Sad to hear you're going forward with model changes.Mind Drop #9 (2/3/2021)
A rare Wednesday mind drop! I accidentally slept for way longer than intended yesterday and that's why this post is a bit behind. I don't have a whole lot to talk about but there are a few things I should mention, so let's get into it.
Game related stuff:
- Managed to get both releases out last month and that was cool but ideally they wouldn't have been both at the end of the month. The most ideal scenario is a release towards the first 7-10 days a month and a second around the 21st-23rd of the month.
- I'm working my way towards ideal but this will be another stepping stone month. The target for the next release is mid Feb with another one near the end of Feb.
- I'm considering putting out a few teaser images from the Week 1 redo soon.
Dev related stuff:
- I have both a ton and nothing to talk about at the same time. Most of the in-progress things aren't ready to be publicly discussed yet and the other things I want to talk about I go more into down below! So, onto personal stuff.
Personal related stuff:
- It was awesome being able to take the time to spend with my grandpa without it being detrimental to the game. I love the new work system. It feels really nice when everything works, my life feels a lot less robotic and I feel more rejuvenated and creative than ever before.
- A fun fact about me is that I still type like a child. I only type with my index fingers. And it's not a big deal but I type a lot... and I've been having some hand pain and it's pretty obvious it's coming from typing with two fingers.
So I've been working on how to type properly and it's been tough to fight the muscle memory and I still catch myself trying to type with two all the time but I'm getting better about it.
I've been playing some typing games in my free time (It's fun to learn a skill that will help with productivity without it feeling like a chore) and I think it'll be fun to add my average WPM to these weekly posts to see how I improve over time.
Two fingers: 71 WPM
Properly: 49 WPM (It'd be a lot faster but I make a ton of mistakes still)
Okay... time for the other topic of this post. Changes:
(WIP, NOT FINAL)(1st before, 2nd after) (Ruby is more finalized than Moon)
Ruby and Moon are the most recent to be hit with the update bat.
Ruby was one of the first characters I made for WVM and I made it work for a while but with the upcoming pool party scene it made it very apparent that something had to change. She stood out and not in a positive way.
(Not the first instance of this happening but I tweaked other scenes for her)
At first I tried to tweak her a bit and fix some of the issues but the more I tweaked the more I realized it was time for a new model... and with Moon being her sister and having similar issues she needs changed as well.
It's hard to say exactly why but I think these new models fit the respective characters / personalities way more so than the previous as well.
(Another reminder, these are not final but they are the direction they're headed in. I'll tweak throughout the week and have an update for you in the next mind drop )
Changes always bring up interesting topics and causes some to panic about more characters getting the update bat. So I want to be fully transparent and say that there are only two characters that may have some large changes in the future. Lauren (possible rework) and Katie (possible tweaks, not rework)(These are for similar reasons as Ruby and Moon) the other girls are safe.
If you hate the changes I'd say give it some time. There'll be tweaks and I think it'll grow on you.
That's all for this week! Thank you guys for everything.
I hope you all have amazing weeks and I'll see you soon, love you guys. <3
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I don't mind the changes to some of the models if BD wants to. I see it more like he wants people to be more interested in them which if a change means he thinks that's possible so be it. The only problem i have are small with the new models like ruby's eyebrow, eyes and lips not looking natural, I actually like her new hair.
On Moon i don't like the eyebrows and eyes also i actually liked the side tilt on the hair in front of the face.
Still doesn't bother me if it's his choice to change his models either or it doesn't matter if BD wants to change em let him. The new models might grow on people who knows.
On Moon i don't like the eyebrows and eyes also i actually liked the side tilt on the hair in front of the face.
Still doesn't bother me if it's his choice to change his models either or it doesn't matter if BD wants to change em let him. The new models might grow on people who knows.
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I seriously dislike them, but as you say it's Braindrop's vn. He has done so much for his fans both paying and pirates like me that I can't bad mouth him for the few things I dislike...
except he if added more Damien to the story... ahem besides that I will still be a fan
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I'm 100% positive in the next 5 years there will be love for her indeed, for her fansAny love coming for Emiko? She's just so damn cute!
I want to see one of Damien's spy report
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Yes... that's why I deleted my incredible dumb post. Thank you very much for quoting my temporary stupidity for everyone to see
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That's why I think that her living with them for a while will be what does it, if she sees for herself that he really does care for all of the girls and isn't just looking to get his dick wet, and that there's far more love in that house than in her own, she may be resistant for a while but eventually she'll realise the truth. Of course I might be wrong, there might be some big singular event that changes her mind like Ryker trying to kill Jamie and him saving her, but I really hope not. Technically that would pass my 'keep drama relevant to the girls' rule but I really hope we're done with that kind of thing.
None of my saves are working.
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
python hide:
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/ast.py", line 900, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/python.py", line 1930, in py_exec_bytecode
exec bytecode in globals, locals
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
python hide:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
ui.interact()
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/ui.py", line 289, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/core.py", line 2690, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, **kwargs)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/core.py", line 3493, in interact_core
rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/layout.py", line 998, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/transition.py", line 47, in event
return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st) # E1101
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/layout.py", line 998, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/layout.py", line 998, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/screen.py", line 697, in event
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/layout.py", line 998, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/layout.py", line 244, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/layout.py", line 998, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/layout.py", line 244, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/layout.py", line 998, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/layout.py", line 244, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/behavior.py", line 923, in event
return handle_click(self.clicked)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/behavior.py", line 858, in handle_click
rv = run(action)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/display/behavior.py", line 320, in run
return action(*args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/loadsave.py", line 753, in load
log.unfreeze(roots, label="_after_load")
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/python.py", line 1885, in unfreeze
self.rollback(0, force=True, label=label, greedy=greedy, on_load=True)
File "/private/var/folders/n9/5pl0tsqd5zx52sp70yls4yk00000gn/T/AppTranslocation/1F3924DF-460A-4B2A-9423-0E4A892A2D9C/d/WVM.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/python.py", line 1713, in rollback
raise Exception("Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?")
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
Darwin-20.3.0-x86_64-i386-64bit
Ren'Py 7.2.2.491
WVM 0.9.4
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If the option came up in the story, I'd be likely to put a bullet in Ryker. That'd end it, for sure. lol
Even write in an excuse to get away with it.
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I'm petty myself, Ryker and Damien would be found after making a "lover's Suicide pact". Damien's mom would be taken care of through a certain charity, if she even exists. So it's good I don't writeIf the option came up in the story, I'd be likely to put a bullet in Ryker. That'd end it, for sure. lol
Even write in an excuse to get away with it.
Perfect update. Zoe and Liz looked great!
Need more Rainn and Emiko scenes
Need more Rainn and Emiko scenes
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Reminds me of a scene from my favourite movie:
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Oh fuck guess it stuck with me... I loved that movie. Didn't mean to rip it off, but if anything is worth ripping off it's that one
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The more I look at the new models and changes the more I know I am going to miss the old models. Now I think it is because I really liked Ruby and I also have felt for a long time she has a very important role in the story. I felt since she showed up in the first dream sequence something more might actually be there. I like how she helped the MC a few times (gazebo, stuffed animals, short shorts). I liked their first meeting with her walking the dog and wondering how a student that lived on campus had a dog (yeah I know we learned how later). Her interruption when you are in the office with Katie was good, I loved how she kept telling Moon that the MC would do the interview outside the bowling alley. She had small parts but they all stood out to me. I will be disappointed for the change, but I will get over it. I like the change that was made for Emiko so I trust BD that he will do a good job with her since we know the current look is not the final model. I hope that maybe Braindrop will keep her original hair as that may be the thing that keeps the old and the new model connected.
As for Moon she can be changed as long as she still looks somewhat related to Ruby it will be fine. I had no connection with her other than an interest in seeing how the interview would work out or if she would try to hit on the MC after it was done. So a change in model or look for her is no big deal to me.
I know the changes all have good reasons and it is not like we are getting a change for Stacy otherwise I might riot (ok not might I would riot
). We have seen BD make several changes in the past and all of them make sense now. Natalie's hair while a lot of people loved her look, it did not make sense for a girl like her to have hair like that. It is missed but I like the new Natalie look now, even though I complained about it when the change was found during my very first play through. Emiko's whole model changed I like both models for her so no big deal to me she looks cute and both fit her personality so I am good there. Seems with the new GPU's BD has a lot of improvements have been made on the models so I guess if one model stands out a lot and it should not stand out a change is needed. I will trust BD and his decisions as long as none of those impact Stacy's Model we are good .PS we need some private Stacy time soon, I miss my redhead goddess.
Maybe BD lost old model presets? Or seen similar model in other VN? - no reason change them SO much, current state look really bad - like comix hero. Maybe in the next scenes they will play on the stage of the theater - otherwise, such an amount of bright makeup (more than Rain's in a Gothic makeup) does not make sense. The Moon is the TV presenter one, and they don't use too bright makeup, on the contrary, they try to make it look more natural - this is not the 60s, when they used GREEN lipstick and shadows for everyone in the frame so that it is better displayed on black and white TV. Mediane somewhere between old and new will look much better.
However, the Insidious Villain is unlikely to correct anything or make it worse - as usual, due to the harmful stubborn nature.
However, the Insidious Villain is unlikely to correct anything or make it worse - as usual, due to the harmful stubborn nature.