Ren'Py Four Elements Trainer [v1.0.8c] [Mity]

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Zantei

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I'm reading conflicting replies, does 8.3a have any new content? It would be strange if it didn't.
 
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reaper1123 said:
you need to get the powder from shady, (send korra to get it for you after receiving a call from shady in your study room,
after that talk to korra who will you give you the powder and go to the statue island and talk with korra there,
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Okay, I have yet to find this study room... where would that be?

Edit: currently taking Pema on a nice "ride" in the park. I assume this will lead me to the study
 
CptRexx

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Zantei said:
I'm reading conflicting replies, does 8.3a have any new content? It would be strange if it didn't.
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It has new contents. Sex with Pema, blowjob scenes with Korra and Asami, Pussy rub with Lin and some lewd scenes with Korra and Asami.
 
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Kanio

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you know this is honestly one of my fav games of the H variety. im a starting programmer and wish i could help out just for the experience and well if i can help in the amazing games progress that be super. Just a fan speaking his mind
 
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sometimes20

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How do you access new content? I load up my save where I did everything from the previous update, but dont seem to be able to access any of the new stuff
 
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zong99 agree your each word. Moreover, I think as for devs with 20k$/month they can do something not only codewise, but to improve graphics drastically. I don't want to throw shit, there are some very good scenes/content, but some locations (i.e. with avatar's statue , streets etc.) and character graphics are awful to be honest, and there are a lot more examples. Book 2 in comparison with book 1 was something very impressive, but in my opinion starting with book 3 (and further in book 4) devs do a "quickie content". And in book 4 in my opinion amount of that "quickie content" increasing. Sadly =(
 
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Maid Lain

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zong99 said:
To shed some light into possible causes for it being a smaller update.

Codewise this game is awful. It seems whoever programmed the game had no previous experience with Python/Ren'Py or any object-oriented language or even C macros for that matter.
  • The same code for the same or similar functionality is copied over and over. If one block of code gets changed/fixed, all copied code needs to be manually changed/fixed aswell. This is very susceptible to errors and considered a bad coding practice (
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  • Way too many bugs and broken mechanics caused by bad programming. Example, every single fighting minigame in book 3 is broken. The maze minigame doesn't use your accuracy because the programmer wrote an equal comparison operator instead of an assignment operator. Evasion benefits cap at 11, so you don't need to ever spend point on it. The Pokemon crab minigame is one of the worst codes I've had the unpleasure of reading in my decades of programming experience. EVERYTHING IS BROKEN! Damage calculation, hit chance calculation, charged attacks, status effects... I won't even go into much detail about it because it's really bad and I could write several pages on just the issues with this minigame.
  • Lots and lots of redudant code that does nothing but bloat the game's code.
  • Badly designed code structures and overall really bad coding practices and mistakes.
I'd think that a minor update for a month's work is a combination of artwork, programmer lacking experience and awfully written and bloated code (likely more work needed to implement new stuff in).
I also think the developer eventually saw their limitations and went for simpler minigames for book 4 (ala Candy Crush).

I've tried to clean up some of the code to fix some issues I was facing, but eventually decided to not bother at all with these unless it's a critical one.
The game needs to be rewritten from scratch by a programmer with some experience in OOP.
According to Patreon, they are making 20k$ a month, they could very well hire a programmer for this.
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Agreed. Like this game is definitely a great game, but the programmer is seriously pretty bad at his job. It's honestly super sad knowing that this game could be even better and updates would probably be released much faster if the artist had a decent coder making the game.

It's extremely frustrating to mod this game because the code is so unreadable, bloated, and redundant like you said. Just trying to look for or understand one thing in the code sends you down an entire rabbit hole of more and more bloated code.

farm_script.rpy has a 2000 line "elif" chain because the programmer does not know what a loop is. The game takes about 15 seconds to start after you click on the exe because there's probably some stupid stuff happening in the code. No other RenPy game I've played even comes close to taking that long to start.

I know 100% that the programmer hired someone else to code the book 3 maze room stuff for him. That uses classes and I'm pretty sure the programmer does not know what a class is either.

I'm not even sure why I'm writing this. Guess I'm just venting from having to deal with all the frustrating code that makes doing simple things in the code 4 times longer than it should while modding this game because the code is just so fucked.
 
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dimrodet

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Maim Lain said:
Agreed. Like this game is definitely a great game, but the programmer is seriously pretty bad at his job. It's honestly super sad knowing that this game could be even better and updates would probably be released much faster if the artist had a decent coder making the game.

It's extremely frustrating to mod this game because the code is so unreadable, bloated, and redundant like you said. Just trying to look for or understand one thing in the code sends you down an entire rabbit hole of more and more bloated code.

farm_script.rpy has a 2000 line "elif" chain because the programmer does not know what a loop is. The game takes about 15 seconds to start after you click on the exe because there's probably some stupid stuff happening in the code. No other RenPy game I've played even comes close to taking that long to start.

I know 100% that the programmer hired someone else to code the book 3 maze room stuff for him. That uses classes and I'm pretty sure the programmer does not know what a class is either.

I'm not even sure why I'm writing this. Guess I'm just venting from having to deal with all the frustrating code that makes doing simple things in the code 4 times longer than it should while modding this game because the code is just so fucked.
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*sends virtual hug* there thought you needed a nice warm hug Lain
 
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FenrisWolfe

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So quick question what is with the Beastiality tag because I have yet to see anything like that in the game I don't really care about spoilers so just let me know.
 
APoc1

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chozenzebra said:
But they're getting 20k a month, feel like they should atleast be pushing out decent sized updates with that much
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My guess is there is a lot of mechanics that are not seen but need to be there before the actual content can be inserted into the game. Just because the update appears to be small does not mean there was not a ton of ground work that needed to be implemented without breaking what is already there.
 
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