Manoftheworld

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Ruby is only and main canon. Emma and Anna are "secondary" main characters. The others are just completely side characters for variety. You can just somehow avoid them all. Only Ruby doesn't.
I really don't like that in games, canon is what you want it to be is what separates games from movies and other forms of storytelling. I like games like Shale Hill Secrets that gave me the chance to choose my partner regardless of the story, I can respect that approach.
 

Walter Victor

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now I'm forced to drop a game that had potential.
The game not only has potential, it also has fulfilled that potential and promises more to come... just not for you.

Sorry, but it happens. No game can please everyone. I'm sure there are games out there that you can enjoy. Good luck, I'm sure you'll find them. You can always replay Shale Hill Secrets.
 

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I really don't like that in games, canon is what you want it to be is what separates games from movies and other forms of storytelling. I like games like Shale Hill Secrets that gave me the chance to choose my partner regardless of the story, I can respect that approach.
Unfortunately, I can't help you with that, the game gives a lot of options and variants of relationships. It's just that MC and Ruby are the focus of this story.
 
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Manoftheworld

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The game not only has potential, it also has fulfilled that potential and promises more to come... just not for you.

Sorry, but it happens. No game can please everyone. I'm sure there are games out there that you can enjoy. Good luck, I'm sure you'll find them. You can always replay Shale Hill Secrets.
That's totally fine, there's also room for improvement in any game, just from a developer's standpoint freedom is the key to enjoyment, I thought a bit more freedom would make this game even better than what it is, for some it's perfectly fine as it is, for me it was disappointing. I think the dev, if he ever plans to make another project can do even better.
 

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That's totally fine, there's also room for improvement in any game, just from a developer's standpoint freedom is the key to enjoyment, I thought a bit more freedom would make this game even better than what it is, for some it's perfectly fine as it is, for me it was disappointing. I think the dev, if he ever plans to make another project can do even better.
He is a co-worker on another project for long time.

But I just can't agree with you. If all games were equally free, they would all be the same in the end.
Here, the basic premise is that a guy in an outer body is trying to have a relationship with the sister of this body. The side story is that the father's soul in another body sleeps with his daughter. Just like incest through a condom. It's an incest game, so it probably won't be primarily aimed at foreign girls.
 
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That's totally fine, there's also room for improvement in any game, just from a developer's standpoint freedom is the key to enjoyment, I thought a bit more freedom would make this game even better than what it is, for some it's perfectly fine as it is, for me it was disappointing. I think the dev, if he ever plans to make another project can do even better.
A problem with giving to much "freedom" in a game is the huge increase of developement time and content as the game moves on. Every branching kind of multiplies the needed dialogues and renders. And quite often the same who demanded such game choices started to complain afterwards for the tiny game updates on their specific routes.
 

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He is a co-worker on another project for long time.

But I just can't agree with you. If all games were equally free, they would all be the same in the end.
Here, the basic premise is that a guy in an outer body is trying to have a relationship with the sister of this body. The side story is that the father's soul in another body sleeps with his daughter. Just like incest through a condom. It's an incest game, so it probably won't be primarily aimed at foreign girls.
Freedom is the same for every game, but the story is different, so I have to disagree that every game would be the same, the story is what the dev wishes it to be, but the player should be free within the context of the story. I like the idea of "optional" elements in regards to these type of games so that things aren't forced. Again, I just think this game has more potential regarding the context of it's story.
 

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Freedom is the same for every game, but the story is different, so I have to disagree that every game would be the same, the story is what the dev wishes it to be, but the player should be free within the context of the story. I like the idea of "optional" elements in regards to these type of games so that things aren't forced. Again, I just think this game has more potential regarding the context of it's story.
But in this case the dev wants the story to be about MC sleeping with his family. Especially with his sister. So it practically fulfills your idea, it just differs in how the sister should look.
 
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Manoftheworld

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But in this case the dev wants the story to be about MC sleeping with his family. Especially with his sister. So it practically fulfills your idea, it just differs in how the sister should look.
Variety is not freedom. My idea was freedom within the context of the story, and the context of this specific story ventures outside the scope of the family, therefore should 1.either not be forced incest or 2. be optional non incest. Majority of the interactable characters are not family membersm but the game is a family game. The problem for me in this specific game is that I for example reject Ruby every time and accept Grace every time, but none of my decisions matter because the MC loves Ruby over Grace, just because Ruby is a main character, not because I so wanted, why am I given freedom of choice in that case if the result is the same. It makes this look like a kinetic novel in disguse of a visual novel. And regarding looks it only would make the game more appealing to certain people and less appealing to others, it does not solve the problem of the game which is 90% of the choices don't matter.
 
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