VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

[eltharion83]

Surprised he put out the game this fast (by his standards...), not surprised by leaving out all the lewd stuff he promised for after the game.
I doubt he'll be able to get back really working on this and keeping any schedule, let alone the one he talks about now with weekly updates... IF (!) he really wants to start working again (...and I have some severe doubts here until proven differently for a reasonably consistent period...) he should stick to something giving him a bit more leeway like monthly updates without making any promises about the amount of content provided. He has never been able to stick to his promises, so why don't lay low and play it safe for the time being? No need for him to announce weekly three-pointers all across the field when he hasn't been able to score while standing on a ladder within reach of the basket so far? (The analogy had to be made...)
This thing counts still as semi-abandoned in my books as he puts out stuff he had "finished forever ago" - that's the summary of the things he himself said so far...

The potential of this game has been great, let's see if he can get his sh*t together and work for it or if it will be just another file in the cold-case drawer...

Edit: The laziness has to be checked in other places as well: having decent renders is good, but what's with this stupid black square? Blurr the head/face if you want to but putting a damn black square in those renders ruins them completely and is some '95-amateur-paint-crap...

 

[Cat-in-the-Hat]

1) Acknowledgement that the WVM code is "Giga Easy" after OEJ called BD out when BD played the "i'm looking over all this code to find the bug" garbage.

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2) Trying to actually spoon-feed us more BS that he starts his release process 1 week prior to release and that's when all his play testing / debugging / fixing things that feel off is happening.

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He's adapting to quite a lot of posts, mostly *cough* ours. It's word-for-word stuff we've already handed to him in this thread, knowing he reads it. He may come out of it a better developer, if he actually learns from it and applies it, so there's a bit of hope still there.

But come on, that Babylon joke + layup was straight genius (we're aware it's all going to get pruned, but the jokes are worth it). Oh, and that really was ancient Sumerian. ^^

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After Chapter 2 started, promised updates have become almost always delayed by a month or several. What he says he has done and what we all get are definitely not as grand. Mackenzie appeared, the only other person who has as much happen to herself as Braindrop does to his life. The game focus is no longer there, what he is making is not working for everyone, and suddenly the former quality is no where near where it was. Black boxes, duck faces, and now the new normal has become naked women running around, bigger T and A, and redone characters. The more you talk about these things negatively, the more they become part of WVM.=

This actually raises a good question, one that I really can't understand / parse out without thinking some other things.

Ok, come with me here:

a) You have promised Xk renders for 18 months now
b) You don't have the renders
c) You change all the models making new renders (and the issue of cloning / canibalism raised by another poster)
d) compared to the original build, it all looks... a lot more amateurish

So, here's something dark and dirty you probably don't want to think about (I'm thinking about it just 'cause I read a game thread in these very forums involving real pr0n actors + dedicated phone apps and so on where it's clear Organised Crime is in play, even with the Dev stating he'd had an "unfortunate accident that had impacted his health" aka, he owed them fucking money)

a) You sit down and front-load a project - cost is about $25k if you're real serious about it, but this is Patreon / Pr0n, so call it $10k
b) You ram the PR / Patreon / Updates for a year (and gain the, let's call it $40k Patreon feed in, minus taxes) and hit a magic number of subs - let's call it 5k
c) You then sell that asset for, let's say.... $125k... but this is the biggest hit of the year + look at all that lovely Patreons etc, so call it $250k, because you're giving someone a) a revenue stream, b) a window in "how to launder money fast" and c) you can move onto the next big thing
d) some chump (in the worst case scenario someone who thinks they're the next big Artist, in most cases the Uncles' pathetic son who can front the proceeds to make it look legit, basically pick some fool who is happy to spend 60+ hrs a week on a Discord chatting shit to muppets) takes it over and fucks it up for 2+ years and can't even render the same models
e) Do it three times, but each time you can point to the suckers who paid out over those two years of tail ends (and the laundered cash is 0% tax free, you're paying yourself minus a Patreon cut but better yet, it's clean as a whistle and *you don't have to make reality based companies or fronts to do it* < expensive bit and where you get nicked a lot of the time *and* you can do it across National boundaries without too many questions), so each time you get to use prior case as a multiplier for just how a good idea it is to do this.
f) In three years, you're a millionaire and people pay you contracted rates to set this up for them. 2024 - big on goblins, a little fairy tells me.

g) If new buyers attempted to screw you / annoyed you a lot, you didn't give them original assets because their Legal Docs were written by non-professionals and you decided, "Whelp, fuck them then". New owners don't have access to original models etc, because they failed to purchase them.

Tell me how different this looks.

If you're wondering about the whole "Gave Mackenzie full access to the Patreon", you can kinda do it legally. Make it a LLC, then swap Directors / CTOs etc. Companies House (UK) does this all the time. Your name is still on the tag, but LLC private is gonna give you a load of freeway as a "private sale" especially if you set the initial share holding to like 3 or 10 or whatever. And... as far as I can see... Patreon is ultra-cool with LLCs etc being the fronts, just like Kickstarter.

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I mean, if you wanted to think about this as adults not just jack your pudding to 7' tall beanstalks playing a silly ball game.


But, you know: perhaps BD is just a muppet. Original 1,0 release suggested he wasn't, but hey.

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[atomicp]

I was thinking about BD's "method" of proofreading, having some experience in the area myself.

That's one of, if not THE most amateurish mistake one can make.

Like, our brains are wired to not do that. We become blind to details such as spelling, grammar and even semantics, because our brains operating on auto / instinct.

We don't see our own typos, our mistakes because what we see on the screen is competing with the version that exists in our heads - and let's be honest, you already have the idea where to go with a sentence.

Then again, he might suffer from Anne Rice's "too good for editing" syndrome"

 

[Cat-in-the-Hat]

I was thinking about BD's "method" of proofreading, having some experience in the area myself.

That's one of, if not THE most amateurish mistake one can make.

Like, our brains are wired to not do that. We become blind to details such as spelling, grammar and even semantics, because our brains operating on auto / instinct.

We don't see our own typos, our mistakes because what we see on the screen is competing with the version that exists in our heads - and let's be honest, you already have the idea where to go with a sentence.

Then again, he might suffer from Anne Rice's "too good for editing" syndrome"

Just stick with "Is this BD the original BD", it's gonna get you a lot further along this path.

 

[Ilhares]

We don't see our own typos, our mistakes because what we see on the screen is competing with the version that exists in our heads - and let's be honest, you already have the idea where to go with a sentence.

Oh, I absolutely notice them, almost constantly. The main reason I have posts full of them here is because a lot of my posts since last October have been done on a crappy cellular phone screen-based keyboard, so I'm typing shit wrong all the time and I just can't be arsed to fix most of it.

I greatly enjoy reading, and I have since I was a wee child, so the written word is something I tend to scrutinize fairly well. I am (occasionally) victim to completely missing a word, however. My brain is a bastard at filling in missing data sometimes just to make something more coherent, but typos stand out a great deal, as does people frequently mis-using apostrophes and the like.

 

[atomicp]

Oh, we do catch our own typos with practice. But I'm talking about proofreading itself, y'know?

Large blocks of text as in pages of a book. Most people tend to just skim, even more so if it's your own stuff!

 

[Fun Shaundi]

Well, I started my AVN game and it is coming around. I am learning DAZ 3D and Ren'py at the same time, so it may take me a while to get a better workflow.

I have a fairly powerful computer, the issue is I am running an AMD video card, so I cannot use it for Nvidia IRay in DAZ 3Dand must rely on my CPU to do the rendering. I just upgraded my computer a little over a month ago from my older Ryzen 9 setup.

My computer:

Intel Core i9 13900K (Raptor Lake)
Asus Z690 Gaming WIFI motherboard
G. Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 Z5 RGB DDR5 6000
XFX Speedster SWFT 390 Radeon 6900XT video card
Topping E50 DAC for audio output
Sabrent Rocket Q 2 TB NVMe Drive PCI-Express 4.0
Seagate Ironwolf 12 TB data drive
EVGA G2 1000 Watt Gold power supply
Thermaltake Core P3 Pro TG case (wall mounted)
Yamaha TSR-700 (RX-V6A) receiver
NHT SuperOne 2.1 speakers
RSL Speedwoofer 10s
42" LG C2 OLED TV (Monitor)

Meet one of the main girls in my story, Lydia.
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This scene took my computer roughly 14 minutes to render.

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But a more complex scene, like this one? It took it 1 hour and 22 minutes. My CPU was averaging about 71-72 degrees the whole time as well, with occasional spikes to 82. I am a complete amateur with 3D modeling but I am pretty pleased with my progress. I guess selling my 6900XT and investing in a Nvidia card would help with the rendering times.

No duck faces! For comparison?

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This is from a person who as of two days ago, was having trouble creating scenes. I have a long way to go, but I am happy with the results thus far. I will make a Patreon and have the game in it's own thread soon.

The face proportions are gorgeous too. I won't shit on BDs faces cause that might be his style, but it's refreshing to see realistic normal faces for a chance.
I'd also suggest you open your own thread so you don't get in trouble with 'offtopic' issues. You could also put the link to it in your signature to grab people's attention. Good luck with the VN!

 

[Deleted member 4175327]

I haven't yet played the last update but i guess credit is given where credit is due ( i don't remember exactle the saying) he did drop the upgrade pretty close to his deadline, albeit a fracture update but still he was "on time". For the rest, well from what i'm reading, he hasn't got fully back on track but hoping for the best. Maybe with this update being on time, he'll slowly come to sense and understand he has to work harder and get update out fast if he doesn't want to lose all the gold this game is. He got great potential with this VN and he could make way more money by not milking and doing really his job as a dev.

this exact paragraph could be said 2 years ago and be accurate. It’s a little old and worse for wear now

 

[derpmcderp]

I was thinking about BD's "method" of proofreading, having some experience in the area myself.

That's one of, if not THE most amateurish mistake one can make.

Like, our brains are wired to not do that. We become blind to details such as spelling, grammar and even semantics, because our brains operating on auto / instinct.

We don't see our own typos, our mistakes because what we see on the screen is competing with the version that exists in our heads - and let's be honest, you already have the idea where to go with a sentence.

Then again, he might suffer from Anne Rice's "too good for editing" syndrome"

So much of writing happens in the editing process that any writer who says they are "too good for editing" is out of their fucking mind IMO. Editing is taking your primordial goo and turning it into revelation.

 

[uwunya69]

Hey yall, having a bit of an issue. Starting with image d32-2637 (right after the tipoff), I've got only black screens. Would the easy solution be to just redownload the game?

 

[jamiehmcw91]

when is the female characters going to be bred

 

[Joker Jack]

I know this is not easy but the latest update was complete trash, it was just mostly about sex no story progression or whatsoever and it's fking annoying,at this rate i might be a corpse before this game is completed or makes any real progress, and about the MC being babied damn let him make his own decisions motherfucker! I get it! You're surrounded by loving people but gahdamn!! Dropped this shit, it's just frustrating to play.

 

[eltharion83]

I know this is not easy but the latest update was complete trash, it was just mostly about sex no story progression or whatsoever and it's fking annoying,at this rate i might be a corpse before this game is completed or makes any real progress, and about the MC being babied damn let him make his own decisions motherfucker! I get it! You're surrounded by loving people but gahdamn!! Dropped this shit, it's just frustrating to play.

...The latest update barely had any sex in it, it was just about the basketball game... Did you even play it...?

Other than that I'm with you. Barely story(-progression). The amount of lewd scenes is okay but you could easily fit some story in between and use the spare time for something meaningful instead of the mc resting or having the same hollow thoughts/conversations over and over again.

...The last progression storywise

Spoiler: ...slight Spoiler...

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[thorin0815]

Hey yall, having a bit of an issue. Starting with image d32-2637 (right after the tipoff), I've got only black screens. Would the easy solution be to just redownload the game? View attachment 2505886

Maybe it's the legendary giant black box special double-down edition.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[×Infinite×]

52 weeks 52 updates starts soon and still hasn't released the 1000 renders that are missing in this update.

 

[preglovr12]

52 weeks 52 updates starts soon and still hasn't released the 1000 renders that are missing in this update.

No joke, that got rolled into the 52 updates in 52 weeks.

 

[Wolfeszorn]

No joke, that got rolled into the 52 updates in 52 weeks.

and cut down into multiple 200-300 render chunks. so that´s at least 4-5 updates that he can scratch off his 52 week 52 update plan xD

 

[preglovr12]

Which is exactly what some of the whiners have said he should do to get things on time again. But once the circle jerk starts...

Whining will flow any direction needed to continue, I guess

With NEW content absolutely, but Mac some semblance of these renders a month ago...

EDIT: Shit, I forgot BD also admitted that these were "ready for a while."

 

[atomicp]

Not matter how many, their quality is like... way lower.

 

[×Infinite×]

So, once he uses those renders, the excuses begin.