VN Ren'Py Yesterday's Crossroads [Ch.3 v0.4.1a] [CHAQUINN0]

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MiltonPowers

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who the fuck isn't bored of them :ROFLMAO: I have a save for every one of the girls/potential combos except those two. And I'm looking forward to Riley too, whatever that entails.
Same (paths for everyone except those 2). I've got Riley in my top 3, I'm quite excited to see where it goes. :love:
 
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Yes, that's true. But she didn't try anything else despite sleeping in the same bed as the MC.
That's fair... I think it was mostly about enticing the MC and showing him what he's been missing out on. I still count that as taking initiative.

Zeke cheats on her constantly, suspects she might be doing the same with the MC and proposes to her because... he's desperate to prevent her from leaving him?
I don't remember how accurate this is. Did Zeke cheat on Keyla in college, or was this just a suspicion? And I don't remember anything about him suspecting her cheating on him. That said, I agree that this leap in not-logic is a big ask. If Zeke had access to pussy galore, then something about Keyla would've been special to him, but not special enough to not cheat on her. I can understand Keyla's perspective better, agreeing to Zeke's proposal after getting dumped by the MC, maybe out of fear of being alone.
My general point is that young people are dumb, and rarely think things through. Zeke might have had a subjectively compelling reason to propose to Keyla which seem too farfetched from an objective outside perspective.
 
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Everyone is only talking about the two main characters Kim and Kayla. I would like to see Cynthia as a LI too, not just a one night girlfriend.
 

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Everyone is only talking about the two main characters Kim and Kayla. I would like to see Cynthia as a LI too, not just a one night girlfriend.
For me that would be Sarah think her name is Keyla's friend.
 

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That's fair... I think it was mostly about enticing the MC and showing him what he's been missing out on. I still count that as taking initiative.
Some girls do take initiative to an extent like Kimmy inviting the MC back to her place or Julia inviting him to the park even if you don't ask her out at the first opportunity but if you don't make a move on them... nothing happens. They just give up. I'd like to see at least one of the girls be more proactive and Kim is the one that needs to do the most work if she wants a (second) chance with the MC.

I don't remember how accurate this is. Did Zeke cheat on Keyla in college, or was this just a suspicion? And I don't remember anything about him suspecting her cheating on him. That said, I agree that this leap in not-logic is a big ask. If Zeke had access to pussy galore, then something about Keyla would've been special to him, but not special enough to not cheat on her. I can understand Keyla's perspective better, agreeing to Zeke's proposal after getting dumped by the MC, maybe out of fear of being alone.
My general point is that young people are dumb, and rarely think things through. Zeke might have had a subjectively compelling reason to propose to Keyla which seem too farfetched from an objective outside perspective.
It was pretty much confirmed here:

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As for Zeke knowing about Keyla & MC, there are some hints about it like when he tells the MC he proposed out of desperation but not elaborating further when pressed on it. I just find it very strange that he slept with any girl that opened their legs for him and was still so desperate to prevent Keyla from breaking up with him that he resorted to proposing. It's even more baffling if he knew about her & the MC. I can somewhat understand Keyla's perspective too (even if it's still really stupid)... but Zeke's? Nope.
 
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Some girls do take initiative to an extent like Kimmy inviting the MC back to her place or Julia inviting him to the park even if you don't ask her out at the first opportunity but if you don't make a move on them... nothing happens. They just give up. I'd like to see at least one of the girls be more proactive and Kim is the one that needs to do the most work if she wants a (second) chance with the MC.
Yeah, I can see your point. If there's anyone who should/would fight for the MC, it would be Kim. Except for Keyla, she's the only LI who knows what she's missing out on.

I just find it very strange that he slept with any girl that opened their legs for him and was still so desperate to prevent Keyla from breaking up with him that he resorted to proposing.
Yeah, that is very weird. Still, he could have a subjective compelling reason... For instance, pressure or promises from his parents relating to him being in a stable relationship or something. It'd be fucked up, and I don't think anything like this was even hinted at, but it could easily be written in if that ever gets explored more.
 
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There's also a moment where Zeke says Julia looks at the MC with the same look "someone" used to look at him. It may be Kim he's referring to, but I do think he means Keyla.
I think this desperation was that he knew Keyla and MC were doing stuff, and she was going to break up with him, so he proposed to her so she wouldn't.
Maybe it doesn't make much sense, but it's what I can think of too
I was thinking the same thing, Zeke knew *Kayle was cheating on him with Mc. He didn't like Kayle but he did it out of anger and jealousy towards Mc.

Or there is a small possibility that Zeke was forced by his family to marry *Kayle.

No need to look for a logical reason when even the developer calls Zeke and *Kayle stupid. :BootyTime:
 

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I was thinking the same thing, Zeke knew *Kayle was cheating on him with Mc. He didn't like Kayle but he did it out of anger and jealousy towards Mc.

Or there is a small possibility that Zeke was forced by his family to marry *Kayle.

No need to look for a logical reason when even the developer calls Zeke and *Kayle stupid. :BootyTime:
Starting to go around in a circle as some of these details have been covered at length in previous posts.

Zeke proposed to Keyla out of desperation; and I don't recall seeing any reason given for why he was so desperate, yet. I've never seen any indication he did it out of anger or jealousy. He was cheating on Keyla with "all those sorority girls..." so why would he be jealous or angry that Keyla cheated with one person? With both of the conversations they have with Sarah or MC, neither seemed to love or care for the other and both had lousy reasons to get married at all.

Thankfully Chaquinn writes his code pretty clearly for whos' talking as I didn't happen to have a save near this spot and didn't feel like skipping through to this Chapter 3 conversation. See line 5 of the scene.

Python:
scene ch3_zeke_talk1_42 with dissolve
    ...Zeke "Yesterday on my way home I had made up my mind."
    Zeke "I wasted both our lives long enough."
    scene ch3_zeke_talk1_43 with dissolve
    Zeke "Sometimes I even ask myself if I ever even loved her."
    Zeke "I proposed to her... out of... desperation."
    scene ch3_zeke_talk1_44 with dissolve
    MC "Desperation?"
    scene ch3_zeke_talk1_45 with dissolve
    Zeke "…"
    scene ch3_zeke_talk1_42 with dissolve
    Zeke "Never mind, it’s done now anyway."
    Zeke "Since we bought the house together, we’ll put it up for sale and split 50/50. I’ll keep my car, and she’ll keep hers."
    scene ch3_zeke_talk1_46 with dissolve
    Zeke "I’ll rent a room nearby for a few weeks until I find a place."
    Zeke "I told her she can stay in the house since her parents don’t live here, not really sure what she will do, but I don’t think she will stay there either."
    ...
I'm hoping to find out what he considered "desperation" enough to propose to someone he doesn't think he ever loved.
 

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Even though none of the girls want to go, except for Candace, the MC calls to take them to the downtown Christmas event, where Zeke will be with his new girlfriend. Taking Keyla there would be a terrible idea, so I guess that's why she's not an option.
i get it now thx for explanation but letting them would be an interesting plot too
 

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Even though none of the girls want to go, except for Candace, the MC calls to take them to the downtown Christmas event, where Zeke will be with his new girlfriend. Taking Keyla there would be a terrible idea, so I guess that's why she's not an option.
Certainly makes sense. So all we'll need now is an option to leave and 'Go See Keyla' :devilish:
 

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Even though none of the girls want to go, except for Candace, the MC calls to take them to the downtown Christmas event, where Zeke will be with his new girlfriend. Taking Keyla there would be a terrible idea, so I guess that's why she's not an option.
He does invite them, and like you said they all decline and offer alternatives, except for Candace, who hasn't been there before.

I was somewhat disappointed that he didn't even have the option to at least call Keyla. At the very least, if not for immediate romantic interests, to hang out again and be there for her in the hopes of getting more information. It'll be hard to make an informed decision on if I accept what she did and why, for the reasons she gave, without a thorough talk with her. Even if she didn't want to tell the MC her feelings and wreck things with MC/Kim, why would she feel so desperate as to marry someone she admits she didn't love? MC and Kim were only dating, who's to say they'd have stayed together or even gotten engaged?
 
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why would she feel so desperate as to marry someone she admits she didn't love?
Again, despite the resident therepist arguing otherwise, real life tell you that people get together/married for all sorts of the dumbest reasons under the sun possible....often because they got pregnant which has to be right up there as one of the most idiotic. Yet people do it every day....

....Hell there's even a reality show about getting married these days. Need I say more?
 
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Again, despite the resident therepist arguing otherwise, real life tell you that people get together/married for all sorts of the dumbest reasons under the sun possible....often because they got pregnant which has to be right up there as one of the most idiotic. Yet people do it every day....

....Hell there's even a reality show about getting married these days. Need I say more?
Oh I fully agree that it's really done for wrong reasons. The reasons she gave, that she was desperate because the MC was with someone else seems like a shallow/cop out answer to me though.

Her being at University and pretty young seems to a bit odd to simply say "I was scared to spend the rest of my life alone as the MC was dating someone else". Maybe I'm overthinking it.... and it's really just that shallow. :unsure:
 
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