Can NTR be avoided ?
Sorry, seemed funnier in my head
Sorry, seemed funnier in my head
OK, I have to admit, seeing that on page 610 of the comments is pretty hilarious. On the first few pages of a new game, sure, but 610 pages in?? lolCan NTR be avoided ?
Sorry, seemed funnier in my head
Thanks, gives me hope there are others with as twisted a sence of humor as myselfOK, I have to admit, seeing that on page 610 of the comments is pretty hilarious. On the first few pages of a new game, sure, but 610 pages in?? lol
Maybe I should just wait until complete but I'm not in the best health (an extreme understatement) and might not live long enough. I remember the basic but goddamn! Why not just like 2 month updates but shorter. It takes this long but they are mega huge.
Very sorry to hear that, wish you could have what you want. But, not the way the world works and Naughty is his own individual with his own time spent making his own game.. he's already stated (many, many times) that he's doing it exactly the way he wants to and that he doesn't care about people's criticisms or worries about his release schedule, so not rlly any point in continuing to complain about it, ya know? First time you play the game and don't know the schedule or realize how many times the concern's already been addressed, sure, understandable, but I feel like I've seen you around here and you know by now, right?Problem is the longer it takes to update, the more people forget.
You came to the right place then. Here you can be twisting with the best of usThanks, gives me hope there are others with as twisted a sence of humor as myself
There are still all the icons in the bottom left side of the progress chart to be marked as done. Those alone usually take a couple of weeks, more or less, so I'm afraid you're probably being way too optimisticDamn, still remains ... Maybe another two weeks more
I only do that when it's like every 2 weeks. More than 2 or 3 months I forget a lot. 6 months plus I forget much. One like this I forget almost everything.I find myself skipping many releases of games I actually like a lot if the Changelog looks underwhelming due to frequent updates.
Some I've actually gotten into the skipping habit to such an extent i forgot i play them.
"Release 17.3, aaaand I have 5.1 sitting on my drive. Right.. Well, guess there's some content now then"
Yeah, there are a couple I've had that happen with. "Oh, I forgot about that one...for quite some time. apparently!"I find myself skipping many releases of games I actually like a lot if the Changelog looks underwhelming due to frequent updates.
Some I've actually gotten into the skipping habit to such an extent i forgot i play them.
"Release 17.3, aaaand I have 5.1 sitting on my drive. Right.. Well, guess there's some content now then"
I know a lot of people play these games for the sex but I am really looking forward to the story in the next chapter as well.
especially after the ending to the last chapter.
Me to. It can have the most beautiful renders, but a bad story, That's enough for me to quit playing. If I see potential, I'll wait two-three updates. And if it's sandbox, that's not for me. I prefer good story and good characters AVN.
Over the last couple of years, I've definitely prioritized storied games.I Agree completely
naughtyroad has definitely inspired me. He's one of the handful of Dev's that I'm learning from.For the art there is a middle point where I like to see these games exist. I don't want to get too close to the uncanny valley when it comes to the renders, but I also don't want to see messily drawn art that looks like two colorful blobs undergoing mitosis.
The story is what holds it all together because otherwise it is just porn. If I want to see a "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" scene there's a hub for that. I'm here for two things 1) a well told story and 2) being able to interact with that story by making decisions in the beginning of the game that eventually fuck up the life of the main character at the end of the game.
And I agree, the last time I enjoyed playing in a sandbox I was 5. Too many developers think that they should include sandbox elements to lengthen the game. They don't understand that if you write a great story people will stick around even when the update is small. I love this game because I feel naughtyroad is one of the few devs out there that figured this out. He makes a great game with a story that I want to read and art that I want to see. Not a lot of people do that.
Me, too!Wise words, MrFriendly. I agree with everything... Where should I sign for that?
Well, I'm working on stories about kinks, presented with more realism (I.E. Consent is crucial)Unfortunately, it seems so few people do agree. At least going by the porn games that proliferate this site. Not going to knock someone for having whatever kink they have. I'd just rather see a lot more thoughtfully done games like LoML than cheap sex scenes between the same 2-3 daz models.
Same here, I gave Glamour some of my money in part because I wanted to see where Kate's path would develop. Not interested in Max, who starts out a creepy narcissist and remains unchanged by the events around him. Most gain some level of empathy and compassion as the story progresses, but not Max.I agree one thing i would add is i hate when the mc in these games in an arsehole or creepy that has turned me off a lotta visual novels
Hmmm.... If you are over 40 and play several AVNs, I would have thought that you had plenty to occupy your time while waiting for the games with a long development cycle. I'm over 60 and retired, but I still have plenty to occupy my mind between the games, the forums, and my own AVN projects.So not too much longer. A fucking year is too long. After a few months you forget a lot. More than 2 months is definitely too long if you're like me over 40 and play several AVNs.
More power to you! I'm creating AVNs that I want to create. I'm motivated not only by the stories inside me but also my own standards for the art, putting out a work that I can feel happy with/proud of.Well, that'd be the smart thing to do, financially more than anything. But story's more important to me. I want chapters to have an arch. A beginning, middle and end, that you can go through at your own pace without interruption. Doling chunks out piecemeal every x months undermines that, and it also takes away my ability to go back and tweak or completely revise something in the beginning of the chapter to support what happens in the middle or the end. So that's why it's happening this way, and that's why it'll never get released chunked out in bits and pieces.
To me, the end result is what matters, and if there's some horngy grumbling along the way, that's just too bad.
Exactly my attitude as well. I guess you are sane!I'm over 60, and I can't tell you how many AVNs I have played or am playing. I love that naughtyroad doesn't dole it out in random-sized chunks, but in whole chapters that are narratively cohesive. Many of those on shorter update schedules I'll let 3 or 4 updates go by before resuming, just so there will actually be a reasonable amount of material added. I hate getting a new update and it only being an additional 12 minutes of gameplay. I'm sorry your health isn't the best — I'm not exactly A1 myself, but that's life — but the world (and its game updates) don't revolve around you. Sorry.
Yeah, I hope I do get enough supporters to pay my expenses to create my AVNs. If I get any more than that, "it's gravy."If support collapses, it collapses. The game isn't going to be made any other way. It can't go faster because a day only has so many hours. The whole thing is set on a fixed course really, and barring a meteor strike, it's going to arrive exactly when it's done, and no sooner. Worrying about what might happen on the sidelines is moot, really.
Thankfully, that decision is entirely not yours to make, and your opinion on the matter about as valuable as the depreciation of your keyboard during the time it took you to type it.
Wasn't the author of the Three Musketeers named Dumass? Alexander DumassWait... My GF named me at least five times today "dumbass", I thought she is just mean to me. But I'm not so sure now...
Thats a valid sign of affection. Cause a women who doesn't call you names or doesn't constantly nags you is not in love with you.Wait... My GF named me at least five times today "dumbass", I thought she is just mean to me. But I'm not so sure now...
Ok now I want to copy Dremel and try to make new lyrics for that song.
Well, even it takes until 2034, it will be more than you'll ever contribute. So if that makes me a simp, I gladly take that title. Beats being insignificant in the peanut gallery.zzzz keep waiting... this will be out in 2024... but at least it will be out, I guess that already keeps a lot of simps hoping...
I think you mean arc, although an Arch does have a beginning a middle and an endWell, that'd be the smart thing to do, financially more than anything. But story's more important to me. I want chapters to have an arch. A beginning, middle and end, that you can go through at your own pace without interruption. Doling chunks out piecemeal every x months undermines that, and it also takes away my ability to go back and tweak or completely revise something in the beginning of the chapter to support what happens in the middle or the end. So that's why it's happening this way, and that's why it'll never get released chunked out in bits and pieces.
To me, the end result is what matters, and if there's some horngy grumbling along the way, that's just too bad.