Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.05 Dev] [Vénus Noire]

[Rein]

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[Rein]

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[errte13]

Sound like some cheater hogwash

 

[Limited20]

It's actually the opposite, if you had played it just a few scenes more you'd be able to show her that Andras has been lying and manipulating her all along, and she'll start to hate him. Afterwards you can make it so that she'll react negatively to him every time he tries to put the moves on her.

Wow .... well then, Im gonna give it another go. I was trying to find some spoilers online since I like the story of this game.
In my playthrough Im going for loyal Rowan and Alexia, so it was kinda sad to see Alexia flirt with Andras and not rejecting his advances.

 

[Limited20]

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This is called "Alpha seed, Beta need"

Woman having this mindset are emotionally damaged.
The most common cause for this is promiscuity. Having too many sexual partners. Because of this, the woman can no longer emotionally connect with her "loved one"(She can no longer pair bond).

The most common example for women with this mindset, is when they no longer want to have "fun" and now they are looking for a serious relationship. They find a good man, and a few months in the relationship they simply find their "loved one" boring. He no longer gives her butterflies in the stomach(the excitement is gone). So now she is off to find dick somewhere else while trying to keep her current relationship going, because she likes the comfort from her "loved one" .....

The comment that you posted from that woman "Big dick energy is understanding that sometimes your girl needs some new dick but still loves you" is a simple shaming tactic in order to normalize such behaviour.

 

[Rein]

Guys.

Guys.

 

[diebesgrab]

Wow .... well then, Im gonna give it another go. I was trying to find some spoilers online since I like the story of this game.
In my playthrough Im going for loyal Rowan and Alexia, so it was kinda sad to see Alexia flirt with Andras and not rejecting his advances.

The intro was written a long time ago now, and I think the full scale of the game may not yet have been entirely comprehended at the time, so the NTR subplot moves a bit faster there than the rest of the game, even if you have NTR on and are pursuing that path.

You also have to remember that Alexia during the intro has no idea what Rowan is up to, knows she’s part of a trap for him, and wants to keep him safe. She’s torn between wanting to be reunited with him and hoping he never shows up so that he doesn’t fall into the twins’ grasp. Andras is also being exceptionally kind to her during this period and the intro lasts months, so she’s responding to him in a friendly manner. If you don’t pursue the NTR path in the intro, it doesn’t really go very far beyond that.

Regardless, the intro is one of the things slated to be rewritten at some point, so it’ll doubtless be retooled to match the pacing of the rest of the game better.

 

[Mergen1]

There was no scene of Alexia having sex with futa/trans in the library, there are images that show that this is the case. only Alexia powers who appeared

 

[Drexelhand]

That feeling when you want the Andras event to be finished in time for the update... but the knowledge that if you wait, the CGs might be done with it for the next update in two months. These truly are... the Seeds of Chaos...

HEEYYYYYYYYY

 

[Limited20]

The intro was written a long time ago now, and I think the full scale of the game may not yet have been entirely comprehended at the time, so the NTR subplot moves a bit faster there than the rest of the game, even if you have NTR on and are pursuing that path.

You also have to remember that Alexia during the intro has no idea what Rowan is up to, knows she’s part of a trap for him, and wants to keep him safe. She’s torn between wanting to be reunited with him and hoping he never shows up so that he doesn’t fall into the twins’ grasp. Andras is also being exceptionally kind to her during this period and the intro lasts months, so she’s responding to him in a friendly manner. If you don’t pursue the NTR path in the intro, it doesn’t really go very far beyond that.

Regardless, the intro is one of the things slated to be rewritten at some point, so it’ll doubtless be retooled to match the pacing of the rest of the game better.

Gave it another go, played for about 2 hours.
After the intro, there are no more flirtings and advances. Alexia has only spoken to the Minotaur and it was chill, nothing sexual, no flirts, no advances, simple talk so we get to know the characters. Hope it stays this way for the rest of the game.

The NTR atmosphere from the intro felt bad. The ntr undertone was heavy because Alexia did not even try to reject the flirts and advances xD . Andras even touched and kissed her, and she just blushed ...... not being angry at him or anything.



Its good that they plan to rework the intro. Hope they rewrite some of Alexias lines in the early game too. Because even with NTR OFF, the dialog suggest that Alexia is not loyal. The writing simply ignores if any NTR/cheating happened or not.
Best example I can give for this is an early sex scene Rowan x Alexia in the castle. After the sex, Rowan tells her that "They should do this again tomorrow or next week" , and then Alexia says "...maybe if I can fit you in my schedule" (along those lines, forgot her entire sentence), She is basically telling him to wait in line, that he has to wait for his turn again lol (my face typing this "lol")

 

[diebesgrab]

Gave it another go, played for about 2 hours.
After the intro, there are no more flirtings and advances. Alexia has only spoken to the Minotaur and it was chill, nothing sexual, no flirts, no advances, simple talk so we get to know the characters. Hope it stays this way for the rest of the game.

The NTR atmosphere from the intro felt bad. The ntr undertone was heavy because Alexia did not even try to reject the flirts and advances xD . Andras even touched and kissed her, and she just blushed ...... not being angry at him or anything.



Its good that they plan to rework the intro. Hope they rewrite some of Alexias lines in the early game too. Because even with NTR OFF, the dialog suggest that Alexia is not loyal. The writing simply ignores if any NTR/cheating happened or not.
Best example I can give for this is an early sex scene Rowan x Alexia in the castle. After the sex, Rowan tells her that "They should do this again tomorrow or next week" , and then Alexia says "...maybe if I can fit you in my schedule" (along those lines, forgot her entire sentence), She is basically telling him to wait in line, that he has to wait for his turn again lol (my face typing this "lol")

Not telling you what to like or not like, but it feels like you’re being kinda oversensitive. Alexia never strikes me as wanting to betray Rowan in the intro unless you actually make the relevant choice there. Even then she’s disillusioned with Andras before she even realizes he’s lied to her, and the only reason she really considers doing it is because she thinks it could help Rowan.

Not saying if you make that choice she’s totally cold to Andras, just that she’s mostly thinking of Rowan the entire time, and not going “hurr hurr forget that cuck hurr”—and again, that’s if she takes the “disloyal” option, so she seems even less interested if she takes the “loyal” option.

Regarding the situation with Rowan and “schedules” you’re talking about, I’m not sure which event you’re referring to and I don’t have full context, but I would guess anything like that was said either in jest or because you’re past the point where Alexia actually does have work. The NTR paths haven’t progressed to the point where she’s getting off on blatantly cucking Rowan even if you take them, let alone if you don’t.

 

[Rivina]

Big dick energy is having NTR mode on, but still making Andras and Jezera have to beat off every night because they're not getting any love despite their position of 'power'.

 

[dhuemnptai]

[...] then Alexia says "...maybe if I can fit you in my schedule" (along those lines, forgot her entire sentence), She is basically telling him to wait in line, that he has to wait for his turn again lol (my face typing this "lol")

If I remember this scene right, it was more of a joke or banter between the two. We see them being flirty and light hearted together quite a lot of times.

 

[Mmushy]

Methinks you are taking things too literally.
I read it as banter, a joke and I am 100% sure that's what it is.
It's like saying "get out of here". You are not telling someone to literally get out. This is a common idiomatic phrase to express disbelief

 

[diebesgrab]

Methinks you are taking things too literally.
I read it as banter, a joke and I am 100% sure that's what it is.
It's like saying "get out of here". You are not telling someone to literally get out. This is a common idiomatic phrase to express disbelief

Most of the time, anyway.

 

[rivon]

Guys.

Guys.

How to exist without DRAMA!
AND Virtual grill in fantasy non existent world CHEAT (may be not sure but PARANOID) on ME!!!!!
REEEEEEEeeeeeeEEe

 

[Etheric]

Not telling you what to like or not like, but it feels like you’re being kinda oversensitive. Alexia never strikes me as wanting to betray Rowan in the intro unless you actually make the relevant choice there. Even then she’s disillusioned with Andras before she even realizes he’s lied to her, and the only reason she really considers doing it is because she thinks it could help Rowan.

Not saying if you make that choice she’s totally cold to Andras, just that she’s mostly thinking of Rowan the entire time, and not going “hurr hurr forget that cuck hurr”—and again, that’s if she takes the “disloyal” option, so she seems even less interested if she takes the “loyal” option.

Regarding the situation with Rowan and “schedules” you’re talking about, I’m not sure which event you’re referring to and I don’t have full context, but I would guess anything like that was said either in jest or because you’re past the point where Alexia actually does have work. The NTR paths haven’t progressed to the point where she’s getting off on blatantly cucking Rowan even if you take them, let alone if you don’t.

I think you are wasting your time trying to convince him since he seems way too sensitive over NTR stuff. The game barely has any sense of progression in the paths that exist neither impact on the couple relationship to begin with. I still waiting for the devs actually start progressing the paths...

 

[Limited20]

Not telling you what to like or not like, but it feels like you’re being kinda oversensitive. Alexia never strikes me as wanting to betray Rowan in the intro unless you actually make the relevant choice there. Even then she’s disillusioned with Andras before she even realizes he’s lied to her, and the only reason she really considers doing it is because she thinks it could help Rowan.

Not saying if you make that choice she’s totally cold to Andras, just that she’s mostly thinking of Rowan the entire time, and not going “hurr hurr forget that cuck hurr”—and again, that’s if she takes the “disloyal” option, so she seems even less interested if she takes the “loyal” option.

Regarding the situation with Rowan and “schedules” you’re talking about, I’m not sure which event you’re referring to and I don’t have full context, but I would guess anything like that was said either in jest or because you’re past the point where Alexia actually does have work. The NTR paths haven’t progressed to the point where she’s getting off on blatantly cucking Rowan even if you take them, let alone if you don’t.

I disagree with you for the intro. Feels Alxia is falling for Andras through the whole intro. Yes, she thinks of Rowan but has grown comfortable with Andras. And you can see her wavering. At one hand she thinks for Rowan, but on the other hand she is trying to find an excuse to get in bed with Andras. At least thats how it feels. She thinks that by sleeping with Andras, he would spare Rowan or go easy on him.
You are right tho, in her own twisted way she wants to help Rowan.

About the early dialog with Rowan and Alexia, yeah I returned to an old save and its more banter than anything rly. I have yet to assign Alexia to do anything, idk when that is suppose to happen. She just chills in Rowans room all day.

 

[errte13]

In the intro, she does not come across as trying to get in Andras' pants, rather she did feel lonely in he prison and Andras gives her a much needed companionship, as the demon is very gentle to her in her less than ideal situation.

 

[Limited20]

In the intro, she does not come across as trying to get in Andras' pants, rather she did feel lonely in he prison and Andras gives her a much needed companionship, as the demon is very gentle to her in her less than ideal situation.

Yeah at first thier dialog was straightforward. And I agree, it more to do with Andras fake gentle manipulation than anything.
But you can see her wavering.Even when she thinks of Rowan. She is unsure if she wants Rowan to come at all. One one hand its a trap for Rowan, and the other hand ..... in the end she only considers giving herself to ANdras in order to help Rowan, but still. Her thinking this way feels like trying to find an excuse xd

And later when Andras says he will be leaving and wont be back anytime soon, she is hurt by that and wants to talk to him more, wants his company. And you are right, this is because she feels lonely. But come on ...... these demons kidnapped you, hurt your husband, destroyed your village, and are luring you husband into a trap of some sort. Yet she buys this fake gentle manipulation and is starting to catch feelings for the demon