Seeing as you decided to take out your frustrations on me while attempting to put words in my mouth I'll clarify things for you. I didn't invade shit. Did or did I not say that I played through both games? Did or did I not also tell people to give the games a try? Please quote me the part where I said Kinky games shouldn't exist. You can't because I didn't say that, nor would I want that. Contrary to what you might think, I'm far from a "Vanilla Fag". I'm well aware of the fact that the scumbag MC is the appeal for certain people. Doesn't mean I have to like him. Sorry I didn't realize I had to like 100% of a game to find enjoyment in it. Please quote me where I said he should be removed, changed, or otherwise rewritten because he's a bad guy. You can't because I didn't fucking say that, nor would I advocate for that. So how about you pull your fucking horns in and relax.
I don't like the MC, "big deal" I also don't want him changed. I only stated the fact that he's a scumbag, or are you denying he's a scumbag? I clarified that for people who may not enjoy him, and who may be dubious about playing the games. You seem to like him so why the fuck would I have to clarify that for you? I don't like all cookie-cutter vanilla MCs just as I don't like cookie-cutter ntr MCs. Yeah, I don't like the main character but I didn't say he was poorly written or generic, he's got some good dialogue in some of the scenes. I did say he was a stereotypical ntr antagonist, perhaps that was a bit short-sighted. However, his motivations may be more unique but he still fucks every woman he wants and doesn't give a shit about their situations, or the consequences. That's not very inventive when compared to other antagonists of the ntr genre, so I believe it was a fair comparison. Again though, I DIDN'T say he should be changed, etc. Nor did I shame anyone if they enjoyed him, correct me if I'm wrong, but all I said in essence was that I didn't like him. Am I or am I not entitled to that view? Or do I have to think the same as you?
I don't plan on campaigning that the Developer curtails his game to appease the detractors. It's his game, he should be free to make it how he sees fit. I don't want to see ntr because I don't like it. But guess what, I'd still play it. I'd just avoid the ntr, or simply ignore the dialogue and enjoy the scene(s). I don't agree with people who try to dictate other people's projects. Or those who complain over and over. I'd be one massive fucking hypocrite if I did, considering some of the other views I have. I, however, didn't do that. I did say I liked the game and encouraged people to try it. I didn't outright say I liked the game, but typically complimenting the art and modelling is a good indicator of enjoying something. I agree that more of the scenes in the second game was consensual, and not fully to my tastes either. I would have welcomed more dark and non-consensual scenes. I'm not against that. I did say that I didn't mind the dark outcomes in the first game (Or rather that I didn't mind the one that I focused on.
I quite enjoyed the glory hole scene with the party girl and if there had been one where the girl was forced into it. I think that would have been hot. Maybe a dancer with a gambling debt? She tried to run and was caught by the loanshark who wanted to see her fucked and bred by some random stranger as punishment for trying to run away. she could have been tied by one leg and hoisted up, basically doing a vertical split so she had to watch herself be bred against her will. The ending could have also been good with Viv saying she's accepted motherhood and loves her kid. Best of both worlds, everybody wins. Or she could have been used as a birthing show to pay back her debt, and forced to relive that hell over and over, bred by random strangers until the loansharks either threw her broken body out or just put her out of her misery. As I said, I'm not against dark outcomes, extreme kinks, or non-consensual scenes. I'm mentally stable enough to separate fantasy from reality.
So why did the Tomboy draw so much anger compared to the other girls? Well, I'll explain it to you.
1: "The Nerd". She was an annoying self-absorbed character. Her scene was fucking great. I also loved it, the scene was hot af and seeing that self-absorbed bitch get bred after the condom broke was awesome. The difference with "The Tomboy" was that she was already unpopular and the only thing that changed was that she became friends with the Queen Bee.
2: "The Queen Bee". She was a bitchy girl who cheated on her bf, who was also self-absorbed. Constantly talking shit about other people, and saying she's the most popular, the best, etc etc. Her bf left her, rightfully so, and she lost all her popularity. it was dark, but I would surmise that most people enjoyed that ending because of the karmic justice of it.
3: "The Punk". Yeah, this one was also pretty bad, she wanted to have a good time and stay safe. The condom wouldn't have made a difference but she was betrayed by her "Friend" and bred regardless. The scene was okay, but it could have been better. Imo she should have been in missionary. After realizing the situation, she could have tried to push Reed off to no avail before being bred against her wishes. In the end, she did have to leave school but outside of that not much changed. I mean her relationship with "The Bimbo" remained rocky, but she was a cunt for betraying her anyways. So that's not a negative.
4: "The Tomboy". To make things easier I'll use bullet points here.
- The Tomboy compared to the Nerd and Queen Bee wasn't a dislikable character. She was dumb and naive.
- Viv said she went back and waited at the showers for a long time (Weeks or Months I can't remember) until her heart was broken and she gave up.
- When her belly started to show she was kicked off her team, bullied at school and ostracized in her town.
- The abuse got so bad she and her family had to leave the town completely.
- She couldn't go back to school and had to take up some crappy job.
Viv said it herself. Reed ruined the girl's life. So gee I wonder why it was such a polarizing ending that drew so much ire. As I said, I didn't mind it because she was an idiot for falling in love with some masked man and letting him knock her up a few hours after meeting him. but hey-ho I guess you chose to ignore what I said.
4: "The Hippie" You used this girl as a comparison to "The Tomboy". I don't know how or why you drew that comparison because the outcomes were almost completely different (Maybe your memory is foggy). Yes both the girls were dumb but the hippie never expected Reed to stick around, and she wanted to be bred as a way of fighting against the government. Her ending wasn't even all that bad. The only negative was that motherhood was more work than she thought. Her life was basically unchanged because she remained homeless. She was fine. So again, idk how the fuck you compared those two. if your memory was foggy fair enough, if not... Talk about misleading, holy shit.
I agree that the developer should have just let the tomboy story sit. Going back to change it imo only made things worse, it pissed off the people who enjoyed or were indifferent to the dark ending. I would surmise that the people who complained about the bad ending didn't like the happy ending, because of the reason for adding her. Once again I say. Who tf goes and willingly gets bred by the guy who ruined your life, she was a dumb character that's fine. But that kind of logic is fucking insane, even by hentai standards (It does exist, which is fine. That doesn't mean I can't say it's ridiculous though). I don't want to see her be breedable in the third game because I can see the trope now "The girl meets a good guy and gets a happy ending. But his dick is tiny, or he's sterile, or he just can't please the girl. So she goes back to the other guy to get a third kid while the bf is sidelined or leaves". Agree or disagree this is a common trope in ntr and it is polarizing. Yes, I'm not a fan of ntr, but as I said. My reason for not wanting to see this is "Mostly just because it would be such a lazy cop-out on the part of the developer to back petal on the happy ending just to include a very polarizing fetish". I don't know if the happy ending was included because of the complaints, but Reed said he seldom sleeps with the same woman twice, so you can surmise that the complaints were likely the cause for the addition into the second game. The developer back-petaled once I don't want to see it again because it's cowardly. Constantly flip-flopping from good to bad is not only annoying but also tiresome for both the people who enjoy and don't enjoy the characters ending. Let it end and move on to other characters.
Dude, I understand that seeing complaints from people who have no interest in these games is annoying. I also have to put up with idiots complaining about things that they don't like. The typical sanctimonious bastards that try to cancel projects, games, or people all because they're creating, or created something that they don't like. If those people can't take a step back and say "I don't like this but someone else does, and that's A-OKAY" They need to fuck off and find something better to do. But I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. I enjoyed the games but disliked the main character (Something I'm fucking entitled to because it's my goddamn opinion). I still played the games, I support their existence and development. I didn't condemn or shame anyone for liking said main character or the kinks. And in no way did I say the games or their MC should be changed. Fuck's sake, I encouraged people to play the games. I can like the games and dislike one of the characters, people do it for almost all forms of entertainment. So go direct your fucking anger at the people who deserve it.
So there you go, I hope that clarified things and helped you to pull your fucking horns in, as I was far from deserving of your anger on this matter. I don't want to see kink games castrated to appease the perpetually offended, or those who simply can't walk away from something that isn't to their tastes. I look forward to the third installment and will be playing it, I just don't want to see this game devolve into rehashing the same character's stories/ endings as a way to try and appeal to everyone. It's cowardly and lazy. No hard feelings, but if you quote me and make assumptions I'm going to answer with the same energy and clarify as a defence.
