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Today 0.11 offline is ready to play? So, we cant play Max characher in this 0.11 version, but those images are in 0.11? Max, Alice, Lisa and Ann?
 

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I do believe by the end of the summer Glamour will be as popular as BB was. DS is the King of trolls, true, but he is also very creative, organized and dedicated.
It's entirely possible. I was a supporter for some of the BB time. I know a lot of supporters left when he stopped making Big Brother. At least some will likely return. In a perfect world. he'd keep his Glamour supports and regain a lot of his Big Brother supporters back, and hopefully because he earns them through a better game.

I agree with that. And they too have a right to be mad. But that game died how long ago? At that point, quit donating money to him. They aren't in that situation anymore. So completely announcing a different game is fine. Changing and merging a dead game to increase patreon is messed up.
And yeah, technically it isn't being abandoned but I suspect it will be once the influx BB supporters come in and more importantly, their money. Having them distinct and separate would have been the best route. Or maybe do the game while Max is in the Army. He comes from leave and you can have new opportunities. Maybe even have Lisa take initiative for losing her virginity when he arrives.
Yeah, having the BB reboot/remake just seems like such a better idea as an independent project. Give it it's own page, and change both games to charge per update versus every month unless he thinks he can do an update for each every month. He'll have to focus a sizable amount of attention on the BB part of the game to win back those old fans, and give them progress to keep them happy. But that will just alienate people here just for Glamour.

I think you do have a reason to be angry. But the way much of this anger is vented does not seem to be productive, but quite the opposite. It seems to be destructive.
He is stupid, he is uncreative, he is a terrible programmer, he cannot balance things... What value is added with these kinds of statements?
He is screwing his current patrons, at least many of them. That is a valid argument, and one I can agree with.
On the other hand, he is an entrepreneur who is looking to read his customers and potential customers, and has come to the conclusion that his most profitable path is using Big Brother assets, which is a a valuable part of his intellectual properties, but was unceremoniously stripped of value due to "incest" taboo.
So, patrons who are paying for his game have a legitimate beef, and I am guessing it is not because he is not creative, or he is stupid, or that he is a terrible programmer. It is because they want to buy something that he has chosen to change in ways they are not happy with. They are patrons because they like his work and want to see it going forward. They also want to have a voice in process, which is why they are supporting him.
I doubt that many of the patrons are the ones that I labelled haters. There may be some, but I tend to figure if you are passionate about something enough to spend money on it, you are probably also passionate enough to make your arguments valuable rather than destructive towards your ends. Most are probably like me, freeloaders, but instead of being grateful freeloaders, they are ungrateful ones.
I have 53 free games sitting on my desktop from this site. Acting Lessons being the first one I ever tried. Instead of being a jerk about things, I am more likely to read the text, and spend time writing up bug reports and helping with translation issues and typos. Or trying to figure out how to hack the game :).
It was clear with BB that DS didn't want to do the game, or at least an incest game that would please incest fans. He never really got the whole incest fetish, or how incest and the idea of romance could be compatible, or how it could happen without some third-party forcing it to happen versus honest seduction. It was obvious they wanted to give up on Big Brother and go back to Glamour. For them to make this decision now saws a lot. They must not be making as much money as they expected, or need to make more. Or maybe it's just fan pressure, or seeing how popular the game is a year after the last update or so. While I'm hopeful that the BB stuff in Glamour (the latter which I've never played) will fulfill that craving I've had for the last year, I suspect that it's just going to come across as another BB clone, a couple of which are in the works. The characters don't quite look the same, and supposedly incest won't be specified unless it's done via patch. Bringing Eric back will be contentious, just because there is so much hatred for him by some, and as others have pointed out, even if he is entirely skippable, people will begrudge the time spent putting him in the game, just as the Glamour people will begrudge all of the time spent on BB stuff, or how BB will likely take on an even greater emphasis in the game over time.

I wish DS the best of luck in this, because if he can pull it off I'll get another shot at replaying my favorite one of these games. But I'm suspecting it will be a frustrating ride for many people. The question is how many.
 
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It was clear with BB that DS didn't want to do the game, or at least an incest game that would please incest fans. He never really got the whole incest fetish, or how incest and the idea of romance could be compatible, or how it could happen without some third-party forcing it to happen versus honest seduction.
What are you talking about? BB was originally conceived as a game with incest. From the very beginning ...
 
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What are you talking about? BB was originally conceived as a game with incest. From the very beginning ...
It was conceived as an incest game, but DS's idea of incest needed Eric, or Kira, or Kate or someone to make it happen. Even to force it to happen. DS couldn't conceive of it happening any other way than that versus a seduction or romance method that many other games take. Early indications were that most or all of the incest in the game was going to be by Eric's permission only, or at least that's the impression I got. I even suspect that DS's definition of incest was broad enough to include watching a family member having sex versus you having sex with them. At the very least Eric was probably intended to be the catalyst for the incest, although possibly after he had sex with all of them first.

We'll have to see what approach DS takes when they merge BB into Glamour. It's already said that Eric will be done differently. Hopefully DS is motivated enough this time to cater a little more to the incest fans. It seems kind of pointless to re-do Big Brother if they don't, especially with a lot more incest games out there.
 

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It was conceived as an incest game, but DS's idea of incest needed Eric, or Kira, or Kate or someone to make it happen. Even to force it to happen. DS couldn't conceive of it happening any other way than that versus a seduction or romance method that many other games take. Early indications were that most or all of the incest in the game was going to be by Eric's permission only, or at least that's the impression I got. I even suspect that DS's definition of incest was broad enough to include watching a family member having sex versus you having sex with them. At the very least Eric was probably intended to be the catalyst for the incest, although possibly after he had sex with all of them first.

We'll have to see what approach DS takes when they merge BB into Glamour. It's already said that Eric will be done differently. Hopefully DS is motivated enough this time to cater a little more to the incest fans. It seems kind of pointless to re-do Big Brother if they don't, especially with a lot more incest games out there.
Manipulation and blackmail is the basis of BB incest (75%).
Kira - voluntarily.
Anna - the manipulation and use of Anna's disease.
Lisa - manipulation.
Alice - manipulation and blackmail.
And in the BB remake - Glamor, Max has no reason for incest. There is only his desire (desire DS).
In the remake of BB - Eric's glamor will not. There will be no need for incest. DS wants to do a BB remake - a game with incest, as originally planned.
DS likes incest, so he makes an incest based game.
(sorry for the inaccuracy: he does a BB remake)
If he had made Glamor a full-fledged game, and not part of a remake for BB, I would not care.
 
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Originally Peter and if he make fall in love in Maxim Kate and so to counter you can play 2 heroes

Изначально был Петя и если вместо него заставить влюбиться Максима в Кейт и так на противодействии можно играть 2-мя героями
 

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Look at the same situation through the eyes of Maxim or Kate
Взгляд на одну и туже ситуацию глазами Максима или Кейт
 

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It would be interesting not to play 2 different stories from the beginning on this site, but something new-1 story but with different eyes
Было бы интересно не воспроизводить 2 разные истории с начала на этой площадке, а что то новое - 1 история но разными глазами
 
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Manipulation and blackmail is the basis of BB incest (75%).
Kira - voluntarily.
Anna - the manipulation and use of Anna's disease.
Lisa - manipulation.
Alice - manipulation and blackmail.
And in the BB remake - Glamor, Max has no reason for incest. There is only his desire (desire DS).
In the remake of BB - Eric's glamor will not. There will be no need for incest. DS wants to do a BB remake - a game with incest, as originally planned.
DS likes incest, so he makes an incest based game.
(sorry for the inaccuracy: he does a BB remake)
If he had made Glamor a full-fledged game, and not part of a remake for BB, I would not care.

I'd argue that in the case of Kira it was her manipulating Max for incest, although he was definitely willing. She wanted his help to jumpstart her porn directing career and for her to finally obtain her goal of being with Anne. But I'll also admit this might just be me reading too much into the situation.

I'd say that DS wanted to make an incest game because incest was popular and a way to make money, but he has little to no interest in incest himself, and as I've said before, he's openly said that he doesn't really understand the appeal of incest. I've heard that incest won't even be acknowledged in Glamour when the BB stuff is added. I'm hoping that this is just making a nod to Patreon's rules, and that there will be a patch or mod. But I could honestly see DS just adding the characters back into the game, calling them roommates, and not taking it any further than that, which I think would be a colossal misfire.
 
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