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frozenfeet

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(And game don't make any scene to me with ntr mia can have sex with other guys but if MCs does the same she leaves mc wow )
Yeah I hate that shit. If you can do it so can I.

I'd like to see it reworked too. But I'd like to be able to be in an romance with Mia not someone who doesn't really care about Mia and just wants to fuck every woman he sees and doesn't care about Mia's feelings. And I want her to feel the same way.
 
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RustyRug

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The button in the top right isn't working for me and I have the bonus content on. Does anyone know why?
 

TheSidewinder

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Conviction07 I can't tell whether or not you're on the dev team for this VN, but if you are (or have the ear of the dev)....

Quite a few people have reported that both the red button in upper right, and the circular icon on the right side of the screen, are broken. They appear, but clicking them does nothing even when bonus content is ON. And they're right, the buttons aren't working.

EDIT: Editing to point out that it appears the walkthrough mod from the OP is causing this. If you extract the game and use the bonus content code from the OP, without adding the mod, those buttons work. If you extract the game, then just add the mod, the buttons do not work (even though the main menu says bonus content is on).
 
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AL.d

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Well the ones who set that metric and measure are the devs and what they promise of course. Nobody else in the end and yeah a game will find its audience, but would you as a dev really feel your game was a success if that was not the audience you wanted to target and promised a game to? Well also that is a choice for the devs. :)

You may well be right about the aunt and even if you are wrong it might be smart idea for the devs to make her route that way now, since after those two scenes (part of) the audience for such a romance route will not be interested in a romance route with her anyway, making a more corrupt route with her likely reach more audience as a romance route for the work put in.
I don't see games as promised to a specific audience. Nobody promised me anything, especially on this site. To do so would be entitlement.

Unless they are games meant to cater to a specific fetish and they don't deliver on that. So if a harem game has only one character with sex scenes, it obviously fails its core concept. Or if an incest game has no related characters and no way to have that in the game it obviously fails at its purpose. I don't see any of that in this one.

Also being in a threesome in the past doesn't indicate any kind of "corrupt" route :LOL:. A character being adventurous in the past doesn't mean they will start offering bjs for 5 bucks in some dark alley....Of course it may have routes like that judging from dev's previous game but this seems a bit more realistic.
 

DA22

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I don't see games as promised to a specific audience. Nobody promised me anything, especially on this site. To do so would be entitlement.

Unless they are games meant to cater to a specific fetish and they don't deliver on that. So if a harem game has only one character with sex scenes, it obviously fails its core concept. Or if an incest game has no related characters and no way to have that in the game it obviously fails at its purpose. I don't see any of that in this one.

Also being in a threesome in the past doesn't indicate any kind of "corrupt" route :LOL:. A character being adventurous in the past doesn't mean they will start offering bjs for 5 bucks in some dark alley....Of course it may have routes like that judging from dev's previous game but this seems a bit more realistic.
Well I would not be surprised after those two scenes that falling for auntie is a path that will either lead to failing to get back with Mia or a route where MC and Mia fuck anything and everything, just it is not a good start for a romantic one on one relation with auntie for players that would be most interested in playing such a route if that is the intention. :p

Now what the devs intentions are with this game, I am not a part of their planning meetings. Like I said before if they want to set up auntie as a sexual beast that will reasonably easily fuck anything and loves sex with more as one man at the same time, they succeeded quite well. :p If she was intended as a serious love interest that set up might become a bit of a problem though, if she is just there for wild sex and/or a fail on Mia path well then it kinda fits even if those two scenes are not my kink as such.
 
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tlarsen

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Ok i don't understand those who are mad about the Aunt's past but i can those who are annoyed about the fact Mia was ok having fun with others herself but then left after she found out the Mc had done same
 

Batdog

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There will be various endings, but Mia is a big part of the game, so if you don't like her, then it might not be for you. Having said that, she definitely won't be a boring character.

Can't answer that for sure, but I don't really understand how it would be a deal breaker either way.
If I may give feedback not related to NTR...I was thinking with the Strip Club possibilities there are two ways to go about the story and not just with a good ending with pure Mia and a bad ending with Mia abandoning you. But with a pure loving ending and a pornified harem ending. An ending where Mia, Grace, Cindy, and his GF work at the strip club run by the MC. I don't know if you plan to go that way but I'd love that type of ending.
 
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DA22

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Ok i don't understand those who are mad about the Aunt's past but i can those who are annoyed about the fact Mia was ok having fun with others herself but then left after she found out the Mc had done same
It is not about being mad, just some people might have hoped for a more romantic path with her and well I suspect most of those people lost that hope or the will after those two scenes to have such a path with her.

Not everyone considers a woman that has a trend of having sex with more as two males at same time or fantasizes about it and tells you as someone you should get in a relation with. Just as that someone that is not a sub, would not really be enthused to get into a relation with a woman that was more or less a domina in her past relations. Now for someone that is a sub it would be a plus, for others it would not.
 

JJJ84

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Some people seem to be disappointed with the update (with the slow progression reasoning) but I actually quite liked it.

I normally prefer the adult games where girls get fleshed out quite a bit as characters before they actually jump on MC (not dissing on the first game, but I still think the writing is much better than SwM1).
But I guess those people just feel differently (shrugs).
 

lkta

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Conviction07 I can't tell whether or not you're on the dev team for this VN, but if you are (or have the ear of the dev)....

Quite a few people have reported that both the red button in upper right, and the circular icon on the right side of the screen, are broken. They appear, but clicking them does nothing even when bonus content is ON. And they're right, the buttons aren't working.
Both worked fine for me, red button makes people naked/in underwear, arrows generally show the same scene from 3/4 additional angles. Don't really like these as a feature to be honest and no idea why devs bother. Just seems to be a waste of time slowing down development by making 3/4 extra renders for each scene.

There are an additional 60 or so images used in this way on this update alone (counted 56 but think i missed a few), would rather have an extra scene or two instead of this.

*Edit : Just noticed they have actually been added to ep 1 too. Looks like there are just under 200 images in total used for the red button & the arrows across the whole game now
 
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d_pedestrian

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The character of aunt is ruined for me. I am a vanilla guy and i guess almost every vanilla guy will never be able to get romantically involved with Grace after hearing her stories.

Now I don't know the target audience for this game but the writer of this game said countless times here in f95 and discord even before the 1st episode came out that there won't be any NTR. now these past stories aren't NTR but they provoke the jealousy and uncomfortableness like NTR scenes and these are such scenes which will be mostly enjoyed by NTR fans. These scenes are avoidable for sure but even without hearing those stories it was already established what a slut she was in her past.

There are only 2 ways I'll even consider having sex with her

1)MC dominates her and don't go so lovey dovey.
2)Gracie was lying this whole time and she was just trying to look like a cool aunt(less likely)

The only reason why i don't like those avoidable scenes are because those are the only sex scenes so far. Waiting for so long and getting scenes which I and most of the NTR haters gonna ignore, who are the target audience, is frustrating. If this gonna have more sex scenes involving NPCs just for the sake of having sex scenes in each update then this game isn't pleasing its target audience.

I usually immerse myself in every game i play and then knowing the character i was most interested in is a slut was saddening to me.
 

Malicre

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I just finished the first episode and i didn't see any NTR and i had NTR options turned on and i tried to choose every NTR option and still got nothing outside mia sucking the bestfriends / fathers dick so im kinda confused why people say episode 1 had a lot of NTR? Also i feel for Mia, she had to deal with a rapist brother and then she fell in love without someone she shouldn't have and i can't wait to start the next episode and meet best girl Grace.

Personally i think the MC suffers from the same addiction his mom does and that's why he acts the way he acts and will never have a stable relationship.
 
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Ranting Old Man

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Summer with mia 1 have forced ntr with mia
If you turn off the ntr
Then it will just don't show you the scenes
But they still happen in the game

And that's what I'm saying developer should rework on that and make then completely avoidable for players

(And game don't make any scene to me with ntr mia can have sex with other guys but if MCs does the same she leaves mc wow )

Yeah I never thought of it that way but still, I don't recall Mia sleeping around a bunch, did we play different games? I remember MCs friend forcing her to give a BJ against her Will and a scene where she was basically coerced into a bj with her father. What are people seeing that I'm not? None of those things are things Mia actually wanted as far as I can remember.
 
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linkinn

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Yeah I never thought of it that way but still, I don't recall Mia sleeping around a bunch, did we play different games? I remember MCs friend forcing her to give a BJ against her Will and a scene where she was basically coerced into a bj with her father. What are people seeing that I'm not? None of those things are things Mia actually wanted as far as I can remember.
People that aren't informed and think side-stories are canon most likely.

But lets drop the discussion on NTR, its already settled and there is none on the sequel. If its really needed to discuss the first game just go to SWM1 thread.
 

juan palote

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Question, is this game a sandbox like the first one?

I dont like sandbox so i skipped the previous game, does this game requires knowing the story from the previous one?=
 

Malicre

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I just started playing episode 2 and mia has a new boyfriend whos a "musician" and i just couldn't stop myself from laughing. Poor Mia about to get fucked over again and i can already tell Vivian is going to be another Emma.
 
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