VN Ren'Py Yesterday's Crossroads [Ch.3 v0.4.1a] [CHAQUINN0]

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Chapter 4 - Exclusive Preview #5


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Hell yeah, if this 3some does happen damn it will be worth the wait unless they are simply teasing and changing clothes in front of each other after getting them wet in the rain...it will be quite a dud.
 

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This is not a Harem game, you will have to pick at some point.
But there was "optional harem" planned. Did it change at some point?
I can understand some branching but Im not sure its the best idea if you have so many great LIs. :)


BTW Kim's return - is there option for some kind of sweet revenge regarding Kim? For example to go on a date and bang her roughly and then dump her?

Note: I dont really hate her (I dont know her that much yet) but I think that its fair to have similar option. If she left you like an afterthought, you should have option to show her its not ok.
 

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But there was "optional harem" planned. Did it change at some point?
I can understand some branching but Im not sure its the best idea if you have so many great LIs. :)
there was no harem planned, optional or not. At most a throuple relation, or an LI that is more tolerant with you playing the field a bit.
 

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But there was "optional harem" planned. Did it change at some point?
I can understand some branching but Im not sure its the best idea if you have so many great LIs. :)


BTW Kim's return - is there option for some kind of sweet revenge regarding Kim? For example to go on a date and bang her roughly and then dump her?

Note: I dont really hate her (I dont know her that much yet) but I think that its fair to have similar option. If she left you like an afterthought, you should have option to show her its not ok.
from what I understand I think the dev miss understood the harem tag at first and used it for a throuple I forget if that was this game or another so I might be wrong but either way no harem
 
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It took me a while, but I finally replayed this game.

Great job on the slightly reworked prologue; it more or less fixes all issues I had with it.

In general, the quality of the game increases vastly from Chapter 1 to Chapter 3. The first chapter feels more like a highlight reel than a flowing story with setup and payoff. We jump from scene to scene without any context or framing about what's happening or when/where we are.
For instance, if you don't ask Julia out on a date, then you could think that the MC's car trouble happens on the same day she visits his new office. If you do ask her out, then you'll realize there's an entire weekend between the scene at his new office and his car breaking down.

Chapters 2 and 3 are more intuitive in that regard, though the flow of time is still difficult to follow. The fast pacing also forces us to assume too much about what's happening off-screen. Do I assume that the MC sleeps with Julia every day, or do I only go off what the game shows and tells me?
This isn't helped by the game lacking any in-game exposition about how it treats relationships and not even informing the player if the MC is looking for casual hookups or an LTR after his year of grieving the relationship with Kim.

The result was that I suddenly found myself in a relationship with both Julia and Kimberly with no way out. If you kiss Julia, their relationship goes full steam ahead, and the same goes when taking Kimberly up on her casual offer. In my case, I didn't ask Julia out at the office, hooked up with Kimberly, and then kissed Julia at the park. I hoped I would be able to break things off with Kimberly since it was just a casual encounter, but this option never materialized.
I think many new players will fall into this trap and will grow frustrated, even if they're not expecting a harem game. Being forced to cheat on an LI because you didn't know the game treats every relationship as a done deal with no way out isn't to everyone's liking. It doesn't help that Julia is front and center during Chapter 1 either. While we meet several potential LIs, Julia is the only one available, with Kimberly coming across as a casual lay for old times' sake.

Then we have the soap opera that is the game's timeline:
  • Keyla leaves when the MC is 14-ish (3 years in Okinawa + time in Buffalo).
  • MC eventually gets in a relationship with Alessa until it's time to leave for college.
    (Though those '10 years' comments don't match, since these usually reference the end of something, not the beginning, making it 7 years.)
  • Zeke goes to Buffalo a few months before college.
  • Keyla ends up in Buffalo as well, and they hook up.
  • Zeke and Keyla come back together to attend college.
  • Keyla meets the MC again, and they start fucking behind Zeke's back.
  • The MC also keeps in touch with Alessa; she still considers them in a relationship.
  • Alessa's parents divorce, she destroys her phone, and she gives up on everyone, including the MC.
  • Some months later his mother and father move. Michelle kept in touch with his dad.
  • Somewhere in between all of this, the MC is fucking Kimberly as well.
  • The MC is still fucking Keyla but gets tired of going behind Zeke's back. She doesn't agree because she doesn't want to destroy the friendship between Zeke and the MC.
  • Kimberly drops out in pursuit of an acting career. They keep in touch for a bit.
  • Keyla and the MC stop fucking for a while.
  • His father dies somewhere during his 2nd (?) year.
  • Kim and the MC hit it off.
  • Zeke fucks the entire cheerleader squad.
  • Keyla changes her mind about destroying the friendship of Zeke and the MC and decides to tell him everything. She accidentally agrees to marry him instead. Accident or not, they wait until after graduation to tie the knot. Keyla settled.
  • When the prologue starts, the MC remarks that he's right out of college. However, from context, it's clear he graduated about two years ago.
    (He's 25 when he meets Kimberly again.)
  • At least 6 months after Kim left, the MC changed his phone number.
  • Assuming the MC was in college for 4 years and knew Kim for 6 years when she leaves, they've been together for 4 years. He's 25 when he meets Kimberly on the train again.
The biggest issue with this timeline is Zeke. How come he knew Alessa but didn't know Keyla? How come this horndog never sent the MC, his best friend, a picture of the girl he was fucking? Why was Keyla so against coming between the MC and Zeke but then suddenly wanted to go scorched earth?
Take Zeke out of the picture, and all of this becomes much more palatable. Then we'd have an MC who's too hung up on Alessa to give Keyla the time of day. Who gets hit by a whammy of losing Alessa and his father shortly after, and Kim is there to pick up the pieces. This is where Zeke could come in as a distraction to Keyla; she could still settle for him, maybe thanks to Zeke and the MC becoming great friends during college. Though, honestly, I have no idea why the MC is friends with him at all.

I'm not opposed to dumb teenagers doing dumb things, like fucking your best friend's girlfriend. It happens to the best of us. What bothers me more is that, even as adults, they (mostly Keyla) are still looking for excuses and blame. At a certain point, this sequence of events becomes uncanny as well. I can believe that Keyla cheated on Zeke, I can believe that the MC went along with it despite his friendship, and I can believe that Keyla eventually wanted to come clean. But accepting the proposal of someone she clearly didn't love or respect, and the MC calling it her being gaslit by Zeke into accepting... That's a bit much.

As the game progresses, off-screen time becomes larger. At the end of Chapter 3, it's the end of December already. If you kissed Julia, you've now been in a relationship with her for 3-4 months, but you don't really notice it. There's some lip service to seeing each other every morning, but the MC gets to decide who he spends Christmas with. The MC also remains very tight-lipped about his personal life, even with LIs who he turned down. The time they spend together becomes performative, where he can turn into a motivational poster spouting some platitudes to make them feel better. It never gets personal. He doesn't share something that happened to him unless the person specifically asks about it (like his father's death).

Finally, Cynthia. Why is she even in the game?
In a conversation with Dina at the start of Chapter 1, she's set up as the MC's FWB, but her first and only encounter is in Chapter 2. Narratively, she serves no purpose, and neither does the MC having an FWB. No matter your relationship status, if you ask her out, you'll fuck. There's not even a way to inform her about getting into a relationship and remaining friends.


And now for some stuff I really enjoyed:
  • Poses and expressions are generally very well done.
    The shoulder shrug is a bit overused when people speak, but I'd rather have that than a single render for an entire conversation.
  • Similarly, backgrounds move during conversations and make the world feel alive. Great job!
  • Loved the render in the cold with the visible breath.
  • The pathing in itself is great. I enjoy that the game isn't a harem game and that actions have consequences.
    I do lament the absence of a tutorial explaining how the game treats relationships and that a kiss automatically leads to a commitment. This can easily be solved by having Kim explain it at the very start of the game and would help players manage their expectations when they're suddenly locked out of content due to being in a relationship already. Color-coding choices to highlight their importance would be a bonus.
  • Some conversations and subplots are really well written. For instance, I like how Alessa is introduced and how Michelle motivates her silence. This entire setup made me see Michelle as someone who lost so much that she couldn't bear losing someone else.
  • Almost all aspects of the game improved as development went along. I respect this.
 

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Finally, Cynthia. Why is she even in the game?
In a conversation with Dina at the start of Chapter 1, she's set up as the MC's FWB, but her first and only encounter is in Chapter 2. Narratively, she serves no purpose, and neither does the MC having an FWB. No matter your relationship status, if you ask her out, you'll fuck. There's not even a way to inform her about getting into a relationship and remaining friends.
I didn't really read your post was just skimming through parts of it but I believe Cynthia is bugged and there is a bug fix in the thread otherwise won't be applied till the update , unless im mistaken. Not that a bug fix if you have sex with her or not will fix the issue you have with her character just felt it was worth mentioning.
 
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I didn't really read your post was just skimming through parts of it but I believe Cynthia is bugged and there is a bug fix in the thread otherwise won't be applied till the update , unless im mistaken. Not that a bug fix if you have sex with her or not will fix the issue you have with her character just felt it was worth mentioning.
I didn't notice a bug with her content, personally, unless the patch is a narrative fix. She has one scene in the gallery, and I witnessed it.
Maybe there's some content involving her that gets fixed, or perhaps she's less catty toward Olivia if the MC didn't bang her... No idea. :ROFLMAO:

My main issue with her is that she serves no real purpose. We're saddled with her as an FWB at the start of the game but otherwise can't really have a meaningful interaction. With how often the MC visits the hospital, I would expect them to bump into each other a lot more.
 

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I didn't notice a bug with her content, personally, unless the patch is a narrative fix. She has one scene in the gallery, and I witnessed it.
Maybe there's some content involving her that gets fixed, or perhaps she's less catty toward Olivia if the MC didn't bang her... No idea. :ROFLMAO:
from my understanding the fix just prevents you having a forced sex scene if you said no or yes and the bit I quoted that what I assumed you encountered. At least I recall reading previous complaints about that in the past. tho I don't even remember her being FWB I wonder if that is a new change or something I forgot as I haven't played the rework parts yet. Last I played I recall just having 1 conversation with her and an option to ask her out or not. I think someone even tries to push the MC to ask her out too.
 
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from my understanding the fix just prevents you having a forced sex scene if you said no or yes and the bit I quoted that what I assumed you encountered. At least I recall reading previous complaints about that in the past. tho I don't even remember her being FWB I wonder if that is a new change or something I forgot as I haven't played the rework parts yet. Last I played I recall just having 1 conversation with her and an option to ask her out or not. I think someone even tries to push the MC to ask her out too.
You're probably remembering this convo:
Mom "I heard you and Cynthia have been "hanging out"."​
MC "Did she tell you that?"​
Mom "She seems to like you."​
MC "She's good."​
MC "But she doesn't want anything else, if that's what you're thinking, except to have some fun."​
Mom "Spare me the details now, will you?"​
MC "Haha!"​
MC "She doesn't want anything serious, that's what I mean."​
Mom "Sure, sure..."​
Mom "She is right, she's too young for any kind of entanglement."​

It's good to know there's an actual bug involving her, though. I'll hold off on doing new per-LI playthroughs until the update drops.
 

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Just finished the game and here's how i would rate the girls.

S TIER: Olivia - Basically drama free, may take a turn for the worse depending on how she handles her fathers death.
A TIER: Michelle and Alessa (without vera) - both are fantastic and sucks you cant throuple both sisters.
B TIER: Kimberly, Julia and Candice - Fine choices just a bit boring.
C Tier: Alyssa + Vera (pretty much a sub/dom relationship that i have no interest in)

F TIER: Kim and Keyla - you reap what you sow.

Keyla is actually the hottest girl in the game but boy she is such a trash ass character.
 
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Just finished the game and here's how i would rate the girls.

S TIER: Olivia - Basically drama free, may take a turn for the worse depending on how she handles her fathers death.
A TIER: Michelle and Alessa (without vera) - both are fantastic and sucks you cant throuple both sisters.
B TIER: Kimberly, Julia and Candice - Fine choices just a bit boring.
C Tier: Alyssa + Vera (pretty much a sub/dom relationship that i have no interest in)

F TIER: Kim and Keyla - you reap what you sow.
Yeah, I agree with that ranking. I'd put Julia and Candice in C tier myself.
Also why I'd love to break off relationships when we get to know other LIs better. Julia is B/C and at the forefront in the early game. If you kiss, you're stuck with her.
 

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Just finished the game and here's how i would rate the girls.

S TIER: Olivia - Basically drama free, may take a turn for the worse depending on how she handles her fathers death.
A TIER: Michelle and Alessa (without vera) - both are fantastic and sucks you cant throuple both sisters.
B TIER: Kimberly, Julia and Candice - Fine choices just a bit boring.
C Tier: Alyssa + Vera (pretty much a sub/dom relationship that i have no interest in)

F TIER: Kim and Keyla - you reap what you sow.

Keyla is actually the hottest girl in the game but boy she is such a trash ass character.
I would switch Michelle and Olivia
 

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Just finished the game and here's how i would rate the girls.

S TIER: Olivia - Basically drama free, may take a turn for the worse depending on how she handles her fathers death.
A TIER: Michelle and Alessa (without vera) - both are fantastic and sucks you cant throuple both sisters.
B TIER: Kimberly, Julia and Candice - Fine choices just a bit boring.
C Tier: Alyssa + Vera (pretty much a sub/dom relationship that i have no interest in)

F TIER: Kim and Keyla - you reap what you sow.

Keyla is actually the hottest girl in the game but boy she is such a trash ass character.
LOL Keyla is definitely not the hottest girl in the game. Just say her looks are ur type
 

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LOL Keyla is definitely not the hottest girl in the game. Just say her looks are ur type
can also say that about whoever you like too, looks are subjective.

Just finished the game and here's how i would rate the girls.

S TIER: Olivia - Basically drama free, may take a turn for the worse depending on how she handles her fathers death.
A TIER: Michelle and Alessa (without vera) - both are fantastic and sucks you cant throuple both sisters.
B TIER: Kimberly, Julia and Candice - Fine choices just a bit boring.
C Tier: Alyssa + Vera (pretty much a sub/dom relationship that i have no interest in)

F TIER: Kim and Keyla - you reap what you sow.

Keyla is actually the hottest girl in the game but boy she is such a trash ass character.
For me
S Tier - Michelle , Olivia and Julia - While Michelle and Julia are my favorite all 3 of these I would have a hard time if I had to pick just 1
A Tier - Kimberly , Alessa (without vera) - Would be my type in most other games just not here
B Tier - Candice , - I like her alot but im also unsure about her
C Tier - Alyssa + Vera , Keyla ( Last update I somewhat started to change my mind about Keyla before she would be F tier with Kim.
F Tier / Kill it with fire - Kim enough said
 

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can also say that about whoever you like too, looks are subjective.


For me
S Tier - Michelle , Olivia and Julia - While Michelle and Julia are my favorite all 3 of these I would have a hard time if I had to pick just 1
A Tier - Kimberly , Alessa (without vera) - Would be my type in most other games just not here
B Tier - Candice , - I like her alot but im also unsure about her
C Tier - Alyssa + Vera , Keyla ( Last update I somewhat started to change my mind about Keyla before she would be F tier with Kim.
F Tier / Kill it with fire - Kim enough said
Accurate ranking
 

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Just finished the game and here's how i would rate the girls.

S TIER: Olivia - Basically drama free, may take a turn for the worse depending on how she handles her fathers death.
A TIER: Michelle and Alessa (without vera) - both are fantastic and sucks you cant throuple both sisters.
B TIER: Kimberly, Julia and Candice - Fine choices just a bit boring.
C Tier: Alyssa + Vera (pretty much a sub/dom relationship that i have no interest in)

F TIER: Kim and Keyla - you reap what you sow.

Keyla is actually the hottest girl in the game but boy she is such a trash ass character.
can also say that about whoever you like too, looks are subjective.


For me
S Tier - Michelle , Olivia and Julia - While Michelle and Julia are my favorite all 3 of these I would have a hard time if I had to pick just 1
A Tier - Kimberly , Alessa (without vera) - Would be my type in most other games just not here
B Tier - Candice , - I like her alot but im also unsure about her
C Tier - Alyssa + Vera , Keyla ( Last update I somewhat started to change my mind about Keyla before she would be F tier with Kim.
F Tier / Kill it with fire - Kim enough said
Okay, I'll give my version of Malicre's ranking too.

S Tier - Julia. I love her model with how she always looks a bit sad, that really plays on my inner 'desire to protect'. Also, tits. She's a bit clingy, but I actually like it. I really hope her ex fails his revenge. If all goes smoothly, she'll soon join my All-AVN girl Top-10.
A Tier - Kimberly. Not my kinda gal actually, but her chemistry with the MC is simply awesome.
B Tier - Candace and Michelle. Very solid options, but I'm not sure if a boyfriend is really what Michelle needs in her life now, and Candace is a bit secondary to Julia (better to parade her around Kim tho). Still, they're good, and I'd definitely pick them in a game without Julia or Kimberly.
C Tier - Alessa without Vera, Olivia. Not bad, but I'm just not interested. Olivia had my interest early, but I got bored with her art exhibition. Alessa alone kinda feels like stealing her from Vera, and her history with the MC is just less interesting than any of his other exes and even her own sister.
F Tier - Alessa with Vera, Kim, Keyla. I don't believe in polyamory, Kim can go screw herself, and Keyla is the only girl I don't feel the MC having any interest in at the present day.
 

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Okay, I'll give my version of Malicre's ranking too.

S Tier - Julia. I love her model with how she always looks a bit sad, that really plays on my inner 'desire to protect'. Also, tits. She's a bit clingy, but I actually like it. I really hope her ex fails his revenge. If all goes smoothly, she'll soon join my All-AVN girl Top-10.
A Tier - Kimberly. Not my kinda gal actually, but her chemistry with the MC is simply awesome.
B Tier - Candace and Michelle. Very solid options, but I'm not sure if a boyfriend is really what Michelle needs in her life now, and Candace is a bit secondary to Julia (better to parade her around Kim tho). Still, they're good, and I'd definitely pick them in a game without Julia or Kimberly.
C Tier - Alessa without Vera, Olivia. Not bad, but I'm just not interested. Olivia had my interest early, but I got bored with her art exhibition. Alessa alone kinda feels like stealing her from Vera, and her history with the MC is just less interesting than any of his other exes and even her own sister.
F Tier - Alessa with Vera, Kim, Keyla. I don't believe in polyamory, Kim can go screw herself, and Keyla is the only girl I don't feel the MC having any interest in at the present day.
only point id argue only because we haven't seen how it happens yet but then again might not matter for you. the dev did say Alessa would break up naturally with Vera so it wouldn't feel like stealing her. But yeah until it happens who knows it could very much still feel like that. I think it depends how the break up happens for me cause if it's too messy because of the MC I probably wouldn't enjoy that path initially as much
 
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