Ren'Py Abandoned Vis [v2.0] [Mad King Games]

[Crimsonfiend76]

Sandbox with quest log is a better combination than ....... VN's where mc's hands and legs are restrained

I for one loved the prologue and story so much I couldn't wait to support on Patreon, but despite the initial implementation of the sandbox features, is it absolutely necessary/optional to play those mind-numbing resource management features in order to advance the story or can we just pretend those features don't exist and attempt to play the gothic, choice driven VN I grew to love?

 

[Macinnes]

Man, this game was awesome as a VN and then the Dev slams the brakes on and drops a sandbox. I go from digging into every line of tex totally immersed in the action to boom, staring at a fucking screen and watching numbers SLOOOOOWLY tick by. I even fell asleep for an hour while this was going on. Way to muck up a great VN. If I wanted to play a city management SIM I'd go play CIV or something like it. I'm gonna hold out hope that it will improve even with the sandbox, but I'm super sceptical and disappointed at the moment.

One more thing, the name of the follower of Lilith was changed from Darya to Ava during the 3 way scene with the M/C and Morrigan. It was confusing since the original Ava was the M/C's trainer until Morrigan took action.

 

[Rory Smith]

Man, this game was awesome as a VN and then the Dev slams the brakes on and drops a sandbox. I go from digging into every line of tex totally immersed in the action to boom, staring at a fucking screen and watching numbers SLOOOOOWLY tick by. I even fell asleep for an hour while this was going on. Way to muck up a great VN. If I wanted to play a city management SIM I'd go play CIV or something like it. I'm gonna hold out hope that it will improve even with the sandbox, but I'm super sceptical and disappointed at the moment.

that problem can be solved by adding a proper quest log. Sandbox or not, production takes time
i think u should play "vae victis & lord king"

 

[Aiphaton]

where can i find the city expansion?

found, in the societal edicts you have to scroll down

 

[Thumper27]

Honest opinion, The sandbox portion could and should have been made to stand alone (deeper immersion, alternate story arcs, whatever) vs dropping it into the VN at this point.
My biggest concern is not even how it breaks up the story (which it does even if temporary), but what happens when saves don't work? (We have all seen it at least once)
Starting a VN over from the beginning because of coding, rewrite, etc. is one thing. Depending on the time between updates, I usually go back at least a few "chapters" and reread anyway ... but grinding through several hours of strategy/ resource management just to get to the next chapter ......... Nah, I'm good.
If it had started as sandbox my opinion may have been different but .....

 

[Rory Smith]

found, in the societal edicts you have to scroll down

Thanks for info.

 

[Rory Smith]

Honest opinion, The sandbox portion could and should have been made to stand alone (deeper immersion, alternate story arcs, whatever) vs dropping it into the VN at this point.
My biggest concern is not even how it breaks up the story (which it does even if temporary), but what happens when saves don't work? (We have all seen it at least once)
Starting a VN over from the beginning because of coding, rewrite, etc. is one thing. Depending on the time between updates, I usually go back at least a few "chapters" and reread anyway ... but grinding through several hours of strategy/ resource management just to get to the next chapter ......... Nah, I'm good.
If it had started as sandbox my opinion may have been different but .....

Sandbox with quest log is a better combination than ...... VN's where mc's hands and legs are restrained. Sandbox or not production need time

 

[Rory Smith]

Another thing Ima add is that we for sure need day to week skips cuz this is way to slow like I'm pretty sure there might be time events like a sudden love interest or and enemy invasion so I can see how it's a little more work but it'll for sure make this game more playable

Increasing timer speed not enough ??

 

[Larry2000]

Sandbox with quest log is a better combination than ...... VN's where mc's hands and legs are restrained. Sandbox or not production need time

Why are you spamming this comment over and over? Just point to your post and be done with it. Don't reply to others saying the same thing.
EDIT: OR, DON'T. You aren't the Dev.

 

[Rory Smith]

Why are you spamming this comment over and over? Just point to your post and be done with it. Don't reply to others saying the same thing.
EDIT: OR, DON'T. You aren't the Dev.

Because i can't remain silent when VN fans crucifying sandbox system

 

[AnimeHentaiGamer]

i really hate this game once it becomes management game. i can't seem to get anything to happen after that and just wait for weekly gold.

 

[NyVar]

im confused with the currency system 1000 coins to upgrade from copper to gold, sure.
but 10000 coins to upgrade w/e. is that supposed to be copper? in that case, why not just have 1 currency, or specify what kind of coin?
Also, it seems the castle upkeep is not correct. i gain money 2 weeks, and lose money 2 weeks also. and is not at all in line with the economics tab what am i missing?

 

[Azsouth]

I don't get where all this complaining is coming from, ya it's switched to a sandbox and most of the times those games are boring as hell, but we knew this was coming, the Dev warned us all, I just wish the time could tick by faster. The dev created a great story and I think he wants us to experience managing/stabilizing the kingdom while building our harem/focusing on a particular LI? I just hope once we do stabilize everything the micro-running of the country will be phased out for more VN type stuff, I personally won't mind if we are allowed to decide who to attack/conquer from now on and if there will be something like turn based battles, but mainly I'd prefer tons of story with all the girls between fights rather than staring at the screen waiting for time to tick by and money to accumulate. Just really hope in the future as well we can destroy the boyars and maybe assign loyal character some some castles/fiefs in our country (rather than just controlling the city) so they can add more to the army/country coffers.

 

[Deleted member 416612]

im confused with the currency system 1000 coins to upgrade from copper to gold, sure.
but 10000 coins to upgrade w/e. is that supposed to be copper? in that case, why not just have 1 currency, or specify what kind of coin?
Also, it seems the castle upkeep is not correct. i gain money 2 weeks, and lose money 2 weeks also. and is not at all in line with the economics tab what am i missing?

The currencies are bronze coins, silver coins, and gold coins. The logic is that when you have 1000 bronze coin, they will automatically change into 1 silver coin. When you have 1000 silver coins, those will automatically change into 1 gold coin. What you highlighted, may be an issue. I will check it out. Related to the costs, check if you have activated any edicts that require payment, or if you have units active.

 

[Deleted member 416612]

i really hate this game once it becomes management game. i can't seem to get anything to happen after that and just wait for weekly gold.

Have a bit of patience, as it is only in the alpha stage.

 

[Deleted member 416612]

where can i find the city expansion?

It is in the Societal section of edicts, the last one if you scroll down.

 

[NyVar]

The currencies are bronze coins, silver coins, and gold coins. The logic is that when you have 1000 bronze coin, they will automatically change into 1 silver coin. When you have 1000 silver coins, those will automatically change into 1 gold coin. What you highlighted, may be an issue. I will check it out. Related to the costs, check if you have activated any edicts that require payment, or if you have units active.

Thanks! Yeah, i understand that is how it works. I just need to get used to adding it up to gold
At one point i had 900gold coins with only 750 copper coins in estate tax. And at the start of the next week i had 450gold left.
I have no other edicts than "Ways of Life" and city expansion. May be something to look into

 

[Joey the mangaka]

Thanks! Yeah, i understand that is how it works. I just need to get used to adding it up to gold
At one point i had 900gold coins with only 750 copper coins in estate tax. And at the start of the next week i had 450gold left.
I have no other edicts than "Ways of Life" and city expansion. May be something to look into

You has opportunity for pillage monthly and recruit soldier -no used now

 

[Thumper27]

Sandbox with quest log is a better combination than ...... VN's where mc's hands and legs are restrained. Sandbox or not production need time

Ya' know , normally I don't feed the trolls no matter how hangry ..... but saying it over and over and over (and over) again doesn't make it true.

 

[Rory Smith]

Ya' know , normally I don't feed the trolls no matter how hangry ..... but saying it over and over and over (and over) again doesn't make it true.

Everyone crucifying sandbox. Their arguments too are not true then