time to have less.
All the best.
Already unreliable to deliver updates now put that more extra work to make girl on girl or trans dick in Jamie or other girl is just disappointing and we are keeped waiting for couch harper, Natalie and so on, so let's waste more time to change the dynamic of a game to worst.
From me it's a big resounding NO, games with all girls being BI are already too much lets add another to the list maybe isn't already enough.
Games without all girls being BI is what we lack not the other way around, but you want to be just another game like all other's so be it, you already make mad money so no worries.
GL on that but as for ME I will not keep waiting even more time to have less.
All the best.
I want to start off by saying I love this game! I just finished the 9th day and I can't wait for more. However I have a question. In the beginning days I noticed that it seemed like there was a good mix between good girls, like your girlfriend, and best friend, and some naughty girls that tempted you to cheat on your girlfriend from time to time. Which I found wonderful. As, sometimes I like to play as a weaker character that gives into temptation. In the beginning it just seemed like it was temptation after temptation, and I was loving the game. Even the scene where the MC thinks he could be blackmailed by Charles if he gave into the temptation in his office was such a cool choice. And finally Willow started as a bit evil, which made your girlfriend angry, and told you to stay away from her.
Then I feel like everything just changed. All of the girls, just started to become infatuated with the main Character and just want to do everything in their will to please him. Like a love spell was placed on all of them. Why? I mean it's pretty much every female character. It just became a game about dating, and pleasing everyone. And the only evil or bad guys were men.
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed it, but it went from one of my top games, to a good game. Do people not like choices that could make the MC weaker, or be seduced rather than him seduce everyone? Isn't that the best part of choosing?
Even the impregnation angle kind of got pushed to the back. When that came up in the very beginning I was like, wow, that's creative. Because if you want to play as a normal guy, you would decline that, but if you want to play as somebody that wants to give into desire, then you go for it, knowing it benefits your mom's boss as she uses your desires to gain what she wants.
Anyway, I'm just curious what others think. I get the whole idea of having tons and tons of women just want to please you, but I'm wondering if they're are others out there that like some woman to be driven by love, and others by their own desires with might lead to seducing the MC into something wrong.
For anybody who reads this thanks for your time!
Then I feel like everything just changed. All of the girls, just started to become infatuated with the main Character and just want to do everything in their will to please him. Like a love spell was placed on all of them. Why? I mean it's pretty much every female character. It just became a game about dating, and pleasing everyone. And the only evil or bad guys were men.
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed it, but it went from one of my top games, to a good game. Do people not like choices that could make the MC weaker, or be seduced rather than him seduce everyone? Isn't that the best part of choosing?
Even the impregnation angle kind of got pushed to the back. When that came up in the very beginning I was like, wow, that's creative. Because if you want to play as a normal guy, you would decline that, but if you want to play as somebody that wants to give into desire, then you go for it, knowing it benefits your mom's boss as she uses your desires to gain what she wants.
Anyway, I'm just curious what others think. I get the whole idea of having tons and tons of women just want to please you, but I'm wondering if they're are others out there that like some woman to be driven by love, and others by their own desires with might lead to seducing the MC into something wrong.
For anybody who reads this thanks for your time!
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Im acctually pretty sure majority of the girls acctually "Seduced" MC but i guess it can be seen that MC seduced some of the girls tho that can just be MC being MC and the girls developing a crush on him.
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A story sometimes evolves when being made. Look at the stand. Comparing the unabridged to the horrible first release is apples and oranges but it is indeed the same story.
I don't honestly think this vn will be a wall to wall lesbian lip orgy like some daisy chain scene that never ends from 80s porn.
I also don't think the mc will be an afterthought at any time.
These women are beloved and seeing Jamie and Shauna together getting freaky to me sounds like some hot renders.
But everybody has their own thoughts and preferences. Some just are way better than others...
I don't honestly think this vn will be a wall to wall lesbian lip orgy like some daisy chain scene that never ends from 80s porn.
I also don't think the mc will be an afterthought at any time.
These women are beloved and seeing Jamie and Shauna together getting freaky to me sounds like some hot renders.
But everybody has their own thoughts and preferences. Some just are way better than others...
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Well unless we are able to give BD a whole computer park and hundreds of monkeys to operate them, make poses for them and make renders, every single render BD makes of an FF scene will be one less scene he can make with MC. Now if you like FF content that is fine, if you do not it means there will be less content you like for content that leaves you cold.
Now I suspect most people will not begrudge or mind too much some time put into FF scenes even if not their thing (just as most will not begrudge another Jamie scene even if they might prefer a Bailey, Natalie, Stacy or whichever girl you fancy since she is his first GF), but when it would become the main or close to that or a few updates in a row with only FF scenes, that would change. It is up to BD though what balance he wishes, but those like me that do not care for FF scenes will not become happier when they become many instead of some or a few. ;P
Not even talking yet about some flames that may appear if Azel, Wendy and Willow would have FF scenes while MC can only go
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Jealousy will be rife
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I don't know why people are so worried about lesbian content in this game. The very few scenes where there is girl on girl action are optional, and the only actual lesbian relationship in the game only happens if you tell Bailey that you're ok with her being with Rainn
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Well tbh since WVM is from only the MCs view point the only girl on girl we will see is when MC is there (involved or voyeur) so there wouldn't be any wasted renders that don't involve the MC in sexual scenesWell unless we are able to give BD a whole computer park and hundreds of monkeys to operate them, make poses for them and make renders, every single render BD makes of an FF scene will be one less scene he can make with MC. Now if you like FF content that is fine, if you do not it means there will be less content you like for content that leaves you cold.
Now I suspect most people will not begrudge or mind too much some time put into FF scenes even if not their thing (just as most will not begrudge another Jamie scene even if they might prefer a Bailey, Natalie, Stacy or whichever girl you fancy since she is his first GF), but when it would become the main or close to that or a few updates in a row with only FF scenes, that would change. It is up to BD though what balance he wishes, but those like me that do not care for FF scenes will not become happier when they become many instead of some or a few. ;P
Not even talking yet about some flames that may appear if Azel, Wendy and Willow would have FF scenes while MC can only go
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Just not everybody likes it or to have scenes shown, just as others do not like other dick, anal, incest and so on. Now I also think BD will not go overboard, unless he has been listening too much to people that say it is not fair Mc has all the sex and the poor girls are sitting back or that that is unrealistic.
Now I have already a lot less problems with the girls forming some emotional attachments between themselves and those also get romantic (Jamie and Shauna also make some sense they might get curious if in them in the first place), just I do not have to see it too often or it will impact my enjoyment of the game for sure and if we go the full every woman is bisexual it will not really impress me personally either. Balance and focus of a game is important and I like this game as the MC focused fantasy it mainly was until now.
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Yeah I totally get that, not everyone is into lesbian scenes. But I think BD so far has done a good job of making those things avoidable, and also, those scenes only happen when the mc is present. Unless he decides to massively change the way he tells the story I don't think we will have to worry about it.Just not everybody likes it or to have scenes shown, just as others do not like other dick, anal, incest and so on. Now I also think BD will not go overboard, unless he has been listening too much to people that say it is not fair Mc has all the sex and the poor girls are sitting back or that that is unrealistic.
Now I have already a lot less problems with the girls forming some emotional attachments between themselves and those also get romantic (Jamie and Shauna also make some sense they might get curious if in them in the first place), just I do not have to see it too often or it will impact my enjoyment of the game for sure and if we go the full every woman is bisexual it will not really impress me personally either. Balance and focus of a game is important.
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Mind Drop #20 (04/20/2021) (scuffed)
Yo! Actual short and unstructured mind drop this week.
This is just an announcement that I'm grinding away at the update as fast as I can.
I'm experiencing normal headaches and frustration that come along with large releases, most of the frustration is caused by poor organization skills and having to piece everything together. (Most of these issues were already remedied for the future, if you remember I talked about it some a few months back.. but sadly this work was done before the new system.)
Every day I'm getting closer.
Due to me wanting to solely focus I don't plan on having any other posts until the update is out and I do not expect it to be this week so the next mind drop will be on the 4th of May.
I do not plan on announcing a date or talking about it prior to its release.
After this week simply check my patreon to see if it's up around 5-8pm EST. If it isn't up then it wasn't ready yet and check again the next day.
(and for anyone concerned, despite me pushing myself quite a bit my eyes are actually continuing to get better again)
And just to clarify because there were some questions from last week's poll:
I brought up that there would be many girl-girl relationships in WVM and that all of them would be optional and I'd like to explain the extent of that.
So, before anything else I'll say there will never be another man involved in anything. I only write / create things I like and I'm just not into that.
Outside of M->F trans people (if you choose so) there will never be another penis shown, for the MC or for the girls.
All girl-girl relationships will be optional unless you are not romantically involved with either one of the potential girls. Then they'll always be in a relationship.
All girls that can potentially be in relationships with each other will also be available to the MC. No girls are locked from involvement if you do not share.
There won't be any bullshit where the girls leave you to be together alone with each other. Fuck punishing players that way. Shit like that is really fucking lame.
I know my approach to this isn't the one that achieves "realism". But in the nicest way I can put it, fuck realism. This is a game about having fun.
If you have any other questions about it, feel free to ask
Thank you all and I love you guys <3
I'll have this update out ASAP. Thanks for the patience.
POLL: While we're on the topic of girl-girl relationships, many people commented that it depended on the girls. So let me ask, would you be okay with Jamie and Shauna getting closer in that regard?
Yes
No
Hope to see the update soon
and to answer your poll
My answer would be I would be ok with that.
Just no mmf, not into that
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