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FOW? like the studio FOW ? they done with subverse ?

This, alongside the trailer, was posted. Their 10 year anniversary announcement. TLDR is: They are still working on subverse and will continue working on it.
Alongside that, they are securing funding for the related movies. Considering the price FOW is asking (About 70-98K per movie), it's going to take a while.
 

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This, alongside the trailer, was posted. Their 10 year anniversary announcement. TLDR is: They are still working on subverse and will continue working on it.
Alongside that, they are securing funding for the related movies. Considering the price FOW is asking (About 70-98K per movie), it's going to take a while.
well.. it've alway been like that, they funding for the anim, work on multiple one at the same time, ( still got priority which one release first tho) it take a long time, but their shit is top notch, it is how we reach that 70~100k funding that is the problem lmao.
But yeah... this is fucking huge... 2024 just became a little bit better
 
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well.. it've alway been like that, they funding for the anim, work on multiple one at the same time, ( still got priority which one release first tho) it take a long time, but their shit is top notch, it is how we reach that 70~100k funding that is the problem lmao.
But yeah... this is fucking huge... 2024 just became a little bit better
Funny enough, the price seems to be huge but they earned about 15-20K a month on patreon during the glory days.
It's huge yet at the same time, it isn't considering none of the projects have scraped the 2% funding collected. FOW's main focus will be their game.
 

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On one hand it's a shame he is gonna stop doing horses and such.

On the other I respect his honesty to just out and say "I wanna stop because I am uncomfortable, and I understand if my customers and fans want to leave now that I won't be making more of that content."
 
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On one hand it's a shame he is gonna stop doing horses and such.

On the other I respect his honesty to just out and say "I wanna stop because I am uncomfortable, and I understand if my customers and fans want to leave now that I won't be making more of that content."
It sucks because he was easily one of the best, in terms of quality, consistency and time.

Not many could match or exceed him in one of these catergories and virtually no one could beat him if you put all three together.

Pog benis: =quality, +consistency, -time
Noname: =quality, -consistency, +time
Blueberg: -quality, +consistency, +time
Jackerman: =quality, +consistency, -time
Studio fow ++quality, -consistency, --time


Zmsfm was the bloody goldilocks of beast animations. Which he achieved through nearly a decade of work from the time of his early work like MayaXButt stallion all the way to his Magum Opus TifaXhorse. It was a core pillar of his work profile, even it it had admittedly lessened.

At the very least he'll still be doing monster animations, but it's a damn shame to lose him.:confused:
 

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Pog benis: =quality, +consistency, -time
A hot take perhaps but I'd argue Pog Benis beats ZM in terms of quality. His animations are significantly better when it comes to visuals. Pog benis does render in cycles + he has this 500$ dog model from turbosquid. To balance that, he gets beaten by sheer amount of content ZM puts out per month. That isn't even his final form either. If he cut the variants, he could maybe squeeze in 2-3 more animations per month.
Only person I think matches his speed + quality is noname.

Another point would be that Tifa x Horse is decent. Sure, sure, it's up to a personal opinion but Tifa x Horse movie shows how far he's come from years back to now. From the terms of quality up to scene setups.
I think his defining beast animation that to this day people keep constantly mentioning is the first Lara and horse.
 

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It sucks because he was easily one of the best, in terms of quality, consistency and time.

Not many could match or exceed him in one of these catergories and virtually no one could beat him if you put all three together.

Pog benis: =quality, +consistency, -time
Noname: =quality, -consistency, +time
Blueberg: -quality, +consistency, +time
Jackerman: =quality, +consistency, -time
Studio fow ++quality, -consistency, --time


Zmsfm was the bloody goldilocks of beast animations. Which he achieved through nearly a decade of work from the time of his early work like MayaXButt stallion all the way to his Magum Opus TifaXhorse. It was a core pillar of his work profile, even it it had admittedly lessened.

At the very least he'll still be doing monster animations, but it's a damn shame to lose him.:confused:
I havent heard of pogbenis for a while, when was his last release?
 

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A hot take perhaps but I'd argue Pog Benis beats ZM in terms of quality. His animations are significantly better when it comes to visuals. Pog benis does render in cycles + he has this 500$ dog model from turbosquid. To balance that, he gets beaten by sheer amount of content ZM puts out per month. That isn't even his final form either. If he cut the variants, he could maybe squeeze in 2-3 more animations per month.
Only person I think matches his speed + quality is noname.

Another point would be that Tifa x Horse is decent. Sure, sure, it's up to a personal opinion but Tifa x Horse movie shows how far he's come from years back to now. From the terms of quality up to scene setups.
I think his defining beast animation that to this day people keep constantly mentioning is the first Lara and horse.
Fair points all around. In terms of doggy, I'd agree that Pog is a step above. Horse on the other hand... Is squarely in Zm's favour.

Honestly it feels like he's dropping the beast because it's the most taboo of his works and he's likely to do well without it. I feel bit like a dick for undermining his mental health concerns, but it's a little hard for me to believe that to be the only answer for it's discontinuation when he's still potentially fine using fantasy monsters that verge on full feral anyway.

I havent heard of pogbenis for a while, when was his last release?
30/10/22:geek:

He's done a few works since, but none to my knowledge have been properly leaked...
He's still working on new stuff though.
 
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Fair points all around. In terms of doggy, I'd agree that Pog is a step above. Horse on the other hand... Is squarely in Zm's favour.
Absolutely. Few out there can match it. Bartender and Nocure exist but for my tastes they do these ridiculous fits where the character is made out of rubber.
Honestly it feels like he's dropping the beast because it's the most taboo of his works and he's likely to do well without it. I feel bit like a dick for undermining his mental health concerns, but it's a little hard for me to believe that to be the only answer for it's discontinuation when he's still potentially fine using fantasy monsters that verge on full feral anyway.
If it was any other animator, I'd agree but Zmsfm has always been very open with people on how he does things or how he feels about certain content. Pretty sure Kemono has each of the posts detailing his progresses. Combined with fact of him mentioning how his main reason why he's able to pump out so much content is the general enjoyment of it. I'd rather take an artist who does things he enjoys, rather than one who does animations he hates, gets burned out and quits. Losing ZM would be a horrific hit to the community as not many do things he does.
In years of being subbed to ZM, I yet have to see a single "I am burned out/taking a break" message.
I don't doubt his fan count is going to take a hit because of the bestiality discontinuation for sure. Consequences of actions and all that.
It's a damn shame but hey, not much can be done. Fantasy beastlike monsters are there, sure, sure but it isn't really comparable to an actual animal.
He's done a few works since, but none to my knowledge have been properly leaked...
He's still working on new stuff though.
What a terrible decision. How are people going to find his content when they assume he's inactive. It just gives more incentive to people to leak Pog benis' content.
 

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Absolutely. Few out there can match it. Bartender and Nocure exist but for my tastes they do these ridiculous fits where the character is made out of rubber.

If it was any other animator, I'd agree but Zmsfm has always been very open with people on how he does things or how he feels about certain content. Pretty sure Kemono has each of the posts detailing his progresses. Combined with fact of him mentioning how his main reason why he's able to pump out so much content is the general enjoyment of it. I'd rather take an artist who does things he enjoys, rather than one who does animations he hates, gets burned out and quits. Losing ZM would be a horrific hit to the community as not many do things he does.
In years of being subbed to ZM, I yet have to see a single "I am burned out/taking a break" message.
I don't doubt his fan count is going to take a hit because of the bestiality discontinuation for sure. Consequences of actions and all that.
It's a damn shame but hey, not much can be done. Fantasy beastlike monsters are there, sure, sure but it isn't really comparable to an actual animal.

What a terrible decision. How are people going to find his content when they assume he's inactive. It just gives more incentive to people to leak Pog benis' content.
Zmsfm:
I'll admit your account does make me more willingly to give him the benefit of the doubt, and it is FAR better than him just disappearing like others before him (Gob-bluth to name one of many). It just feels like a "hail hydra" moment. *Sigh* Yeah... time for me to move on to the last stage of grief.

Eh, the big cat monster (from Baldur's gate 3?) is pushing it tbh.

Pog benis:
He's recently expressed interest on being more open (to his discord users) about the timeline of his work, but in terms of his wider audience, no real clue.
 
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(Gob-bluth to name one of many). It just feels like a "hail hydra" moment. *Sigh* Yeah... time for me to move on to the last stage of grief.
That's a name I haven't heard in such a long time. I remember him from days of the Tumblr era. After that he just disappeared from face of the earth.

I agree about the BG3 monster but then again, it does have those big tentacles on its back and 6 legs.
 

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That's a name I haven't heard in such a long time. I remember him from days of the Tumblr era. After that he just disappeared from face of the earth.

I agree about the BG3 monster but then again, it does have those big tentacles on its back and 6 legs.
He was around on Twitter. His last post being years ago with a link to his discord (link is dead:cry:)

Now there's a thought, perhaps Zm can be convinced to do another equine animation if its Sleipnir or even a unicorn? All hope isn't lost after all.
 
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He was around on Twitter. His last post being years ago with a link to his discord (link is dead:cry:)

Now there's a thought, perhaps Zm can be convinced to do another equine animation if its Sleipnir or even a unicorn? All hope isn't lost after all.
You can try? :ROFLMAO:
He did give people a poll to decide whether there should be another beast animation. Majority from both sites voted for him to just quit and let the Hermione be last.
I personally know about centaurs being fine. No idea whether that applies to a unicorn. After all, it's just a horse with a horn.
 

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im fine with futa cock, but unicorn will make it too gay
Fine with Futa but worried about da gay? I've got some bad news for ya mate:oops:
Well if it bothers you so much, I'm sure zmsfm could add a couple of flame stickers to the unicorns horn. That should solve your worries

You can try? :ROFLMAO:
He did give people a poll to decide whether there should be another beast animation. Majority from both sites voted for him to just quit and let the Hermione be last.
I personally know about centaurs being fine. No idea whether that applies to a unicorn. After all, it's just a horse with a horn.
The majority probably voted no because they care about zmsfm's well-being. If only those fools were more selfish:cautious:
Half measures like centuars are almost insulting.

Either way, unicorns are still firmly in the realm of fantasy animal/monster. A man can dream...
 

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I was only subbed to him because of his beast content, without it there is no reason to follow him anymore.
Not that matters if i stay on his discord, so i can just leave his server and un-follow him.
I wish him luck for the future.
 

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I was only subbed to him because of his beast content, without it there is no reason to follow him anymore.
Not that matters if i stay on his discord, so i can just leave his server and un-follow him.
I wish him luck for the future.
same thing here man
 

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It sucks because he was easily one of the best, in terms of quality, consistency and time.

Not many could match or exceed him in one of these catergories and virtually no one could beat him if you put all three together.

Pog benis: =quality, +consistency, -time
Hmmm... pog hasn't released anything in over 2 years now dude has given up on public releases.
 
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