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Do we really need to do the maths here? You can not pretend you know you're pregnant when you've been just 4 days trying to get pregnant. Even if MC's legendary field goal accuracy translates to these other shooting attempts, there's a month or so of difference. As we say in Spain, that lie has very short legs -and personally, it strikes me as a very cruel lie to your mother.

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Well the mother in this case may need that sort of cruelty to be kept somewhat in line. Remember let us not act like Millie is a relative normal person, from her introduction it is quite clear she lives in her own delusional world and has been forcing all those around her to conform to that world as well, whether they wanted to or not and whether it hurt them or not.

It may not be her fault as such she is sick, but she is sick and that has consequences. :p Telling her the truth will not help and that lie was likely the only way humanly possible how Liz could achieve her goals of keeping Mom there.

Edit: One of the more interesting points is why she went for that lie beyond the panic she was in and why she thought correctly (if maybe subconciously) that was exactly the thing that would work? I suspect it is a clue to Millie and the things she cares most for and why she built her illusion Her failure to give her childeren a good and loving family life.
 
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Do we really need to do the maths here? You can not pretend you know you're pregnant when you've been just 4 days trying to get pregnant. Even if MC's legendary field goal accuracy translates to these other shooting attempts, there's a month or so of difference. As we say in Spain, that lie has very short legs -and personally, it strikes me as a very cruel lie to your mother.

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Millie dont know they only just started having sex unless Jamie phoned her mom to tell her she just lost her virginity
 

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That's not possible....I mean it is possible but it's not going to happen here...I think
Jamie stated that she wants Millie to live with them so she can get away from her husband so as long that person said something hinting towards a possible end game goal with Millie I don't think that your scenario will happen + there is one more thing this VN is at least from my point of view a feel good VN and what you're saying it's not a scenario I would see implemented.
Yes I agree with you that this is a feel good VN (one of the few ones, if you know others can you PM me some titles, cause most of the VN here are very mean spirited) but it has its dark moments... Ryker in the house, bowling alley incident, the corrupt cop, the fucked dreams about the abusive dad, the atempted kidnapping. It's not that far fetched that Millie would do something that awful. This is my opinion of course.
 
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with the Millie situation you need to remember its not just the MC, Jamie and Liz in the house with her, you also have Shauna, Azel, Rachel, Wendy and now Belle who all know him or has been watching him, plus you have Stacy and Jasmine who he has helped with personal issues and thats not forgetting Harper who hes helping alot and all the other girls.

once they start to talk with Millie i think it will help ease her mind abit, not saying it will completely change it but maybe she will soften a little bit and get her thinking about her own issues back home
 

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with the Millie situation you need to remember its not just the MC, Jamie and Liz in the house with her, you also have Shauna, Azel, Rachel, Wendy and now Belle who all know him or has been watching him, plus you have Stacy and Jasmine who he has helped with personal issues and thats not forgetting Harper who hes helping alot and all the other girls.

once they start to talk with Millie i think it will help ease her mind abit, not saying it will completely change it but maybe she will soften a little bit and get her thinking about her own issues back home
I don't think anything will matter unless she opens her eyes and sees that her husband does not care about her or Jamie and Liz. That is the issue. Jamie indicated that she had her mom watch all the interviews about the MC so she probably heard a lot of the stories already. Millie seems to think the MC has no idea what a relationship should be like since he came from a broken home, it is too bad she can't realize she doesn't know what a real relationship is either.
 

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with the Millie situation you need to remember its not just the MC, Jamie and Liz in the house with her, you also have Shauna, Azel, Rachel, Wendy and now Belle who all know him or has been watching him, plus you have Stacy and Jasmine who he has helped with personal issues and thats not forgetting Harper who hes helping alot and all the other girls.

once they start to talk with Millie i think it will help ease her mind abit, not saying it will completely change it but maybe she will soften a little bit and get her thinking about her own issues back home
Millie is unstable and has a extremely warped view of the situation... she seems to think he's brain washed her daughters so odds are she'd just assume the same if any of the other girls tried to talk to her. I think the only ones that would have a shot are Wendy and/or Azel.
 

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Millie is unstable and has a extremely warped view of the situation... she seems to think he's brain washed her daughters so odds are she'd just assume the same if any of the other girls tried to talk to her. I think the only ones that would have a shot are Wendy and/or Azel.
Also maybe someone from outside of the home like Belle maybe?
 

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Millie dont know they only just started having sex unless Jamie phoned her mom to tell her she just lost her virginity
And? It takes some weeks to know you're pregnant. If you say today you're pregnant, chances are the deed was done 2-3 weeks ago. So f if you are not currently pregnant when you say you are, then 8 months pass and... where's the baby? That's why I say it will blow up no matter what, so you'd be better off telling her the truth, that it was just a sudden reaction to try and calm her, as soon as possible. Even the 'false positive' option is quite difficult to justify nowadays - in a real life situation, that's it
 

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And? It takes some weeks to know you're pregnant. If you say today you're pregnant, chances are the deed was done 2-3 weeks ago. So f if you are not currently pregnant when you say you are, then 8 months pass and... where's the baby? That's why I say it will blow up no matter what, so you'd be better off telling her the truth, that it was just a sudden reaction to try and calm her, as soon as possible. Even the 'false positive' option is quite difficult to justify nowadays - in a real life situation, that's it
"Even the 'false positive' option is quite difficult to justify nowadays - in a real life situation, that's it"
That's not quite true...It happened to my partner and it happened to 2 of my friends that situation....so it's not really that uncommon for it to happen.
 

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"Even the 'false positive' option is quite difficult to justify nowadays - in a real life situation, that's it"
That's not quite true...It happened to my partner and it happened to 2 of my friends that situation....so it's not really that uncommon for it to happen.
Well, then I'll place my bets for that option. A white lie to cover the prior lie up. For me (just me) it doesn't make the whole situation any better, though. Honestly, for a "feel good" game as many people like to describe this one, I'm finding more and more 'borderline' situations that drag that feeling away - even if they are quick and easily dismantled
 

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Do we really need to do the maths here? You can not pretend you know you're pregnant when you've been just 4 days trying to get pregnant. Even if MC's legendary field goal accuracy translates to these other shooting attempts, there's a month or so of difference. As we say in Spain, that lie has very short legs -and personally, it strikes me as a very cruel lie to your mother.

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Since it is Day 9, it COULD be 6, since I believe Pool day with Jasmine was Day 3, though as of Friday it would have only 4, so fair enough!. Also I am pretty sure there are tests you can take a couple weeks in, so not TOO far off.
 

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Ok guys I am testing this for a new WVM project I am working on for next month. I set this up for the proposed Ruby model change. Just a quick survey, if you are interested. If we get a lot of votes I will share the results with Braindrop

could this be modified to add a third option of a blend of old and new, I don't mind the old model, but I like some of the characteristics of the new
 
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My apologies if it has been asked already, but, will version 1.0 be the final or at least have the route endings?
 

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My main concern regarding Millie is actually how and when are they going to tell her the truth about Jamie's pregnancy. Pretending a pregnancy and lying your own mother about it is such a weird, extreme move (about a quite sensitive topic) that honestly I can't see how BD can defuse it in a 'believable' way. But maybe that lack of imagination of mine explains why I translate games instead of writing them :rolleyes:
As MC said Jamie could already be pregnant they just don't know it yet. Depending on where she was in her cycle, we could see something in the next in game week or two.
 

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My apologies if it has been asked already, but, will version 1.0 be the final or at least have the route endings?
the version number as it stands is not really heading for a 1.0 end state (the game is going to be a long one) right now the version number is set up like this 0.Daynumber.Partofthecurrentday.

there's also no set number of "parts" in a given day it takes however many it takes
 
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moskyx

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As MC said Jamie could already be pregnant they just don't know it yet. Depending on where she was in her cycle, we could see something in the next in game week or two.
Pregnancy weren't supposed to be an optional thing to be later implemented? Then, of course, we can think of a thousand ways to sort things out, but it doesn't change the fact that it should be a believable way out of that lie (both story and character-wise) and also one that won't make half the playerbase to get angry because they couldn't choose not to knock Jamie off just yet

I see spoilers are not longer needed, ot at least used, so I'll drop them too
 

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Pregnancy weren't supposed to be an optional thing to be later implemented? Then, of course, we can think of a thousand ways to sort things out, but it doesn't change the fact that it should be a believable way out of that lie (both story and character-wise) and also one that won't make half the playerbase to get angry because they couldn't choose not to knock Jamie off just yet

I see spoilers are not longer needed, ot at least used, so I'll drop them too
pretty sure BD has been transparent that at least jamie getting pregnant was not going to be optional but I agree it's too early in game to make it happen now
 

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Mind Drop #9 (2/3/2021)

A rare Wednesday mind drop! I accidentally slept for way longer than intended yesterday and that's why this post is a bit behind. I don't have a whole lot to talk about but there are a few things I should mention, so let's get into it.

Game related stuff:

- Managed to get both releases out last month and that was cool but ideally they wouldn't have been both at the end of the month. The most ideal scenario is a release towards the first 7-10 days a month and a second around the 21st-23rd of the month.

- I'm working my way towards ideal but this will be another stepping stone month. The target for the next release is mid Feb with another one near the end of Feb.

- I'm considering putting out a few teaser images from the Week 1 redo soon.
Dev related stuff:
- I have both a ton and nothing to talk about at the same time. Most of the in-progress things aren't ready to be publicly discussed yet and the other things I want to talk about I go more into down below! So, onto personal stuff.

Personal related stuff:
- It was awesome being able to take the time to spend with my grandpa without it being detrimental to the game. I love the new work system. It feels really nice when everything works, my life feels a lot less robotic and I feel more rejuvenated and creative than ever before.

- A fun fact about me is that I still type like a child. I only type with my index fingers. And it's not a big deal but I type a lot... and I've been having some hand pain and it's pretty obvious it's coming from typing with two fingers.
So I've been working on how to type properly and it's been tough to fight the muscle memory and I still catch myself trying to type with two all the time but I'm getting better about it.
I've been playing some typing games in my free time (It's fun to learn a skill that will help with productivity without it feeling like a chore) and I think it'll be fun to add my average WPM to these weekly posts to see how I improve over time.
Two fingers: 71 WPM
Properly: 49 WPM (It'd be a lot faster but I make a ton of mistakes still)

Okay... time for the other topic of this post. Changes:
(WIP, NOT FINAL)(1st before, 2nd after) (Ruby is more finalized than Moon)

Ruby and Moon are the most recent to be hit with the update bat.
Ruby was one of the first characters I made for WVM and I made it work for a while but with the upcoming pool party scene it made it very apparent that something had to change. She stood out and not in a positive way.
(Not the first instance of this happening but I tweaked other scenes for her)
At first I tried to tweak her a bit and fix some of the issues but the more I tweaked the more I realized it was time for a new model... and with Moon being her sister and having similar issues she needs changed as well.
It's hard to say exactly why but I think these new models fit the respective characters / personalities way more so than the previous as well.
(Another reminder, these are not final but they are the direction they're headed in. I'll tweak throughout the week and have an update for you in the next mind drop )

Changes always bring up interesting topics and causes some to panic about more characters getting the update bat. So I want to be fully transparent and say that there are only two characters that may have some large changes in the future. Lauren (possible rework) and Katie (possible tweaks, not rework)(These are for similar reasons as Ruby and Moon) the other girls are safe.

If you hate the changes I'd say give it some time. There'll be tweaks and I think it'll grow on you.

That's all for this week! Thank you guys for everything.
I hope you all have amazing weeks and I'll see you soon, love you guys. <3
 
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