Avaron1974
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That was the first assault, wasn't their first meeting though.
Daniel had spent a long time, since she transferred into that school, trying to get in her panties.
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Daniel had spent a long time, since she transferred into that school, trying to get in her panties.
This might not have been the first time they met, but it's definitely the first time he displayed forceful/aggressive sexual intent.
Stockholm Syndrome would apply only when the victim views an assailant favorably after being in their presence for a while. Daniel was never an assailant before.
Marie never viewed Daniel as a rapist because his actions never went too far, It makes no sense for her to be calm and forgiving when suddenly he breaks all boundaries to violently take what was denied to him for so long.
It makes zero sense for her to suddenly accept his actions and then behave like a true victim afterwards. The writer/creator was trying too hard to make Marie look like this benevolent/forgiving soul, just to later show how she was the opposite in how she handled the aftermath. (Ritual of Ash)
Making a character inconsistent in their behavior/beliefs is about the worst thing a writer can do.
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Don't be like that.
Unless you write a book that is proof read from start to finish restructured and edited, there will always be inconsistencies. Literally all avns that get written and released incrementally suffer from this.Zero End is good as it is.
Dark Silence
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Yeah, tried those. Seems to have worked.
However, after completeing this twice(actually 3 if you count the Chloe end, which isn't an end really), different choices/different gods/different girls, this game....
Was this the last ep? Has to be. Unless you're just going to add more relationship paths and or different endings. Also, is there ANY happy endings for the MC in this?
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I can really see the parallels between Mao and Alice
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Dark Silence
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Just the first half of the game. There's a considerable amount of content left.
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Not sure what you meanDon't be like that.
Zero End is good as it is.
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So, the MC doesn't die taking the choice to focus on Alice? I was already upset with that one and not sure what actually happened with the 'Become the monster' choice. I just need to know whether or not the MC will have a happy ending.
What we need is a real WT.
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That's a side ending. The story will continue down the main path.
As for happy endings, that's the point of facing adversity, isn't it? But it depends on what you would consider a happy ending. From my point of view, yes.
Because they've been discussing the inconsistencies. I believe that some of it is inevitable.
Some misunderstanding is also inevitable. What kind of argument is that?
I didn't make any argument. I actually said: "I believe it's inevitable", which implies an opinion. You want to hear my argument? I have read enough books, manga, avns, early access, etc. and it's always the same. A good book where the finished story is being edited and restructured (like chapter 1 can still change) before it's finished ultimately will always have higher potential than a weekly release for example.
All avn's here are being developed incrementally with updates. Early chapters rarely change and I'm pretty sure that none of em have a finished script. The authors will write it when they get there. That usually leads to inconsistencies, because the authors ideas about the book/game/avn will change over time as they write the story and their ideas become more clear. It's inevitable.
I think it's a pretty good argument. Given that drawback I think Zero End is doing pretty good. One of my favorites here. Actually... there are very few examples of games with good stories here, but they do exist.
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Star Wars for example, the very first one (A new Hope), was edited multiple times and reordered to make more sense and be more exciting after it was supposedly finished. The original cut is supposedly kinda boring.
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Speaking of the game's soundtrack, I went to check the iamlamprey songs that were featured in Zero End and found out all of his songs were deleted from his Spotify, Soundcloud and Bandcamp accounts. This was quite the bummer.
Most of his songs have been reuploaded on Youtube by a fan, Xen Music Archive. I was bummed as well when he went away. I found him because of Zero End and Move the Chains, the man makes (or made) bangers. He also had a website where he sold some software for guitar players, but that is also empty now, but the captions on his web page state "It sinks beneath the surface, waiting. We will be here again." So there's hope he'll come back with his catalogue, probably remastered or something.
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Hmm, why didnt the world end if you go for the bar girl?
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Good question, another one is what did Caleb see at the final scene of that ending that changed his expression.