It was more as a an example that Porn can be merged with Gameplay.
There are much easier to make Mini-Games that can work as the gameplay component.
Bored with repetative game patterns
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There are much easier to make Mini-Games that can work as the gameplay component.
It's the same thing with people complaining about politicians being this and that. Then, if they not just complain about politicians, but actually become a politician themselves, they end up becoming a politician much like everyone else.
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There are plenty of literary master pieces that you probably didn't read in the course of your education because they are erotic in nature to out right pornographic. Hell even google can manage to pull up a rather decent list of them. No I don't consider 50 shades of gray among those. There are far better authors.
As for actual porn movies there are a number of good ones with good plots and even decent acting.
I generally think there are people who use an opinion like yours to excuse crap products and work.
I'm also not saying every single game is bad or the rate of bad games is really any worse than regular literature. Hell, I can't count the number of books I read a few chapters of and just through it the fuck away because the author suck ass. Some times I am just wondering what fucking moron at a publishing company reviewed the crap and figured this was good to print, or who the fuck they slept with or paid off.
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Pause: WhY DoN't YoU MaKe YoUr OwN GaMe ThEn?!?
Where dem type of comments?
Where dem type of comments?
Diconica
I am a bit curious. By your post, you seem to be a lover of story games (well-made stories that is) and with covid you have had time to play most games. And I assume you played the games that have story as focus.
So, which game have you actually played?
My game is not a top game in the overall market here, far from it, but it is one of the more well-known games among the story lovers out there (liking or disliking it is another matter)
So, I assume you played my game? If so, I can't see any of your points getting close to anything in my own game. If you haven't, shouldn't you have tried to play more story games before making a post like this?
Games such as CoBD by Phillygames are also one game that heavy emphasize the story . I do not see that game has any of the faults you mention in your post.
Heavy five, Love And Magic, and a lot of more games that have some original stories in em.
So, which games are you actually using as an example here? I need to be very clear on one thing. I am a heavy fighter against people that demand more sexual content in-story games. The playerbase of mine knows that very well (Filius heh)
But, I also am not a fan of asking for more story (or high polished storylines and character depth) in a game which focus is just to have people get a nice fap.
Summertime saga is not aiming to write a compelling story. Milfy City is not trying to win over the people with realistic events but more 'boys fantasy'. Stuff that does not make sense and would never happen in real life. But the devs of games like those never aimed for that. They wanted to make games that were fun and easy to fap to. And they did just that.
Your statement is too broad. What games/styles/genres are you talking about? The one that focuses on the fap? Well, they do not try or even claim to have an in-depth story and character depth. The story games such as mine and others? Well, we cannot agree with your points if those are aimed at our games.
I am a bit curious. By your post, you seem to be a lover of story games (well-made stories that is) and with covid you have had time to play most games. And I assume you played the games that have story as focus.
So, which game have you actually played?
My game is not a top game in the overall market here, far from it, but it is one of the more well-known games among the story lovers out there (liking or disliking it is another matter)
So, I assume you played my game? If so, I can't see any of your points getting close to anything in my own game. If you haven't, shouldn't you have tried to play more story games before making a post like this?
Games such as CoBD by Phillygames are also one game that heavy emphasize the story . I do not see that game has any of the faults you mention in your post.
Heavy five, Love And Magic, and a lot of more games that have some original stories in em.
So, which games are you actually using as an example here? I need to be very clear on one thing. I am a heavy fighter against people that demand more sexual content in-story games. The playerbase of mine knows that very well (Filius heh)
But, I also am not a fan of asking for more story (or high polished storylines and character depth) in a game which focus is just to have people get a nice fap.
Summertime saga is not aiming to write a compelling story. Milfy City is not trying to win over the people with realistic events but more 'boys fantasy'. Stuff that does not make sense and would never happen in real life. But the devs of games like those never aimed for that. They wanted to make games that were fun and easy to fap to. And they did just that.
Your statement is too broad. What games/styles/genres are you talking about? The one that focuses on the fap? Well, they do not try or even claim to have an in-depth story and character depth. The story games such as mine and others? Well, we cannot agree with your points if those are aimed at our games.
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Two mentions in one thread? We'd better be careful - at this rate, people might start playing the bloody thing
Well I've been trying to keep from actually listing names in the thread so to avoid it hurting any authors feelings. Or having people focus to much on any one game.
There are a good number to list also.
I think a picture might be easier to answer that. That's just one directory also games that I have no longer any interest in are removed. I keep the compressed file after I am done playing of one's I like so I don't need to down load them again if I choose to replay them.
I'm not referring to one genre because the issue is systemic across all of the genre. The issue is more related to the way people are developing that what they are developing. The same issues can be found in all of them. The only reason to associate a connection with what I am saying to one of them is because of my choice of examples.
The way you refer to fantasy is shallow. I can get that aspect if your teen male character run around town and is driven purely by write then and there instincts of wanting to bone the female at that moment. That's not really a fantasy though that's just hormonal drive. Fantasy is when you imagine something that isn't probable or you want to achieve. A better example of fantasy would be the male who strives to have a harem or even just one woman he sees as difficult to attain. Or maybe his goal is to have as many sexual encounters with women over that summer as possible ... The point is there is something to strive for. Its in the definition of fantasy.
As for summer time Saga I couldn't stand the game play mechanics of the day being broken up into sections that makes simple shit take unrealistic amounts of time. Milfy City has similar mechanics in that regard. Both however are story based. The freedom you have in both games is limited you have to do various things for the story to progress along. So I don't get how you say those games are not focusing on story. They don't really have a clear ending of the story or goal set as of yet that I can remember. Both seem to be more of a telling of a story of what happened over a period of time.
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A lot of devs look at other games and take a look what makes money and decide by that or they go with their own preferences. Then on the other hand you have the fappers erm potential customers who often complain if they have to read too much, complain when a story is too complex for them to grasp. There are enough games out there with a good story that have barely any support. So why bother and write a proper story if you can have half assed story's and make loads of money?
The problem is only that most of these newer games aren't just lacking in story but also in the quality of content in other departments.
The problem is only that most of these newer games aren't just lacking in story but also in the quality of content in other departments.
We devs get our fair share of hate. And the higher you get up in the popularity of the games the more frequent the hate becomes. So, you shouldn't be afraid to hurt any devs.
They're used to it.
With a quick look - none of the games I mentioned was among your list. In fact, the majority of those games are sex first and story second.
And I think herein lies the problem and why you don't play the story focused game yet want story-focused games.
You see all the games as the same. There are no preferences, no genres, no nothing. Every game must be how you want it to be. The issues you speak of are more issues related to your own preferences than actual issues.
Sure, there may be games that copy-paste others. Some games that lack originality and reuse the same incest 'template'. But to take all games and lump them together is another matter.
You're mixing things up. Sexual fantasy is different from other kinds of fantasy.
Sexual fantasy, especially male's sexual fantasy, is most commonly about females doing things they wouldn't ordinarily do. Not about this epic adventure and strive of the main protagonist.
Does that mean that it can't be more in-depth or be as you described? Of course, it can. But it is just another way of doing it. not the only way. Also, no that is not the definition of fantasy...
noun
noun: fantasy
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the faculty or activity of imagining impossible or improbable things.
"his researches had moved into the realms of fantasy"
And no one can fault you for not being able to stand the gameplay of those games. On any games for that matter. But what does your personal preferences and likes have to do with anything?
And just saying they are story-based does not make it true.
They are great games. I enjoy them. But It is laughable to say they are story-based. The story is a means to forward the sexual content. That's the only purpose of the story. To move along the wheels enough to add more sexual content. To be able to add a bit more character depth to make the sexual content more alluring. That's the only purpose of it.
Story base content is different. The main goal of the story is not to drive forward the sexual content but the actual story.
My game has no sex in it. It is only the story (and characters) that makes people play it. Same with many of the other story-focused games. You can take the adult stuff out and it would still have a coherent story and make it enjoyable.
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I think there are two main issues with your opinions.
1. you see all the games as the same no matter their style and genres. Therefore you expect that all the games must be made in a specific way regarding what the dev intent it to be. (Sexual focused or story focused)
2. You have a hard time differencing between sexual-focused content and story-focused content. There are games that do both very well. But the majority of the devs have a focus area. The fact that you can see summertime saga and Milfy City as story-focused games simply because there is a bit of story in it.
That be like saying Mr. Bean is an epic drama with a high level of storytelling because there is a bit of story in it.
The games you mentioned were one's I already removed because I lost interest in them.
As for sexual fantasy vs fantasy in general. I'd say it depends on the person.
Doing things females wouldn't ordinarily do. You'd have to define that. Some guys would say that's stuff like doing anal. Japan well it might be sticking a fish up their pussy or fucking a dog.
I have no interest in the later ones listed. As for my sexual fantasies well they tend to involve a good bit more than getting her to do a certain sex act. I was a teen the last time a woman didn't want to do what I wanted. Since then I learned a lot. I have more issues with women out of the bedroom than in it. Seriously, the last time I thought it would be a great thing to suck her tits, fondle them, eat her out, fuck her.... you no simple minded crap I was in middle school to high school. I kind of doubt most adult males are at that level. Well maybe metro males kind of would explain why so many younger men are still virgins these days and can't approach and talk to a female for shit. Well then again you might be right given the way things are a lot of guys are stuck in the little boy thought mode. Fucking funny never thought of it till now explains a lot. Their like a bunch of little child. ROFL.
Sorry, laughing to much right now. Fuck. I'll try to remember to finish answering this later.
So you lost interest in story-focused games. Play only sex-focused games and complain that they focus too much on the sex and not on the story? Am I right on this?
What was it about the games I mentioned that you didn't like. None of these contains any of the points you complained about in your OP so it must have been worse than that.
"Doing things females wouldn't ordinarily do. You'd have to define that."
You made a statement that was false and hence I copy-pasted factual data on what the definition of it was. You can't ask me to define what is already defined.
Well, my experience is a bit different. It is usually the virgins that have a twisted view of how sex is in reality. Where they think that real sex resembles how it is in porn movies/games. The poor females, that had to deal with that, knows that is far from how reality is.
Porn is not meant to be realistic (tho it can ofc be made realistically). Many people, not just young people, sometimes want the silly experience. Silly events that lead to unrealistic sex scenes.
Even the more serious porn stories usually have unrealistic events happening for the sake of arousal.
Also, you keep using yourself as an example to justify your points which is not how reality is.
"I have no interest..."
"As for my sexual fantasies..."
"I was a teen the last time..."
"to do what I wanted..."
"I have more issues..."
"I thought it would be..."
"I learned a lot..."
"I was in..."
"I want..."
"I..."
"I..."
And just going to copy-paste my last comment here;
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Hmm, rather than developers and all that I always thought that the player base is the biggest issue in everything. I mean, it must be annoying as fk to make everything optional so that people don't see content they dislike and then have to take it into account for future scenes.
Personally I believe that we will come into the best adult games when we as players can get a bit of tolerance for fetishes we dislike and just skip them, unless it's an extreme hate that you have against that fetish, in that case just skip the game.
But well, this is just an opinion.
Personally I believe that we will come into the best adult games when we as players can get a bit of tolerance for fetishes we dislike and just skip them, unless it's an extreme hate that you have against that fetish, in that case just skip the game.
But well, this is just an opinion.
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I think there is an over saturation in the market currently. Water, water everywhere but not a drop to drink. But generally speaking the quality isn't great. One thing I can say is if you look at what sells, a certain basketball game that's not about basketball for example, that is the future. "Walk on Water Porn" as I call it. I hate it but a TON of people love is and good for them and that dev, but that is where the market will go and I don't blame any dev for going there. This is an expensive hobby/business and if you want a return, make "Walk on Water Porn". Lot's of games on here with depth NEVER get tehe support and they get abandoned. People just want feel good stuff these days and god bless whatever gets you off.
You think you aren't getting much depth or quality now? Wait, you're about to get a lot less as people look to that basketball game and see the cash cow that it is and go to replicate it.
You think you aren't getting much depth or quality now? Wait, you're about to get a lot less as people look to that basketball game and see the cash cow that it is and go to replicate it.
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That's a 100% correct!
The majority of people don't want a great story, they don't care about quality, they want fap material, lots of girls, quick updates. That's where the money sits, and that's - of course - where most devs will go.
Look at which games are at the top spot in the community, it's either pure fap-material with lots of easy to get girls and simple story, or games where the dev is doing quality stuff for a loooong long time already. There's basically nothing in between.
Maybe, my wording of it created the confusion.
There are many different types of stories. Milf City & Summertime are similar in nature both cover events that happen over a period of time. That's like reading the news paper each day to me boring as hell. It isn't like a character that has a greater quest of some kind, there is no great struggle or anything. I mean add a goal to it that is the overlying story. Raise money to buy a car, take a trip over seas, get grades up for college, help the family pay for home, pay for your own schooling.... Something that ties the story more together and is the primary struggle and all the rest of the stuff fills in as part of how it is accomplished.
Summertime lists a few like that raising money for college is one, mystery around fathers death, and prom date. However, playing the game and its mechanics is unbearable. Take the something as simple as a teacher saying to see her after class. When class ends you can't do that at all no matter what. You are forced into other crap. With the French teacher you are kicked out of the school and end up talking to the neighbor. You can talk to her the next day. You can't however on the same day bring up the subject of tutoring and you sure as hell can't see her in her office as she says to in the conversation. Chemistry teacher same issue it turns into night time you are kicked out of the school. All this because they chose this idiotic 3 part day systems and then force you into some stuff. Also you are supposed to have gone back on the second day to help the the lady with the garden again per the conversation. But you can't. You end up mowing the law to help with chores spend a $100 on a gas can and gas. Then you go to school. The point is the game mechanics screw with the dialog. Trying to deal with that shit through out the game is not worth my time it irritates the fuck out of me and takes any enjoyment at all I had in the game and crushes it.
Yea, sorry. This is based on my point of view haven't quite learned to read other people's minds and write from their point of view yet. I know I should take a pole of people and see what they think. Then list out their response. Or maybe I could just post my view point and other people could chime in and say their views. O'yeah hold on I did that!