VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

[Reniere]

10k in pay is decent in the US. $10k in Patreon subs isn't remotely the same. Patreon is going to be taking up to 30% when all is said and done. That 70% you get is only $84k/year in revenue. Assuming he was above board as a dev, he would have spent some of that on Daz assets and the hardware to render the game on. If you've been top 50-ish in adult games on Patreon while using Daz assets, I'm gonna guess some of the Daz model sellers are verifying you've paid to use their assets that appear in your game.

Gemini (google AI) says that to be the equivalent of $120k in pay from a normal job would be like $160k-180k as an indie, so his $84k is not even half of what Graphtreon might make it seem. After expenses and self-employment taxes on the remainder, $120k in Patreon might be equal to making $60k at a regular job. Lots of variable in there, but definitely not "getting rich" levels of income.

As I've said on the topic before, not defending BD in the least, just trying to bring some reality to this conversation, as folks who've never been self-employed in the US don't understand the distinction between getting a paycheck and being hit with that 1099. I also just read that the Patreon 1099 in the US is for gross revenue, so you likely have to do a self-employed or business-type return to write off all the fees they charged. Otherwise you're paying income tax on the money they took from you.

here do the math with this site.

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[Blue Pasture]

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Did you quote the wrong post, because I even explicitly mention Graphtreon in my post.

Graphtreon is providing a guestimate of what they think the gross revenue is based on the publicly available number of paid members and some guess of what the average $ per sucker is. If you go back to the estimates prior to 2022, it looks like the actual gross revenue was public, and his members averaged $5.51 back then.

His member count has dropped by 500 since then, and I would hope the ones that are remaining are on the lower tiers making that average drop. Hence, $10k in gross revenue is entirely plausible. The rest of the math is based on very basic business accounting principles like the difference between gross revenue and net profit, and US tax law.

 

[Reniere]

Did you quote the wrong post, because I even explicitly mention Graphtreon in my post.

Graphtreon is providing a guestimate of what they think the gross revenue is based on the publicly available number of paid members and some guess of what the average $ per sucker is. If you go back to the estimates prior to 2022, it looks like the actual gross revenue was public, and his members averaged $5.51 back then.

His member count has dropped by 500 since then, and I would hope the ones that are remaining are on the lower tiers making that average drop. Hence, $10k in gross revenue is entirely plausible. The rest of the math is based on very basic business accounting principles like the difference between gross revenue and net profit, and US tax law.

All I saw was Gemini and blacked out lol

 

[Jaga Telesin]

10k in pay is decent in the US. $10k in Patreon subs isn't remotely the same. Patreon is going to be taking up to 30% when all is said and done. That 70% you get is only $84k/year in revenue.

$84k per year for doing LI bio sheets? Sign me up!

 

[jhb360]

All I saw was Gemini and blacked out lol

Google Gemini is like a cheating partner: It only tells you what it thinks you need to know lol

 

[MarkChadWinters]

Without double checking it, I'm sure my numbers weren't 100% on. I'm not very good at math, but I think the point was, he makes way too much money, even with Pateron taking their cut, he makes way too much for the little work he does

 

[hic86]

Without double checking it, I'm sure my numbers weren't 100% on. I'm not very good at math, but I think the point was, he makes way too much money, even with Pateron taking their cut, he makes way too much for the little work he does

Oh absolutely. If we are going based on effort put in.... I'm pretty sure he owes all of his Patrons money

 

[Mcknobz33]

Is that fucker still MIA?

 

[Soulpuppet]

Is that fucker still MIA?

He probably died. Don't worry, his wife is a necromancer so he'll live again to only post a 5min update. Then later he will run out of gas and be stalked by a chainsaw wielding inbred psychopath for months but he will somehow escape him and come out with another 5min update. All while making LI bio's.

With the amount of bullshit excuses and lies he comes up with...this could very much come true....

 

[Blue Pasture]

$84k per year for doing LI bio sheets? Sign me up!

$84k would be revenue. Actual take-home equivalent salary maybe $60k. Still too much for not delivering shit. I haven't been around this game since the beginning, but I recall someone saying he was a Steelers fan. If he is living in the Pittsburg area, $60k is below the median household income for the area.

 

[Thriller]

These are Azel's new stats.

And here is a copy of her old ones. She went from 34DD to a 34BB major breast reduction. WTF.

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The only reason I'm still playing this shitty game..

 

[Farspire]

Gemini says that 10k should give you a decent livelihood for a family of 4 in USA and that's considering you're a hard working middle class.
BD probably isn't doing it as main job.

considering most people survive on 2k a month

 

[Farspire]

He's making 1/2 that, maybe less. But with the way he's been acting the past few years.... He doesn't deserve a penny of it.

May or may not i remember we did the math on it in the forums a year ago and 12-1300 pages back. Hes currently at what 2000 Pats, most common donation lvl he has is 20$ some more some less but even so it could make as someone else said 2000$ at 1 dollar donation, 40,000 at 20$ hence why i said he makes between 10-30k a month on average between those that pay more and those that pay left. Cant get exact numbers without the shots. We had them once posted in the forum ages ago but *shrugs* that was then when he had 3,000 patrons.

 

[Wolfeszorn]

Sooooo.... Why exactly are we going at each others throats just to sum up how much money he approximately steals from each of his followers? It was more fun when we just shit on him for his lies without having to do math or guessing his income...

 

[jhb360]

Sooooo.... Why exactly are we going at each others throats just to sum up how much money he approximately steals from each of his followers? It was more fun when we just shit on him for his lies without having to do math or guessing his income...

Well, if we can't be passionate about the actual game, we have to amuse ourselves somehow lol

And yea, whether he makes $10K a year US, or 100K per year US, he's still raking in income for the equivalent of a popcorn fart worth of effort.

 

[Arcane Imagination]

Gemi who? Now really, that sum per month for some is like the entire year earnings working their butts off

It's the Google AI

 

[MarkChadWinters]

I do recall someone saying something about him being a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers. (I for one am not a fan of Football. Never saw the appeal, but do enjoy other sports ie MMA, Baseball, Hockey, and Curling....( yeah, I said curling, shut up)

However I guess the Steelers play tomorrow. So if they lose, then he'll have no more Football to watch and then, he might, just might have to focus on this project....Or, you know, he'll just "Keep Fucking the dog". Weird expression I know, but it's a Canadian slang . It means

• Wasting time
• Slacking off
• Avoiding work
• Doing nothing productive when you’re supposed to be working
  
  So let's hope his football team fucking falls flat on their faces and blow the game. Not because we want BD to actually turn out anything, just in spite of him at this point.

 

[EEMNHMQI]

So let's hope his football team fucking falls flat on their faces and blow the game.

Why should he wait for the Steelers to lose to fuck a dog? Don't go giving him any more excuses

 

[jhb360]

I do recall someone saying something about him being a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers. (I for one am not a fan of Football. Never saw the appeal, but do enjoy other sports ie MMA, Baseball, Hockey, and Curling....( yeah, I said curling, shut up)

However I guess the Steelers play tomorrow. So if they lose, then he'll have no more Football to watch and then, he might, just might have to focus on this project....Or, you know, he'll just "Keep Fucking the dog". Weird expression I know, but it's a Canadian slang . It means

• Wasting time
• Slacking off
• Avoiding work
• Doing nothing productive when you’re supposed to be working
  
  So let's hope his football team fucking falls flat on their faces and blow the game. Not because we want BD to actually turn out anything, just in spite of him at this point.

When I was in the (US) Navy, we referred to it as "Porking the Pooch" lol

Same meaning, just us 20 somethings trying to be cool back in the day.

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

Almost mid January of 2026 and BD is radio silence again ...Funny thing is he keeps getting new subs for barely any kind of promises....Earns an impresive big sum every month for doing nothing