VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

[Grif1001]

nice game bUt sex animatn looks dull

That typo really brings out the "U" in but...

 

[Grif1001]

I didn't mean it in the sense that we'll be picking up an Xbox controller to play a full 4 quarters. But when you put:

In fact they didn't even manage to win a game last year. All eyes are on you to perform and turn the team around.

it kinda infers that as this huge up and coming basketball star who went to a school with a down and out team you'll be trying to better them. IDK, i expected more leadership and team dynamic stuff as well as the normal L.I drama stuff from a harem game. Instead it's the MC's mindset of "oh nice, another girl slipped and fell onto my dick". I'll just have to temper my expectations from now on.

He's practicing Regan-omics... He is starting by getting his coach really "inspired" and hoping it will have a trickle-down effect... (and yes, I realize that I just aged myself)

 

[TigerWolfe]

I won't try to speak for anyone else but...

I became a supporter years ago Because of the basketball. I played in HS - an average player so nothing special to my skill set - and this was a bit of a nostalgic trip in an AVN, with, at the time, a good story and Not an over-the-top harem.

I stopped supporting more than a year ago due to the lack of development consistency and BD's communication problems (consistently overpromising and underdelivering... not a good way to build and Keep your fan/supporter base).

So - while I understand your point, I chose to continue to follow WVM Because of the BB - something unusual for an AVN and worth seeing if BD can make a good story of it.

I want the BB to be more front and center since it Is the reason the MC is the center of this story and the reason he has the number and type of women in his harem.

There are plenty of AVNs on F95 with the lots of sex and 'light' on story formula.

I actually thought WVM could be a great story with adult relationships including sex.

My favorite MC female journey is with Coach Harper - and I am looking for more of this relationship through time.

Cheers!!

Basketball can still be a core part of the game without rendering out a slideshow of a basketball game every x updates. That's what's weird to me I guess. But different strokes for different folks.

 

[Niuul]

Basketball can still be a core part of the game without rendering out a slideshow of a basketball game every x updates. That's what's weird to me I guess. But different strokes for different folks.

True, but I guess it's hard to see the big picture when development is... what it is. Been how many years for WVM and we only just recently got an exhibition game that ended up in a suspension of the MC to delay having to do that again even more. It is what it is I suppose.

 

[Grif1001]

If You Give A Milker A Dollar. by Grif1001

(based on If You Give A Mouse A Cookie, by Laura Numeroff)

If you give a milker a dollar,
He's gonna ask you to join a higher tier.
If you join a higher tier,
he'll promise early release dates to the tier above you.
If you pay more for early releases,
He'll ask you to refer friends.
If you refer enough friends he will develop a strong support base.
if he develops a strong support base,
he will quit his day job to work on the game full time.
If he quits his job to work on the game full time,
he will want to enjoy a little time off since he was working two jobs for so long
if he takes some time off,
he will get behind on the game progress.
If he gets behind on the game progress,
he will blame it on illness, computer problems, or other excuses.
If you believe his excuses,
He will become lazy and the delays will increase.
if the delays increase,
fans will begin to complain
If the fans complain,
he will rush out an update real quick.
If he starts taking long breaks and then rushing episodes,
the quality will decline.
If the quality starts to decline,
he may lose supporters.
If he loses supporters,
he may get frustrated.
If he gets frustrated,
he may just abandon the game and start a new one.
if he starts a new game,
he's gonna want a dollar.

 

[Wen I Say]

It's weird to me, how many people are really hung up on the lack of basketball games played in an AVN... like it's the backdrop it's the excuse for the titties... if you want basketball... just like, watch a basketball game.

the same thing can be said if you want to watch titties...just like, watch a porno... I'm cool with Buddy making this game in an image that right now only he can see but why the deception? If I told you I was making a story about a dude and his dog but he had a cat that barked and didn't even have a dog, you'd be scratching your head and saying why not just say the story was about a dude's cat that acted like or thought it was a dog. Why the convolution if he wanted to just make a slice of life VN with the MC going to a college to be with his friend and he so happened to try out for the bb team that shit makes infinitely more sense than him being some sports phenom in name only which confuses me the reader because everyone treats him so irreverently with seemingly no reason to. What were his career statistics that made him so good? Where's the actual evidence that he's this otherworldy player as depicted? You can't just bake character traits and history into a character and omit reasoning for doing so because if that's the case why do it at all? Honestly you take the fact that he is supposedly a basketball star out of the picture the whole story falls apart......... No pussy except best friend since he'd never would have met his GF since he met her sister playing organized basketball everything just unravels from there.

 

[TigerWolfe]

the same thing can be said if you want to watch titties...just like, watch a porno... I'm cool with Buddy making this game in an image that right now only he can see but why the deception? If I told you I was making a story about a dude and his dog but he had a cat that barked and didn't even have a dog, you'd be scratching your head and saying why not just say the story was about a dude's cat that acted like or thought it was a dog. Why the convolution if he wanted to just make a slice of life VN with the MC going to a college to be with his friend and he so happened to try out for the bb team that shit makes infinitely more sense than him being some sports phenom in name only which confuses me the reader because everyone treats him so irreverently with seemingly no reason to. What were his career statistics that made him so good? Where's the actual evidence that he's this otherworldy player as depicted? You can't just bake character traits and history into a character and omit reasoning for doing so because if that's the case why do it at all? Honestly you take the fact that he is supposedly a basketball star out of the picture the whole story falls apart......... No pussy except best friend since he'd never would have met his GF since he met her sister playing organized basketball everything just unravels from there.

Like I said the basketball is the backdrop it's the framework in which the story is set. It's where all the characters develop and how they all know each other, all very important. I just don't personally have a desire to click through 10s of screens of basketball games, as that'll not be developing any of the interpersonal stuff or the sexy stuff... It'll just be basketball for basketball's sake. I'm a huge hockey fan, and if that was the sport of choice here I wouldn't need more than the occasional lip service to games played.

 

[Wen I Say]

Like I said the basketball is the backdrop it's the framework in which the story is set. It's where all the characters develop and how they all know each other, all very important. I just don't personally have a desire to click through 10s of screens of basketball games, as that'll not be developing any of the interpersonal stuff or the sexy stuff... It'll just be basketball for basketball's sake. I'm a huge hockey fan, and if that was the sport of choice here I wouldn't need more than the occasional lip service to games played.

your opinion is your own I'm not tryna argue it, My point was the instability and convolution of the plot line because it's been half a decade with the plot being stagnant from what was depicted originally if you're only here for the nudes that's your right.

 

[TigerWolfe]

your opinion is your own I'm not tryna argue it, My point was the instability and convolution of the plot line because it's been half a decade with the plot being stagnant from what was depicted originally if you're only here for the nudes that's your right.

I'm definitely not an only here for the nudes person, the flippantness of my original post was just that, I'm just along for the ride to see where if ever we end up. It's like a soap opera minus all the parts that frustrate me cause everyone likes MC, there's no will they won't they, the answer is always they will, so I'm content to just ride along and see how they get there.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

Any updates or news on the rewrite, maybe from Discord? Once the rewrite is done I can play again (restart actually), because playing now is useless, I wish I could ask on Discord myself, but as far as I know it's patron only.

 

[Nurikabe]

Any updates or news on the rewrite, maybe from Discord? Once the rewrite is done I can play again (restart actually), because playing now is useless, I wish I could ask on Discord myself, but as far as I know it's patron only.

It isn't really being "re-written;" it's being modified. I guess there was a lot of complaining about how much happened in a 24-hour period. So, he is making things happen over weeks instead of days. He is changing some of the dialogue surrounding what people are considering 'incest-teasing.' Apparently, these small changes will make it so people stop bitching about Azel and Willow/Cedar (possibly Wendy) making incestual overtures toward the MC. Like that will ever happen.

 

[joodan]

Hey, I've never played the game. Should I give it a try now or is there going to be a major update soon?

 

[Trojaner]

Hey, I've never played the game. Should I give it a try now or is there going to be a major update soon?

 

[EJW]

It isn't really being "re-written;" it's being modified. I guess there was a lot of complaining about how much happened in a 24-hour period. So, he is making things happen over weeks instead of days. He is changing some of the dialogue surrounding what people are considering 'incest-teasing.' Apparently, these small changes will make it so people stop bitching about Azel and Willow/Cedar (possibly Wendy) making incestual overtures toward the MC. Like that will ever happen.

He also said that he will be adding a lot of stuff like some new people that are in the second season. Like the lady at the diner and a few others that act like the mc knows who they are but never saw them until second season. Also, to work on non futa background for Shawna.

 

[Nurikabe]

Hey, I've never played the game. Should I give it a try now or is there going to be a major update soon?

Chapter updates are every few weeks. It is kinda difficult to explain what a chapter is. I would say it is more like he releases each major scene as he completes them. You can always wait until the chapter is released or after several chapters are released. But there is quite a bit of content (i.e. chicks to screw) currently available.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

It isn't really being "re-written;" it's being modified. I guess there was a lot of complaining about how much happened in a 24-hour period. So, he is making things happen over weeks instead of days. He is changing some of the dialogue surrounding what people are considering 'incest-teasing.' Apparently, these small changes will make it so people stop bitching about Azel and Willow/Cedar (possibly Wendy) making incestual overtures toward the MC. Like that will ever happen.

Not just that, we'll also be meeting new people, because there are mentions of events that never happened and people we didn't meet in the original, so in addition to modifying it, it will also get plenty of additional content, otherwise the days would be too empty instead, which is even worse.

What made BD think it was a good idea to change continuity, unless he's working on the rewrite in the background while still doing small updates to the story, but if he's not working on it at all then someone or something should force him to, whether he likes to or not.

Yeah the whole incestual (and Azel) teasing, just for BD to say they're never getting content just doesn't make sense, and why would he put his aunt's likeness in a porn game, of course people would want the MC to fuck her, same with Willow/Cedar, just commit to it, change relationships where necessary, so a patch can be made to restore all relationships to the original, because as it stands they're just taking up space, it's like BD wanted to add them to the harem, but just changed his mind, Willow/Cedar was attracted to him, but when she learned they were siblings she wasn't anymore, that's not how that works.

 

[Nurikabe]

Not just that, we'll also be meeting new people, because there are mentions of events that never happened and people we didn't meet in the original, so in addition to modifying it, it will also get plenty of additional content, otherwise the days would be too empty instead, which is even worse.

What made BD think it was a good idea to change continuity, unless he's working on the rewrite in the background while still doing small updates to the story, but if he's not working on it at all then someone or something should force him to, whether he likes to or not.

He is working on the changes in tandem with the new content. He has been very explicit about those plans and shared how that is happening in his dev notes.

Adding new people, while I don't know the extent of that, is a strange thing to do. As if he doesn't have enough women or enough content. So, I can only imagine it is to better tell part of the story. Apparently, he is bringing back the random restraunt bathroom hookup as we saw a couple of chapters ago. That is fine, I just do not understand why that would require changes in the older content where she is introduced. So, while I agree that it would be nice if he left the older content alone and just moved forward, at least he is not stopping new content or stopping entirely and "reworking" the whole game, as so many devs do these days.

Yeah the whole incestual (and Azel) teasing, just for BD to say they're never getting content just doesn't make sense, and why would he put his aunt's likeness in a porn game, of course people would want the MC to fuck her, same with Willow/Cedar, just commit to it, change relationships where necessary, so a patch can be made to restore all relationships to the original, because as it stands they're just taking up space, it's like BD wanted to add them to the harem, but just changed his mind, Willow/Cedar was attracted to him, but when she learned they were siblings she wasn't anymore, that's not how that works.

It isn't unrealistic to think that Willow would see the MC and be attracted to him, not knowing who he is. The game handles this well. Every time it is brought up Cedar (formerly known as Willow) shuts it down quickly and is embarrassed. Unfortunately, the incest crowd really wanted to see some action there and wouldn't let it go. So, now BD has to change shit to shut those tools up. Adding/changing content to make people happy is just not a smart way to do business. There will never be content that someone does not bitch about or that somebody is entirely happy with. And what makes one guy bitch makes another rejoice. In general, it is best to just tell the story. A good story will find an audience.

 

[Nommed Plums]

Hey, I've never played the game. Should I give it a try now or is there going to be a major update soon?

There's enough content to start my man, once the faces start getting ducky just know its about to slow down. The game is probably way more enjoyable when you lower or have no expectations.

 

[MarkChadWinters]

With no sign of the update, I will lay this out. I'd love to have the MC have a threesome with Jasmine and Tia. Two pretty black booties? Yes Please

(And any thing to do with Bailey. She's the god damn bee's knees)

 

[Azraelith]

-ranting about incest snip-

First off... Lol. Lmao, even.

Secondly, It's not like him not adding it wouldn't have changed shit. BD knew full well that how he added Cedar/Willow would look but went ahead and did it anyway; Despite the entire premise looking like she was someone who you could date and honestly? When I first saw her I immediately was all for going after her, even not knowing that she was family simply because of the backstory behind her. I did however make a comment way earlier sometime about how forced it felt that she was icked away from it despite crushing on MC. Furthermore, He shouldn't have even fucking added any sort of romantic references towards Azel or have her been so flirty (fwiw from what I can remeber) towards the MC if he didn't want people to dick her down. It's almost like he forgot what kind of game he's making (hint: it isn't wholesome) and then tried to back-pedal after saying 'Hmm... no you don't get anything with any of these characters despite them taking up a SIGNIFICENT chunk of screen time'. Which, okay; sure, but don't in that case you think they should be drastically reduced in screen time instead of being kept front and forward facing?

I haven't touched this game in over a year and honestly, from reading some of the comments have no desire to do so. Duck-Faces aren't for me. All I remember though is how BD kept pushing shit back further and further every time. I'm not even sure why I'm still watching this thread but I can't bring myself to un-watch it.

I swear it's like a train wreck in slow motion, I can't look away.