Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[Nerttu]

Yeah, it's really cool that characters are experienced in this game and it's not like in some games where you have x years old beautiful ladies acting like they never have been horny, touched or heard about porn before all they have been doing in their teens are going to church and praise jesus every sunday not letting anyone to touch them and stuff.

Well said !!!!:closedtongue::closedtongue::closedtongue::closedtongue:

 

[septacycell]

Hi everyone,

For those of you who don't know me, I'm the writer for the game.

I just wanted to make a short announcement regarding Caroline.

*There are some minor spoilers for 0.4 included within this post, so I would urge you to read at your own caution.*

I've been given some leeway to write scenes as I see fit based upon the images provided. In some instances, this has allowed me to develop characters' backstories beyond what ICSTOR had originally designed or envisioned.

In this instance I chose for Caroline to have several ex-boyfriends given that she's a young woman in her mid-twenties. It only seemed natural that she would have had some previous relationships by that age. I didn't anticipate that it would lead to a backlash in any way. I strongly disagree with some individuals' claims that she is "the town bicycle" or a "slut," but I'm not here to start an argument.

One of the purposes of Caroline's exes was to provide a sharp contrast of how they treated her, compared with how the player treats her. The nightclub scene served as an example of such. Gradually, as Caroline and the player do more together she realises that nothing is the same as it was with her exes. She gets butterflies in her belly with every kiss, she experiences pleasure that past partners never gave to her, and she learns that she might be able to have a healthy romantic relationship with the player.

Another reason I chose this is because I felt it fitted well with her character. Caroline is a character who strives for maturity and independence (Granted, she can't always achieve her goals on her own). It made sense for her to be proactive in her social life, as well as her work life. This is why I wrote her character as having multiple previous relationships.

The final reason is that Caroline is a character who enjoys sex. She's more than happy to use it as a reward for the player when they assist her in her shop. Why would such a character who is both fiercely independent and
positive about sex choose NOT to date and try to find a boyfriend?

I do apologise if you are unhappy with how Caroline's backstory has developed. Any blame for that lies entirely with myself, and not with ICSTOR. At present, I am working with ICSTOR to make small alterations, including editing away references to multiple previous partners. Thankfully, in this medium of art, nothing is set in stone and adjustments can quickly and easily be made to resolve potential issues.

The most productive conversation that can probably be had regarding this is: Are you happy with any of the women having former partners? (Obviously some like Linda require at least one former partner for logic's sake.)

If the answer is a resolute 'no', then I know I can irk away from it during future versions of this game.

I'll remain around for the next hour or so to answer questions - but it's an extremely active thread, so if I don't get back to you I'm probably swamped replying to other users.

1) I personally never had a problem with characters that had past relationships, I find it annoying that people suddenly hate a character because they find out she is not virgin, of course having 1 or two of those can be nice, but that's not a problem here, beside is called MILFY city, the M in the word should means they can't be virgin.
Maybe make a poll on Patreon, after all if you gotta listen to people is the one paying I suppose.

2) If I may ask, even if you might not be responsible for this. There are times where certain events are repeatable (photo-shoots, night visits with X character), but then at a certain point these events disappear or the character disappear, and I get that they might not have nothing new to say or do but isn't it kinda odd? Is it a deliberate choice?

3) I am curious to know, what are you fetishes? Certain clothes? Act? Behaviour? Looks?

Finally, thanks, I am enjoying the writing so far, the pacing feels good enough, and I like this gentle femdom certain characters have, as opposed to blackmailing to which many MCs resort to.

 

[ugz2]

@Onyxdime I just want to say I personally enjoyed the Caroline arc this update and I think your reasoning is not only sound but everything you said with regards to Caroline's character is conveyed through the game well.

Will these changes be implemented immediately or in 0.5? It seems like something that should've been communicated with patrons rather than here.

 

[Balduko]

I feel like people think I had a problem with Caroline backstory when in reality I just found it funny and wanted to post it. The town bicycle was just a comment doing basic math with the amount of times she mentioned the ex-boyfriends. :evilsmile:

 

[poser707]

Wow, I skipped 0.3 and coming back to 0.4 – this game is already huge! Animations are top-notch and writing isn't half bad either. Easily my fav since DoD ended.

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, it's cool that you're hanging here reading a feedback. Like many here said – it's not a problem that Caroline had boyfriends before, it's just really unnecessary to constantly refer to them. ANd I'd add a minor complaint regarding inconsistency – in one scene she says she never done footjobs before, while in the next one she's surprised again (c'mon, gal, you've seen that MC got foot fetish a couple days ago) but says she did it a couple of times with her exes. It's not critical, but it's noticeable.

 

[Onyxdime]

1) I personally never had a problem with characters that had past relationships, I find it annoying that people suddenly hate a character because they find out she is not virgin, of course having 1 or two of those can be nice, but that's not a problem here, beside is called MILFY city, the M in the word should means they can't be virgin.
Maybe make a poll on Patreon, after all if you gotta listen to people is the one paying I suppose.

2) If I may ask, even if you might not be responsible for this. There are times where certain events are repeatable (photo-shoots, night visits with X character), but then at a certain point these events disappear or the character disappear, and I get that they might not have nothing new to say or do but isn't it kinda odd? Is it a deliberate choice?

3) I am curious to know, what are you fetishes? Certain clothes? Act? Behaviour? Looks?

Finally, thanks, I am enjoying the writing so far, the pacing feels good enough, and I like this gentle femdom certain characters have, as opposed to blackmailing to which many MCs resort to.

1.) Aye, I'll leave that for ICSTOR to sort out. At the end of the day there are paying customers and people have certain preferences.

2.) I'm afraid I have absolutely no idea about that side of things. That's a decision made by ICSTOR and the programmer - but I can certainly feed it back for you.

3.) Honestly? I love almost everything except scat and guro. If I had to choose a top 5 they would be mind control, futa, corruption, brother-sister, and some non-con.
I've written everything from erotic horror stories, to fantasy cities being besieged by orcs and tentacle monsters, to a long running CYOA story about a naive Japanese schoolgirl who comes to England on a student exchange trip.

 

[MonkMan]

I'm perfectly fine with Caroline having exes. Don't recall if she mostly thought about the exes or spoke it aloud, though. Thinking about how MC is different from her exes should be perfectly fine. Speaking it aloud makes sense from the perspective that while she is experienced, MC is not, so she wants to call out those traits she really appreciates and uses exes as contrast. That way she can reinforce in him those traits that she wants to see continue in their relationship. Personally, I like the encouragement of comparing MC to exes as a way to spur him to be happy with his performance. "Best <> ever!" seems too generic to get that across. Specificity in compliments helps a lot!

 

[bigpenniser]

Yeah, I'm getting a good understanding of where the issues lie now. I know what to avoid going forward.

I've been writing for ICSTOR since that MILF blackmail game (the name escapes me right now). It used to be that I solely wrote the sex scenes while ICSTOR did non-sex scene text. You might have noticed this most prominently during Incest Story 2 where there were two different writing styles. Some of the sentences may not have been written by myself. It is entirely possible they were added in by ICSTOR, or perhaps by the programmer who was correcting a typo of mine.

I am well aware that I use ellipsis to try and draw out a sense of pondering/anxiety/shyness. If you feel like I'm overusing them, then it's certainly valid criticism that I could take on board.

EDIT: Thanks for taking the time to write out your concerns by the way. I appreciate you doing that.

No problem, glad I explained myself.

Now in reference to the excess of commas and dashes, check it if you have a moment, because honestly seeing how you write your comments here, I honestly think that something weird has happened with the text after you have written it. Its not even elipsis, examples:

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First 2 are random dashes that serve no purpose, most noticeable in the second screenshot, the other three are an excess of misplaced commas. And again, seeing your comments, you dont write like that at all.

 

[Buzz007]

The main menu music is the same as in "13 Rooms" right ? At least it sounds very similar.

 

[khumak]

Nice updated. The crashes I was getting the first time I tried it are all fixed by the inventory hotfix. I do think it would be nice if some of the scenes that are currently 1 time only were repeatable, especially with the older sister.

 

[Apostate]

I admit that there's been a lot of great content, but am I the only one who now feels like he's running around an abandoned city trying to guess where to find is the only other person in it with whom it's possible to interact?

Total content remaining in the game =

- cleaning a pool
- a bedtime bj (the only recurring event)
- running around a ghost town trying to find Caroline only to be repeatedly rejected by her

It's frankly bizarre. Why is no one else in the home? Why can you not talk to anyone at school? Why is the city empty? Why is there not even any recurring or replayable content from previous chapters? I've never seen anything like it in a game.

 

[Onyxdime]

No problem, glad I explained myself.

Now in reference to the excess of commas and dashes, check it if you have a moment, because honestly seeing how you write your comments here, I honestly think that something weird has happened with the text after you have written it. Its not even elipsis, examples:

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First 2 are random dashes that serve no purpose, most noticeable in the second screenshot, the other three are an excess of misplaced commas. And again, seeing your comments, you dont write like that at all.

Thanks for showing those examples to me.

I do all my writing on a Google Doc which I share with the other developers of the game.

I just cross-referenced what is appearing for those scenes against what I originally wrote. Someone else has edited my text before it was put into the game; or there is an error with the game engine which results in the unusual punctuation. I'm thinking that it is likely the prior. I'll mention it to ICSTOR and see where things are going wrong, because it's just bizarre that it's appearing that way.

 

[Johnny-Doe]

Hi everyone,

For those of you who don't know me, I'm the writer for the game.

I just wanted to make a short announcement regarding Caroline.

*There are some minor spoilers for 0.4 included within this post, so I would urge you to read at your own caution.*

I've been given some leeway to write scenes as I see fit based upon the images provided. In some instances, this has allowed me to develop characters' backstories beyond what ICSTOR had originally designed or envisioned.

In this instance I chose for Caroline to have several ex-boyfriends given that she's a young woman in her mid-twenties. It only seemed natural that she would have had some previous relationships by that age. I didn't anticipate that it would lead to a backlash in any way. I strongly disagree with some individuals' claims that she is "the town bicycle" or a "slut," but I'm not here to start an argument.

One of the purposes of Caroline's exes was to provide a sharp contrast of how they treated her, compared with how the player treats her. The nightclub scene served as an example of such. Gradually, as Caroline and the player do more together she realises that nothing is the same as it was with her exes. She gets butterflies in her belly with every kiss, she experiences pleasure that past partners never gave to her, and she learns that she might be able to have a healthy romantic relationship with the player.

Another reason I chose this is because I felt it fitted well with her character. Caroline is a character who strives for maturity and independence (Granted, she can't always achieve her goals on her own). It made sense for her to be proactive in her social life, as well as her work life. This is why I wrote her character as having multiple previous relationships.

The final reason is that Caroline is a character who enjoys sex. She's more than happy to use it as a reward for the player when they assist her in her shop. Why would such a character who is both fiercely independent and
positive about sex choose NOT to date and try to find a boyfriend?

I do apologise if you are unhappy with how Caroline's backstory has developed. Any blame for that lies entirely with myself, and not with ICSTOR. At present, I am working with ICSTOR to make small alterations, including editing away references to multiple previous partners. Thankfully, in this medium of art, nothing is set in stone and adjustments can quickly and easily be made to resolve potential issues.

The most productive conversation that can probably be had regarding this is: Are you happy with any of the women having former partners? (Obviously some like Linda require at least one former partner for logic's sake.)

If the answer is a resolute 'no', then I know I can irk away from it during future versions of this game.

I'll remain around for the next hour or so to answer questions - but it's an extremely active thread, so if I don't get back to you I'm probably swamped replying to other users.

Let me start by saying that is really nice when members of the developers team interact with the masses,i really dont have any issue with characters being experienced in sex BUT you need some balance for them.The way Caroline explained how easily was for her to lose her cool and start taking it raw by a bunch of exs was out of character imo,i kinda felt Violet and Caroline changed bodies or something.
Last but not least i wanna address everyones issue about Caroline mentioning exs over and over again during sex,i did liked the thing you did there with the comparison,it was really cute to see her experience the "romantic"side of things after many failed attempts but you should skip some graphic details.Imagine you have this sexbomb beside you,you craved for her body for as long as you remember,she awaits patiently for your move,her pussy looks so inviting and ready and the moment you proceed to eat her out she starts talking about how a black guy(no racist!) stretched her pussy during sex......boner killer!

TDLR Keep her experienced but tone it down a notch

 

[bigpenniser]

Thanks for showing those examples to me.

I do all my writing on a Google Doc which I share with the other developers of the game.

I just cross-referenced what is appearing for those scenes against what I originally wrote. Someone else has edited my text before it was put into the game; or there is an error with the game engine which results in the unusual punctuation. I'm thinking that it is likely the prior. I'll mention it to ICSTOR and see where things are going wrong, because it's just bizarre that it's appearing that way.

Glad to be helpful, and thanks a lot for being around here reading feedback.

am I the only one who now feels like he's running around an abandoned city trying to guess where to find is the only other person in it with whom it's possible to interact?

Yeah, I never liked this approach to finished events, they should be repeatable, if anything to not have an empty house on an empty city.

I really hope this is only during development and when the game is finished the girls dont start disappearing as if they have been abducted by aliens after finishing the event.

Unless it is actually revealed that they are being abducted by aliens and you find them getting fucked in an spaceship as the beginning of part 2 :RarePepe:

 

[Onyxdime]

Just a quick update on the unusual punctuation and dashes. I've spoken with ICSTOR and there seemed to be a problem copying certain parts of my writing across. It led to the programmer having to urgently make adjustments to try and correct the issues himself.

Don't worry about it. These are things we can easily get fixed.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

1.) Aye, I'll leave that for ICSTOR to sort out. At the end of the day there are paying customers and people have certain preferences.

2.) I'm afraid I have absolutely no idea about that side of things. That's a decision made by ICSTOR and the programmer - but I can certainly feed it back for you.

3.) Honestly? I love almost everything except scat and guro. If I had to choose a top 5 they would be mind control, futa, corruption, brother-sister, and some non-con.
I've written everything from erotic horror stories, to fantasy cities being besieged by orcs and tentacle monsters, to a long running CYOA story about a naive Japanese schoolgirl who comes to England on a student exchange trip.

A man/woman/being of culture. :closedeyesmile: :closedeyesmile:

Have to agree with others about repeatable events. But also point out this update was a improvment since now everyone is still at home during the night(aunt and aunt's wife included) and you can find Liza/Mom and Caroline at the house during the day. Still it would be nice if the others don't disapear after their newest content end.

 

[bigpenniser]

Just a quick update on the unusual punctuation and dashes. I've spoken with ICSTOR and there seemed to be a problem copying certain parts of my writing across. It led to the programmer having to urgently make adjustments to try and correct the issues himself.

Don't worry about it. These are things we can easily get fixed.

Good to know you were able to sort it out

 

[Bahamut Zero]

Hi guys i finally see the new update and i am now start to download it.
Can someone tell me if i need to dowload also the hotfix? Or the main link is already patched?
Also che i use me old save?
Anticipate thankses.

 

[Johnny-Doe]

Hi guys i finally see the new update and i am now start to download it.
Can someone tell me if i need to dowload also the hotfix? Or the main link is already patched?
Also che i use me old save?
Anticipate thankses.

You wont need the fix if your using an old save,i did used my 0.3c save with not a single issue.

 

[KillaMonka]

Hi everyone,

For those of you who don't know me, I'm the writer for the game.

I just wanted to make a short announcement regarding Caroline.

*There are some minor spoilers for 0.4 included within this post, so I would urge you to read at your own caution.*

I've been given some leeway to write scenes as I see fit based upon the images provided. In some instances, this has allowed me to develop characters' backstories beyond what ICSTOR had originally designed or envisioned.

In this instance I chose for Caroline to have several ex-boyfriends given that she's a young woman in her mid-twenties. It only seemed natural that she would have had some previous relationships by that age. I didn't anticipate that it would lead to a backlash in any way. I strongly disagree with some individuals' claims that she is "the town bicycle" or a "slut," but I'm not here to start an argument.

One of the purposes of Caroline's exes was to provide a sharp contrast of how they treated her, compared with how the player treats her. The nightclub scene served as an example of such. Gradually, as Caroline and the player do more together she realises that nothing is the same as it was with her exes. She gets butterflies in her belly with every kiss, she experiences pleasure that past partners never gave to her, and she learns that she might be able to have a healthy romantic relationship with the player.

Another reason I chose this is because I felt it fitted well with her character. Caroline is a character who strives for maturity and independence (Granted, she can't always achieve her goals on her own). It made sense for her to be proactive in her social life, as well as her work life. This is why I wrote her character as having multiple previous relationships.

The final reason is that Caroline is a character who enjoys sex. She's more than happy to use it as a reward for the player when they assist her in her shop. Why would such a character who is both fiercely independent and
positive about sex choose NOT to date and try to find a boyfriend?

I do apologise if you are unhappy with how Caroline's backstory has developed. Any blame for that lies entirely with myself, and not with ICSTOR. At present, I am working with ICSTOR to make small alterations, including editing away references to multiple previous partners. Thankfully, in this medium of art, nothing is set in stone and adjustments can quickly and easily be made to resolve potential issues.

The most productive conversation that can probably be had regarding this is: Are you happy with any of the women having former partners? (Obviously some like Linda require at least one former partner for logic's sake.)

If the answer is a resolute 'no', then I know I can irk away from it during future versions of this game.

I'll remain around for the next hour or so to answer questions - but it's an extremely active thread, so if I don't get back to you I'm probably swamped replying to other users.

To be honest Caroline came annoying to an extreme sometimes in this updates because of the boyfriends talk. Till this update Caroline was my clear favorite with Linda a close second (but second nonetheless),in some scenes she made me pause for moments because of the things she was saying during sexual scenes. I remember in particular one at the bedroom telling us " how lucky we are that we have her because other guys want her" and was like that's mood kills comments during sex and almost reason for an argument (might be something that's sensitive to me, don't know honestly).

I think the you changed her too much in this update and she came us obnoxious, meaning in previous update the where comments that showed she was "experienced" like that she never brought boys home (or she didn't remember sorry) and was okay about, it because it was a simple comment that showed she had experience without coming out as obnoxious with her previous relationships.

I think should re-write a lot of ex dialogue in the update imho, but to be clear the ex-boyfriend in the club was okay to me because it showed how different we are with them. Also the dialogue about the her going bareback when too horny at her store with her first and Violet and us with her after the shoot should be more that is what violet does cuz she get's super horny and Caroline making a comparison, that she almost has done that and make apart of her next update and that it happens her to her for the first time with us. It will make a more controlled individual then she has written in 0.4.

What makes her story my favorite is that is shows two individuals finding their soul-mates and their struggle that they can't actually be together, i honestly love their arc because it's the most believable and original in some parts and the last update made me think you (plural) ruined the trueness and the hopeless romantic vibe it had. Also the start of this update was very cringy for me, in the last scene in 0.2 with Caroline it showed she was starting to care for us truly and i was expecting that she would shy away out of fear or cut it off completely. I was kinda right about it but she come out in the break up really mean and unnecessarily looking like she did for her self and not for (which is true but till that moment she was caring very much and had the protective big sis vibe and it did a 180 on us there).

Also the last two updates (0.3 and 0.4) made the Mc look like a sex-obsessed, self-interested and cruel guy. with Sara at one moment he was like let's take it slow and the next is we aren't couple because i haven't fucked you yet, i was like what happened to the kid that was horny starting something with a virgin girl like him, but pushing her a bit more then necessary because he is horny?. Also i think when Caroline broke the deal with him his first thought shouldn't only sexual because, the previous night we had the choice to tell her that we love her and someone that is in love doesn't think about sex (only...). Also i thought the roles should be a bit opposite with not talking to Caroline because we are heartbroken and not wanting to talk with her and she trying to restore things to their pre-deal relationship (or both not wanting to talk, don't know) but not only talking to her because we want sex, it felt dishonest and emotionless.

To conclude, just re-write (if possible) the constant dialogue about her exes in the sex scenes especially, let the club scenes intact it was fine, the comparisons that we are better then her exes are ego boosters about a young or any guy and some simple lines about her past sexual life are fine that are not speaking in specifics (specifics about exes are mood killers). Make the MC genuine again, meaning a kid that is horny and is looking for sex but most important to him are his relationships and their feelings (with Linda, Sara and Caroline) then just that he can have sex with them, a great example of him caring about her mind-state was in the photo-shoot with Caroline when he apologized to her about selfish he was (and it almost felt ooc then, because there was no showing of him caring about her feelings in any thoughts or dialogue till that point).

P.m if you want me to talk about specifics in dialogue, i care about this game a lot because i think it can be the best one around... but the constant changes of the characters is making it worse then i ever expected (like the last to updates with the Mc in 0.3 and 0.4 in his sudden sex above feelings treatment with Sara and Caroline and what i wrote in this essay(jesus...) about Caroline's ex talk.
Fin