StantheMan69

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Read a lot of ppls opinions on the new update.
I am in the same boat as most here, Im critical of this games progress, and Ive voiced so here.

But...
Besides the 3rd person shift. This update is pretty much in line with the rest of the game, and I feel that most here are just on a bandwagon of hate of late. About 90% of the updates criticism, I cant even see as having any basis other than that.
TBH there are other actual problems worth talking about, instead of made up trashing of the update.
You should be better... Im not always, but something came out, and its not really that bad. Maybe not what you wanted, but... its someone else making it. You take what you get.
At this point it feels like youre complaining about a bad grade for a paper you copied.
I feel the update was alright. I had no real issue with it. The 3rd person and black box on the mc was ridiculous and I laughed every time I saw it. I feel BD should just stick to first person mod. At least if he is going to do 3rd person mode. Give the damn MC a face. I figure he put the black box thinking it would help people pretend to be the MC. To me it doesn't work, people can play a game and put themselves in the shoe of the MC even seeing a face that is not their own. Many RPG even ones with character creators. Dont have the players face and yet players put there self in the characters shoe and pretend that they are the MC.
 

datguy0115

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Can someone update on the Discord and comment section? I know its most likely more praise but I kinda want to know anyway :ROFLMAO:
 

RoadWulf

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If you're going to censor the head, then do it well. Don't just black box it. Strategic shots are possible.

Hell you showed his chin at one point. do back of the head shots at least if you want to hide his face.
 

StantheMan69

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If you want to ever see content from the dev at this point, you need the people who are mad at him. Throwing roses at BD is how you got to his current release speed, and backlash is why you got an update at all.

At this point, if you don't get that the people that are 'mad' aren't actually mad, they're just having fun at his expense as BD continues to make poor decisions, then I don't know what to tell you. Adding duckfaces and black boxes to everything is not indicative of anger. The people who were mad gave up on that ages ago when they canceled their subs. Now they're just here for the lulz. I'm sorry you aren't having fun with it, but life is too short to worry about things you don't like and can't control.
Exactly at this point people expect a yearly update and most of the comment are exactly like stated people have fun at BD expense and to be honest this forum been a blast to read and interact with. I am sure there are still some people upset about the way BD keep posting he has 2500 render and going to release an update next week. Just to get a delay and an excuse.
 

asakura14

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Is it just me or something's weird with the renditions? I remember the characters being different, and not everyone looking so similar to each other, I remember Mable being smoking hot, not so plain, as someone who plays since 2021, I can't go over how everything has changed
 

Damien81a

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so mac is going to upload the whole thing today then ?
dident they say that less then a week ago that if the whole 2700 renders is not up by the 13th she i uploading it on the 14th ;)

and mac alredy had the whole thing by then good to go, but BD needed one more shot to get it oute for his sence of achivment or some BS...
 
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derpmcderp

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On a lesser note, BD needs to quit with Shauna's whole "woe is me trans thing" we've been through it before, no need to keep rehashing it, it gets old quick.
The funny thing about that scene(s) is it reminded me that although years have passed in real life, in game it's literally been like less than a week at the most. BD is a victim now of his own procrastination, as the audience has basically lived through the plot of Inception and spent years with these characters that their MC counterpart has spent a month or two with at the most.

If I were BD at this point and I was trying to bring this all around, I would go one of two routes - either keep the story going as is but just totally stop focusing on 85% of the girls (clunky but would be fine in the long run), or do some kind of story reset. Have some major event that puts the MC on a new path, maybe his injuries from his fight turn out to be career ending and now all the attention on him fades and most of the girls vanish with his fame. This would definitely bring it down to reality and ironically would metaphorically fit with BD's total inability to make the basketball game happen. The game isn't really about basketball anyway but about interpersonal drama, and it would make the story far more interesting when you remove the fair weather fame chasers out of the mix.

That's part of what makes all the new love interests hard to take seriously - if this is supposed to be the real world, more than 0% of those girls are into him because he's famous and would drop him in a heartbeat once that stopped being true. The illusion of them all sincerely loving him after knowing him for 36 hours is a major contributing factor to all the girls feeling like they lack their own distinct personalities.

The other major contributing factor IMO is how their own drives and personal goals get swallowed by the MC's orbit. Girls do not go to college to be drafted into a sex cult of personality, where they figure out how they are going to build their entire lives around subservience to a man who is good at sports. What do any of these girls want for themselves after the MC shows romantic interest? The MC gives a literal kiss of death to their agency. The update makes this worse with a total stranger he hasn't even flirted with practically begging him to become part of her life a sentence or two after seeing him for the first time in person. When does the other shoe drop with this bizarre fantasy? Unless the MC is secretly a vampire, none of this makes sense.
 

Master of Puppets

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If you're going to censor the head, then do it well. Don't just black box it. Strategic shots are possible.

Hell you showed his chin at one point. do back of the head shots at least if you want to hide his face.
I bet it's that damn "contrarian" bullshit again. He censored that side story, and everybody hated it. So now...
 

Crowangel

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i love the update but im in agreement the stupidity of the black box makes the whole update a joke.. give the mc a dam face instead of this retro VN crap.. if the readers dont like the mc choice.. so be it, it wouldnt be the first time but dont diminish the quality of your work with stuff like this..
Not to mention the better scenes can be when you have a physical mc presence in them with the LI.. the goldfish face kisses are done with and look crap.. if your spending SO much time getting the things like uniforms and the arena perfect but settle for a black box blackout head then its ridiculous
 

Jace_Herondale

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i love the update but im in agreement the stupidity of the black box makes the whole update a joke.. give the mc a dam face instead of this retro VN crap.. if the readers dont like the mc choice.. so be it, it wouldnt be the first time but dont diminish the quality of your work with stuff like this..
Not to mention the better scenes can be when you have a physical mc presence in them with the LI.. the goldfish face kisses are done with and look crap.. if your spending SO much time getting the things like uniforms and the arena perfect but settle for a black box blackout head then its ridiculous
Also, the rectangle is pretty lazy. I prefer when it is something like someone is always converting MC's face by accident. At least it's funny.
 

Wolfen5

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At least something came out. Not what was promised nor to everyone's taste but it was something.
Now, all that's left is to see how BD goes on from now on. Will he deliver on his future promises or fall back to old habits.
It's always been about accountability. Let's hope he can get his shit together and get it done.
 

bluetack_man

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I get the black boxing. Its purpose is to allow the player to self insert as the MC, and to have this ultimate harem of sex girls. The problem is everything about the MC is so unbelievable that its impossible to self insert as him anyway! The face hardly matters at this point.

It just feels so lazy. There are a million better ways to hide the MCs face and as hard earning as this VN is you really expect just more from it at this point.
 

derpmcderp

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I get the black boxing. Its purpose is to allow the player to self insert as the MC, and to have this ultimate harem of sex girls. The problem is everything about the MC is so unbelievable that its impossible to self insert as him anyway! The face hardly matters at this point.

It just feels so lazy. There are a million better ways to hide the MCs face and as hard earning as this VN is you really expect just more from it at this point.
Yeah it's odd that the face is the sticking point when you've already made him 6'5, white, and given him a last name. Either don't show his face ever or just rip off the bandaid, but don't put a bag on his head like he's Shia Labeouf going through another mental health crisis.
 

Crowangel

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Also, the rectangle is pretty lazy. I prefer when it is something like someone is always converting MC's face by accident. At least it's funny.
with all the competing VNs out there now the dev needs to step up on things like this.. im all for the giving the mc a players own persona but thats where renaming the character comes in.. yes there are differences in race but since the mc is clearly white even that argument is mute.. Just bite the bullet live with the consequences of whatever face they give and move on to making a better game.. instead of this ridiculous amateur crap
 
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Majindevil

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Yeah it's odd that the face is the sticking point when you've already made him 6'5, white, and given him a last name. Either don't show his face ever or just rip off the bandaid, but don't put a bag on his head like he's Shia Labeouf going through another mental health crisis.
maybe he plans to sell a boxed version in the future with a little self adhesive mirror as gimmick so you could stick it to the square as self insert ;)
 
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