naughtyroad

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(...) Why not just like 2 month updates but shorter. It takes this long but they are mega huge.
Well, that'd be the smart thing to do, financially more than anything. But story's more important to me. I want chapters to have an arch. A beginning, middle and end, that you can go through at your own pace without interruption. Doling chunks out piecemeal every x months undermines that, and it also takes away my ability to go back and tweak or completely revise something in the beginning of the chapter to support what happens in the middle or the end. So that's why it's happening this way, and that's why it'll never get released chunked out in bits and pieces.

To me, the end result is what matters, and if there's some horngy grumbling along the way, that's just too bad.
 

Wonko_the_Sane*

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So not too much longer. A fucking year is too long. After a few months you forget a lot. More than 2 months is definitely too long if you're like me over 40 and play several AVNs.
I'm over 60, and I can't tell you how many AVNs I have played or am playing. I love that naughtyroad doesn't dole it out in random-sized chunks, but in whole chapters that are narratively cohesive. Many of those on shorter update schedules I'll let 3 or 4 updates go by before resuming, just so there will actually be a reasonable amount of material added. I hate getting a new update and it only being an additional 12 minutes of gameplay. I'm sorry your health isn't the best — I'm not exactly A1 myself, but that's life — but the world (and its game updates) don't revolve around you. Sorry.
 

naughtyroad

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(...)I think he will lose his supporters if it takes that long. I hope I'm wrong.
If support collapses, it collapses. The game isn't going to be made any other way. It can't go faster because a day only has so many hours. The whole thing is set on a fixed course really, and barring a meteor strike, it's going to arrive exactly when it's done, and no sooner. Worrying about what might happen on the sidelines is moot, really.

I agree the same. I know and respect that they put effort into the graphics and plot of the game, but no game should take that long to update.
Thankfully, that decision is entirely not yours to make, and your opinion on the matter about as valuable as the depreciation of your keyboard during the time it took you to type it.
 

Envy*

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When people will understand that game developers are not at their disposal. Under the pretext that we give them our money so we should have everything right away ? Do you even know how long it takes to develop even one chapter ? Developers are like you, human, with private or other worries, we never say it enough, they are not robots.
 

MrFriendly

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When people will understand that game developers are not at their disposal. Under the pretext that we give them our money so we should have everything right away ? Do you even know how long it takes to develop even one chapter ? Developers are like you, human, with private or other worries, we never say it enough, they are not robots.
WHAT!??! But I distinctly remember being issued a chain and whip the day I joined this website! How else are we going to teach developers to bend to our demands? How else are we going to get them to include more perverse scenes in their games? We chain them to their desk and whip them to work harder and faster! No excuses! Take away their real lives and make them do what they must so we, the horny horde, can enjoy some quality time in front of our computers!

Oh, uh... Wait, my wife's telling me that was merely a coincidence, the chain and whip were for a completely different and offline usage... Safe word seems to be "dumbass" this week. ;)

:ROFLMAO:

Seriously, though. I never anticipated the amount of vitriol that developers receive from people who are stealing their games, it continues to baffle me (except for that guy who develops Milfy City, I get that). I'm just happy they continue to make their games despite everything.
 

rudy007

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WHAT!??! But I distinctly remember being issued a chain and whip the day I joined this website! How else are we going to teach developers to bend to our demands? How else are we going to get them to include more perverse scenes in their games? We chain them to their desk and whip them to work harder and faster! No excuses! Take away their real lives and make them do what they must so we, the horny horde, can enjoy some quality time in front of our computers!

Oh, uh... Wait, my wife's telling me that was merely a coincidence, the chain and whip were for a completely different and offline usage... Safe word seems to be "dumbass" this week. ;)

:ROFLMAO:

Seriously, though. I never anticipated the amount of vitriol that developers receive from people who are stealing their games, it continues to baffle me (except for that guy who develops Milfy City, I get that). I'm just happy they continue to make their games despite everything.
Wait... My GF named me at least five times today "dumbass", I thought she is just mean to me. But I'm not so sure now... ;)
 

InvaderZim

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I agree the same. I know and respect that they put effort into the graphics and plot of the game, but no game should take that long to update.
As someone who has worked his entire career in research/development/maintenance in a pretty heavy technical field I am all to familiar with the "Anything I don't know or understand is easy and quick to do" fallacy.

This was exactly the point of the seminal paper by David Dunning and Justin Kruger: "Unskilled and Unaware of it"

They also found the opposite effect where skilled people tend to underestimate their skills, often called Impostor Syndrome.

But, the latter effect rarely grace these discussions.
 

PBS666

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That would explain why they don't let me into the insane asylum. They say that they are afraid that I might have a bad influence on them.
You mean like teaching the nuts how to hunt the squirrels ? Or to shine their face and shave their shoes ?

"They're trying to drive me sane o_O"
 

rudy007

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You mean like teaching the nuts how to hunt the squirrels ? Or to shine their face and shave their shoes ?

"They're trying to drive me sane o_O"
No, that's a "last" exit institution. They learned that already. They are professionals... Their last opsesions are bears... and one medieval weapon, can't remember which one... ;)
 

MrFriendly

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That might be a problem if the story or characters are forgettable, or the story is badly convoluted with a too large cast. Not the case here IMO. I can distinctly remember what happened last episode, and my memory is not exactly that sharp anymore.
This... If the renders were of the same quality and models we see in hundreds of games on here I am sure I would forget it, the unique approach to the story helps but for me the unconventional take on the art really makes it next level. Don't get me wrong, the storytelling in this game is great, and it has all the pervy content anyone could want, but for me the art that accompanies the story takes it to the next level. There are very few developers who would "waste" their time and energy to add a bear "attack" to the background of a scene because it is unnecessary and draws focus away from the central storyline. But for me that is what makes this game more memorable, it doesn't fade back into the morass of all the other games of its ilk because the dev has a quirky sense of humor that they share with us. We don't get generic characters against generic backgrounds having generic sex, in this game there really isn't anything that I'd consider generic.
 

Ru1n

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When people will understand that game developers are not at their disposal. Under the pretext that we give them our money so we should have everything right away ? Do you even know how long it takes to develop even one chapter ? Developers are like you, human, with private or other worries, we never say it enough, they are not robots.
The customer is always right, i paid, therefore you are at my disposal to do whatever i please, you are my slave, i've bought you!
 
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