FatGiant

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I know this is probably a lot to ask but can someone give me a TLDR version of how we went from a dev that seemed to be very trusted and liked here to him being basically viewed as another ICSTOR? I follow a shitton of game threads so it's hard to keep up with all this stuff.
TLDR: He fails.

Done then?

Peace :D
 

OEJ

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I know this is probably a lot to ask but can someone give me a TLDR version of how we went from a dev that seemed to be very trusted and liked here to him being basically viewed as another ICSTOR? I follow a shitton of game threads so it's hard to keep up with all this stuff.
this should help: https://f95zone.to/threads/wvm-s2-ch-1-ep-3-braindrop.35910/post-9943160

now add the 3 more excuses/delay posts to the ones mentioned there. Also see how the 2000+ render update mentioned in that post vanished into thin air.

P.S: these are the posts by uncle loco only, there are a ton more which were posted from his patreon to here (now they have been deleted on patreon to fool new ppl) not to mention all the pity posts before the once mentioned there.
 

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this should help: https://f95zone.to/threads/wvm-s2-ch-1-ep-3-braindrop.35910/post-9943160

now add the 3 more excuses/delay posts to the ones mentioned there. Also see how the 2000+ render update mentioned in that post vanished into thin air.

P.S: these are the posts by uncle loco only, there are a ton more which were posted from his patreon to here (now they have been deleted on patreon to fool new ppl) not to mention all the pity posts before the once mentioned there.
Oh man, have myself already forgotten how Long this fucking List already was. :ROFLMAO:
 
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aaachris

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Well, the biggest problem is still Patreon or the other sites because they give no shit is someone is a Faker or not. Actually this sort of behavior should get Banned from this Support platforms. Atleast to help the "Too easy Trust People* because from alone many will never check that or even forgot bout that they pledged.
They will do it when there is proper reason to do it. Brainded is free to post allegedly scam posts and technically swindle his supporters until it is proven verifiably. Current milk train is eerily similar to 2021 when he kept delaying after the beta update. Currently we are in the phase before some people close to him might die and he falls into another massive depression cycle which will push further development to at least june or july. Estimated first chunk update of 2023 is August at the earliest. Adjust your pledges accordingly and keep the milk train running.
 

Badjourasmix

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this should help: https://f95zone.to/threads/wvm-s2-ch-1-ep-3-braindrop.35910/post-9943160

now add the 3 more excuses/delay posts to the ones mentioned there. Also see how the 2000+ render update mentioned in that post vanished into thin air.

P.S: these are the posts by uncle loco only, there are a ton more which were posted from his patreon to here (now they have been deleted on patreon to fool new ppl) not to mention all the pity posts before the once mentioned there.
I am not as active on this thread as I used to be so I missed a lot of stuff. I can't really blame people for being distrustful. Devs are just normal people and shit can happen but that is next level. He is either making stuff up or he has been cursed by 100 gipsies.
 
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derpmcderp

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Problem is he gained 30 patreons the last 2 days.
His scam is working so more lazy people is gonna try and copy him.
As a previous poster pointed out, there is nothing stopping BD from subbing to his own Patreon with the money he has already made. But assuming that didn't happen, you also have to remember there are always going to be new people who see this game for the first time and think "Wow, this looks good!" But that inflow should get smaller if he continues this behavior while the outflow keeps growing. And you have to consider the turnover rate as well. I subbed to him in the middle of this drama not knowing how bad it was, and hung in WAY longer than I should have because I didn't get exposed to this history of neglect. If I just saw this game now as a new sub, I wouldn't make 1/100th of the time I did, I would have been a one month and done. And good luck recapturing the outflow audience, at this point they hate him more than they liked the game at its prime.
 

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Well, the biggest problem is still Patreon or the other sites because they give no shit is someone is a Faker or not. Actually this sort of behavior should get Banned from this Support platforms. Atleast to help the "Too easy Trust People* because from alone many will never check that or even forgot bout that they pledged.
If patrons start doing chargebacks in large enough numbers, Patreon will care, trust me. Every chargeback is a tremendous amount of work for the company to undo. Even one is annoying. Thousands and they would probably punish him simply to lower the amount of work he'd be making them do.
 
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That's a very long, overly personal, pointless essay. The problem with this sort of thing is that it's impossible to believe even if it were true. Particularly the part about feeling bad for taking pledges - the dude has been taking them consistently while reneging on promises for over a year.

Absolute crock.

I don't have a tiny violin, could someone else play one?
It would have been pointless and not believable if it was the first time, let alone the millionth time it happens.

I checked in on the game today and was as amused as I thought I would be. I saw a helpful post by a member named Uncle Loco. He had all of the posts by BD/Mackenzie from March 22nd of 2021 until yesterday. I checked the first one, and then another, and another. By the time I was on the 6th BD post I was laughing out loud. I decided that I would kind of curate a rough list of dates, excuses, release promises, and release sizes for anyone who wishes to read a condensed version of the past almost 2 years of this game's development. This is not 100% accurate. There may have been things I missed but this isn't an historical document. So sit back, grab some popcorn, and marvel at the endless drama that is TWO YEARS IN THE LIFE OF BRAINDROP (or TYITLOB as good ole BD would call it.


3/22/21 - Blurry eyes, hilarious explanation, expect release in 2 days. Size – 600+

3/26/21 - Unexpectedly his eyes have failed to heal, he will not 'fuck around' with his sight, expect release in 5 days. Size – 1000+

4/6/21 - Eyes almost healed, choosing to add renders, expect release in 3 weeks. Size – 1000+

4/20/21 - Headaches continue, unorganized, expect release in 2 weeks. Size – 1000+

5/3/21 - PC issues, sunstroke/sun allergy, expect release 'soon'. Size – 1500+

5/11/21 - Planning his weeding, planning to become a father, moving across the country, tear down and clean PC, expect release in 'soon'. Size – 1500+

5/29/21 - Getting married, honeymoon, expect release in 1 month. Size – 1500+

6/26/21 - Grandfather in hospital, expect release in 1 week. Size – 1500+

7/14/21 - Cooling system in PC leaked, rebuilt and cleaned PC, had a cold, expect release in 2 weeks. Size – 1500+

7/29/21 - Leaked on GPU maybe dead, trying 'things', PC taken apart, learning Blender, expect release 'soon'. Size – 1500+

8/9/21 - Converted all PC to air cooling, parts not delivered on time, has a new secret plan for future releases, expect release 'soon'. Size – 1500+

8/20/21 - Wife has minor injury, built a custom keyboard, realized he takes longer now because his work is better, expect release 'soon'. Size – ?

9/10/21 - Sick so has quarantined to friend's garage, took several 'tests', all were negative, expect release 3 weeks. Size – ?

10/2/21 - Daz kept crashing, expect release 'soon'. Size - ?

10/8/21 - Unhappy with lighting, redoing a scene, expect release in 1 week. Size - ?

10/15/21 - Released an approximate 200+ render Beta update. Expect another Beta update in 1 month. Size – 200+

11/8/21 - Wife, mother, and grandfather all separately hospitalized, expect a Beta update in 3 weeks. Size – 350+

11/28/21 - Complications with birth of child, expect 2 Beta releases next month. Size – 350+, 250+

12/3/21 - Beta release by Dec.24th, next Beta release by Jan.6th, full 1500+ render update by Feb.14th. Size – 350+, 250+, 1500+

12/17/21 - Online friend died, Beta may be delayed. Size – 350+, 250+, 1500+

12/23/21 - Christmas stress, mental 'issues', Beta delayed 1 week. Size – 350+, 250+, 1500+

12/30/21 - Has a new phone, anxiety, fatherhood, Christmas stress, will release Beta along with Jan.6th Beta release. Size – 600+, 1500+

1/20/22 - Was unprepared for fatherhood/game developing/life, release schedule reset to 'unknown'. Size - ?

1/25/22 - Beta release expected in 2 weeks. Size – 250 to 350+

1/31/22 - Will now only release full updates, expect full 1500+ render update in 5 weeks. Size – 1500+

2/11/22 - Almost done with update, release expected in 3 weeks. Size – 1600 to 1800+

2/25/22 - 1 scene left to render, release expected in 3 weeks. Size – 1600 to 1800+

3/5/22 - Forgot to save and program crashed, release expected in 2 weeks. Size – 1600 to 1800+

3/18/22 - Reworking the timeline, release expected in 2 weeks. Size – 2200 to 2400+

3/30/22 - Reworking the timeline is harder than anticipated, release date unknown. Size – 2200 to 2400+

5/3/22 - Grandfather died, release paused. Size – 2200 to 2400+

5/10/22 - Contemplating breaking update into 'chunks'. Release date unknown. Size - ?

5/16/22 - Plagued by uncertainty, have decided NOT to release the update in 'chunks', have created DITLO. Size - ?

5/28/22 - Cannot handle it if release goes poorly. Released DITLO. Size - ?

5/30/22 - Will now be releasing the update in 'chunks', will release 2 in June, entire update to be released by August 1st. Size - ?, ?, 2400+

6/13/22 - Decided to make the first 'chunk' release larger, will still release 2 in June, entire update to be released by August 1st. Size – 700+, ?, 2400+

6/24/22 - Mental 'issues', reworking scenes, one 'chunk' update on the 29th, entire update to be released by August 1st. Size – 700+, ?, 2400+

6/28/22 - Adderall caused a day-long panic attack, WVM only a hobby, 700+ 'chunk' release not ready, 300+ 'chunk' release ready now. Size – 300+, ?, 2400+

6/29/22 - 300+ 'chunk' released. Size - ?, 2400+

7/29/22 - Avoided social media, added a path to next 'chunk' delaying its release. Size - ?, 2400+

8/24/22 - Mackenzie hired to handle PR and 'keep it real'. Size - ?, 2400+

9/7/22 - A 300+ render update is planned to release 'soon'. Size 300+

9/20/22 - 300+ 'chunk' released. 400+ render update expected to be released in 10 days. Size – 400+

10/1/22 - Entire BD household is sick, update expected to be delayed 1 week. Size – 400+

10/28/22 - 'Large' update planned for Nov.19th. (There may have been a 400+ render update released, I forget). Size - ?

11/11/22 - Unknown issues with Patreon, release has not been delayed though. Size - ?

12/19/22 - BD has appendicitis, then has pneumonia, no access to social media in hospital, update delayed. Size - ?

1/12/23 - FIRM release date of Jan.26th. Mackenzie had no access to technology at family home. Size - ?

1/25/23 - BD has decided that he needs to redecorate the home of the MC. Hilarity ensues. Size - ?
 

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So after doing a lot of reading in this thread, and going back and analyzing Braindrop's and Mackenzie's writing styles, I think I've come to a conclusion they are without question the same person, beyond what people just already assume so, which I already did but this confirms it for me.

If we go back to this post:
There's a lot to unpack here.
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We can see that Braindrop's writing style is quite unusual in the sense that he likes to use a single "shift+enter".
What this means is instead of starting a new paragraph, he goes to the next line but does not separate it from the paragraph.
It ends up looking something like this, which is not the normal and I've barely seen people type in this manner.
It sticks out to me so much because like I said, this is not a usual way to communicate. No book or other written piece (to my knowledge) is wrote in this style.

And then seemingly randomly, he'll do the double "shift+enter" to start an actual new paragraph, like I'm doing here. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

And now let's take a look at "Mackenzie" doing the exact same mannerisms:

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As you can see, almost EVERY post from Mackenzie does the EXACT SAME single "shift+enter" for a new sentence on a new line but still attached to the paragraph, and then randomly goes to a new paragraph.

In my mind, there's no question or doubt anymore. There's no way these "two" people just happen to have identical, very odd manners when it comes to long form text posts. There should be no more doubts about this.

EDIT: Shoutout to OEJ for these Discord screencaps.
 

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So after doing a lot of reading in this thread, and going back and analyzing Braindrop's and Mackenzie's writing styles, I think I've come to a conclusion they are without question the same person, beyond what people just already assume so, which I already did but this confirms it for me.

If we go back to this post:


We can see that Braindrop's writing style is quite unusual in the sense that he likes to use a single "shift+enter".
What this means is instead of starting a new paragraph, he goes to the next line but does not separate it from the paragraph.
It ends up looking something like this, which is not the normal and I've barely seen people type in this manner.
It sticks out to me so much because like I said, this is not a usual way to communicate. No book or other written piece (to my knowledge) is wrote in this style.

And then seemingly randomly, he'll do the double "shift+enter" to start an actual new paragraph, like I'm doing here. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

And now let's take a look at "Mackenzie" doing the exact same mannerisms:

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As you can see, almost EVERY post from Mackenzie does the EXACT SAME single "shift+enter" for a new sentence on a new line but still attached to the paragraph, and then randomly goes to a new paragraph.

In my mind, there's no question or doubt anymore. There's no way these "two" people just happen to have identical, very odd manners when it comes to long form text posts. There should be no more doubts about this.

EDIT: Shoutout to OEJ for these Discord screencaps.
what the hell are they talking about. always speaking of updates and timelines yet they haven't released shit in quite a while. why would i believe a word they are saying bd or his imaginary mackenzie.. why not tell the truth that he hasn't made a single since his last update which was ... oh boy i king of forgot since it was a long fukin' time ago..
hopefully this post wont get deleted.. :/
 

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Discord Update. It seems Mac wants to encourage BD to make more disco emotes while he's taking the month of March off. Great plan for someone he hired to keep his feet on the fire...
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One would expect that it would be within Mackenzie's interest for BD not to distract him with something like this, but for her to seek out a few potential artists, inquire about their prices, and for BD to then contact a few of those artists. People who do this professionally are not necessarily cheap, but usually have the technical know-how. Everything reminds a lot of a child that does everything to avoid doing its homework.
 
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Regardless of whatever. Braindrop is a liar and he can keep writing books of excuses and he may have his alter ego, Mackenzie. He is unprofessional and untrustworthy.

It's sad to see people still believe everything he says and still are gullible to support him.
 

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Let's pretend what Mackenzie says on Discord is true.

I've always believed that the best thing to do is to stop someone from overthinking and revising over and over again. Especially when the person is going insane. I can't understand why Mackenzie doesn't do him the favor and helps him out of his misery by releasing the update and getting him out of this vicious cycle.
 
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