VN Ren'Py Yesterday's Crossroads [Ch.3 v0.4.1a] [CHAQUINN0]

[cooldevo]

Zeke is his own person, who made his own choices and mistakes. Yeah, what Keyla and MC did was bad, but both him proposing marriage out of a fear of losing her, and Keyla accepting the proposal out of fear of being alone, play a much larger role in his current unhappiness.

I don't remember if it's outright stated that Zeke had his own extracurricular activities. He does cheat on Keyla in the present, as a result of his dead bedroom/marriage.
Sure, Keyla shouldn't have accepted the proposal... But I'm guessing that in the MC's mind, he did the right thing by breaking things off with Keyla, and didn't see any value in hurting Zeke even more with the truth. Though, I do agree that from a certain perspective, the MC is a special kind of asshole who's able to sleep with his best friend's partner while keeping that friendship up.

Zeke is indeed actively dating Miriam while still married to Keyla. If you are on Julia's path, it's put right out into the open in the story; which you don't see on any other path. Also on Julia's path, Miriam and Julia talk and Miriam airs some concerns she has that something is fishy with Zeke.... and it is.

So I don't understand the crosshairs and anger solely on Keyla. Keyla went into the marriage for suboptimal reasons. Zeke did solely for his "desperation reason", that I presume will also suboptimal. Keyla in the past cheated on Zeke. Zeke is currently cheating on Keyla. Both are hiding it from each other. It seems like a 50/50 split for the hate/anger between the two of them right now. Both made bad decisions equally on this one...

 

[cooldevo]

Its kinda willingly dooming Zeke to a shitty relationship no matter what due to a reason the mc created in the first place

Some may argue that Zeke maybe cheated too but in this case it would just have been one more reason to tell both of them to NOT MARRY if they are really supposed to be his friends lol

Zeke is cheating, on Keyla. There's no question about it, and no maybes. She cheated in the past, he's cheating now. That's an even wash. If dating Julia, you come across Zeke on a double date that is NOT Keyla and he essentially admits to cheating.

Neither Keyla nor Zeke cheating doomed the marriage. And both Zeke and Keyla admit that in the story... it was already doomed before it even started due to both having poor reasons to get married. They were not together out of love, they did not marry out of love, and they seem to have never really been in love. Again, both admit as much in conversations with the MC. That's why they are both so casual and nonchalant about it ending.

 

[Krytax123]

Zeke is cheating, on Keyla. There's no question about it, and no maybes. She cheated in the past, he's cheating now. That's an even wash. If dating Julia, you come across Zeke on a double date that is NOT Keyla and he essentially admits to cheating.

Neither Keyla nor Zeke cheating doomed the marriage. And both Zeke and Keyla admit that in the story... it was already doomed before it even started due to both having poor reasons to get married. They were not together out of love, they did not marry out of love, and they seem to have never really been in love. Again, both admit as much in conversations with the MC. That's why they are both so casual and nonchalant about it ending.

Im talking about their college days and wheter Zeke cheated at this time already. Zeke cheating nowadays doesnt really matter anymore anyway lol and the mc being judgemental about it is really really strange behavior considering that he fucked zeke's girlfriend regularly in the past lol.

Zeke cheating nowadays doesnt excuse the mcs behavior and even zeke cheating back than already wouldnt excuse it.

Nothing about this is okay, either he should have pressured keyla to come clean to zeke or should have come clean himself/together OR AT LEAST END THE FUCKING FRIENDSHIP

The mc behaved like a snake

 

[Dessolos]

I forget didn't Keyla or someone else say they knew Zeke was cheating on Keyla even during college. I forget exactly but I recall it was enough that the MC sleeping with Keyla when she was in a relationship with Zeke didn't bother me anymore.

 

[Maviarab]

The mc behaved like a snake

And no one disputes that. What people dispute and get pissed at is all the godamn Keyla hate when in reality, the MC is just as bad. No one hates him though as he is us

 

[cooldevo]

I forget didn't Keyla or someone else say they knew Zeke was cheating on Keyla even during college. I forget exactly but I recall it was enough that the MC sleeping with Keyla when she was in a relationship with Zeke didn't bother me anymore.

Right! It was one of Keyla's friends. I forget the name.. Sarah? Keyla was staying at her place while they moved the furniture and sold the house.

Edit: (added screenshot below) Yeah Zeke was apparently shagging multiple sorority girls while dating/engaged to Keyla. Naughty him. Can we all hate him now too then?

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[Krytax123]

And no one disputes that. What people dispute and get pissed at is all the godamn Keyla hate when in reality, the MC is just as bad. No one hates him though as he is us

Well yeah i have way more empathy for what keyla did compared to the role the mc played in all of this. But as far as im aware i was mostly ranting about the mc and not keyla

 

[SlowGoesSlow]

And no one disputes that. What people dispute and get pissed at is all the godamn Keyla hate when in reality, the MC is just as bad. No one hates him though as he is us

I dislike the MC during that period too. Fuck that guy.
However, thankfully he can be improved later on, maybe Keyla can as well there's room for that. Zeke still sucks since he heavily cheated in the past and did so all the way until they split. So it's harder to be supportive of him.

 

[cooldevo]

I dislike the MC during that period too. Fuck that guy.
However, thankfully he can be improved later on, maybe Keyla can as well there's room for that. Zeke still sucks since he heavily cheated in the past and did so all the way until they split. So it's harder to be supportive of him.

That's the same premise I try to take into any of these games where the LI/MC is broken, has made bad decisions, been misunderstood, or just a general DIK (pun intended).

Keyla will have the chance for a redemption arc in my books. Kim will have a chance at hers, and assuming it's actually something I can buy into it may be let pass. Would require a lot more information about her father/family though, and whether he fear was justified. But then even so, how will she keep the MC safe this time, but couldn't before? I presume the father will find out about him again, like the first one if he's really as dangerous and powerful as Kim says he is.

Same with Zeke. Until he fesses up about what made him so desperate to propose to someone he seemingly never loved, he's going to be a lousy guy in my books.

 

[SlowGoesSlow]

That's the same premise I try to take into any of these games where the LI/MC is broken, has made bad decisions, been misunderstood, or just a general DIK (pun intended).

Keyla will have the chance for a redemption arc in my books. Kim will have a chance at hers, and assuming it's actually something I can buy into it may be let pass. Would require a lot more information about her father/family though, and whether he fear was justified. But then even so, how will she keep the MC safe this time, but couldn't before? I presume the father will find out about him again, like the first one if he's really as dangerous and powerful as Kim says he is.

Same with Zeke. Until he fesses up about what made him so desperate to propose to someone he seemingly never loved, he's going to be a lousy guy in my books.

I like that Chaq's made all his characters flawed so far since it fits with the general story of growth. It'll be neat to see how people's character opinions shift as the game goes on.

 

[Kuokaman]

This would be a great game but why can't I break up with Julia after I kissed Michelle?

 

[cooldevo]

This would be a great game but why can't I break up with Julia after I kissed Michelle?

I don't believe, or have seen a way, to end a path once it's started. The only fix if you want dedicated paths is keep your playthrough separate and don't flirt/date other LIs. There are some interactions if you are dating multiple LIs, but as it's not a harem game you will probably have to choose at one point, either on your own or in a bad way as part of the story.

Aside from that you can change the variables.

If you have Console or URM access, set "julia_route" to "False". There are two variables for *most* characters:

• <li-name>_route - True/False if you are on their path.
• <li-name>_affection - How many affection points they have towards MC.

Zeke, for example, has 'zeke_affection' variable, but no 'zeke_route' variable.

Alessa, Candace, Julia, Keyla, Kim, Kimmy, Michelle, Olivia, and Vera all have both Affection and Route variables.
Cynthia and Riley have route variables, but no affection variables.

Keep in mind that changing variables can break things unless you are thorough. Julia has 9 story variables based on the date and the park date that may also need to be changed. And there could be more interlinked ones. As of current chapter, most filtering is set on if you are on a _route or not, but at some point in time he may check for other variables being set or not.

 

[risky0]

I don't hate Kayle, she's just an idiot and I don't like idiots.

Mc kept his promise and waited for her to come back...
Kayle moved on and became lovers with Zeke...
Still in love with Mc, Kayle pretended to accept his marriage proposal just so Zeke wouldn't be in a difficult situation...
When she saw Mc hanging out with Kim, she married a man she didn't love to forget Mc...

These are the ones I remember. I'm too lazy to download the game and play it again just to count the stupidities.

Other than that, yes Mc is not a clean man, but Mc is the one who put an end to this cheating. Like Keyla, instead of continuing as if this situation is normal, he realizes his mistake and puts an end to this disgusting situation.

I don't like Keyla. No, worse than that, I hate her and Mc is like an angel. What are you going to do, crucify me?
And I'm in love with Kim, she'll be the perfect wife.

 

[Maviarab]

I don't hate Kayle, she's just an idiot and I don't like idiots.

Maybe get her name right before calling people idi...well..you get what I mean

 

[risky0]

Maybe get her name right before calling people idi...well..you get what I mean

 

[diolo]

The project actually does a lot of things right ... the graphics are good ... the characters are good ... the story is good ... the sex scenes are ... medium well expandable .... the only thing i don't find so good about the game ... and I really hate to say this ... there are too many women .... that sounds a bit illogical now but i'm overwhelmed by the amount of female characters the developer throws in front of me ... half of them would still have been enough .... somehow after a while you can't keep up anymore ... too bad ... but it was worth a download

 

[BTWZ1]

The project actually does a lot of things right ... the graphics are good ... the characters are good ... the story is good ... the sex scenes are ... medium well expandable .... the only thing i don't find so good about the game ... and I really hate to say this ... there are too many women .... that sounds a bit illogical now but i'm overwhelmed by the amount of female characters the developer throws in front of me ... half of them would still have been enough .... somehow after a while you can't keep up anymore ... too bad ... but it was worth a download

There are too few periods in the text. The following comment should be written only with periods.

 

[diolo]

if you don't understand something, that doesn't automatically mean it's wrong ... it just means you don't understand it .... ;-) ... the periods stand for a pause for thought ... that's called a stylistic device ... you can know ... but you don't have to ... ;-)

 

[BTWZ1]

if you don't understand something, that doesn't automatically mean it's wrong ... it just means you don't understand it .... ;-) ... the periods stand for a pause for thought ... that's called a stylistic device ... you can know ... but you don't have to ... ;-)

Do you talk to your friends in the same way? Do you pause a little after each sentence? And that's not a stylistic device. It looks like you have a speech problem, sir, and you need to see a speech therapist.

 

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